With this logic Asham gets banned for life, and Neal get's a written apology.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAahahah

anyone who thinks a suspension wasn't due is retarded. Goaltenders are not trained to take hits from players. Yes, he was out of his crease, but that rule gets thrown right the (frank) out as soon as it happens to your keeper, so eat it. 2nd, he clearly lunges upwards towards Smith's head. At the point Smith got hit, he was as defenseless as they come. 3 games, may be a little harsh, but I'd have given him 2.
- snipesydangle

PLease defend the Weber hit. Tell me it wasn't worth at least3 to 4 games.Missed the first time and repeated $2,500.00 THat's B.S.

anyone who thinks a suspension wasn't due is retarded. Goaltenders are not trained to take hits from players. Yes, he was out of his crease, but that rule gets thrown right the (frank) out as soon as it happens to your keeper, so eat it. 2nd, he clearly goes after Smith's head. At the point Smith got hit, he was as defenseless as they come. 3 games, may be a little harsh, but I'd have given him 2.
- snipesydangle

I don't know that he clearly targeted the head. Yes he should be responsible for hitting the hit, but this isn't a Duncan Keith on Daniel Sedin where the player planned the move 10 seconds before. 1 game for me, that is if they go by the normal playoff games are worth twice as much.

anyone who thinks a suspension wasn't due is retarded. Goaltenders are not trained to take hits from players. Yes, he was out of his crease, but that rule gets thrown right the (frank) out as soon as it happens to your keeper, so eat it. 2nd, he clearly goes after Smith's head. At the point Smith got hit, he was as defenseless as they come. 3 games, may be a little harsh, but I'd have given him 2.
- snipesydangle

I don't have a problem with a suspension, but the league's measure of justice implies that this hit was worthy of triple the suspension Carkner got for basically assaulting another player on the ice, not to mention Shea Weber.

Edit: And I'll add I don't think he targeted the head, I think it was just a reckless play on Shaw's part.

Shaw's serving Weber's suspension and paying for Shanigan's goof. Simple as that.

anyone who thinks a suspension wasn't due is retarded. Goaltenders are not trained to take hits from players. Yes, he was out of his crease, but that rule gets thrown right the (frank) out as soon as it happens to your keeper, so eat it. 2nd, he clearly goes after Smith's head. At the point Smith got hit, he was as defenseless as they come. 3 games, may be a little harsh, but I'd have given him 2.
- snipesydangle

I agree with you, but Shannahan did this to himself by not suspending Lucic for hitting Miller and other non-suspensions. Now whatever he does everyone will freak the (frank) out.

anyone who thinks a suspension wasn't due is retarded. Goaltenders are not trained to take hits from players. Yes, he was out of his crease, but that rule gets thrown right the (frank) out as soon as it happens to your keeper, so eat it. 2nd, he clearly goes after Smith's head. At the point Smith got hit, he was as defenseless as they come. 3 games, may be a little harsh, but I'd have given him 2.
- snipesydangle

This is a cut and paste of a reply I made to someone on the Phoenix thread who made essentially the same argument as you...

When taken on it's own and out of the context of all of the other first round incidents and their subsequent punishments, your argument makes sense. When compared with the $2500 fine Weber received for an intentional, pre-meditated, WWE move that had clear, deliberate intent to injure...their is nothing fair about ths suspension

Refs will have their hands full tonight. Not with the Hawks, but the fans will be brutal.
- John Jaeckel

I hope it is. This subject needs to be brought forward.I as a Hawk Fan work hard to earn enough money to support my Team,and not to watch the league to use its power to better their profit margin on an investment.Enough is enough

wow 3 games, thought it would be one.

Shammyhan needs to resign!! This so-called deptartment of player safety just makes stuff up as it goes along. Different criteria and judgements depending on the player, team, playoffs or regular season.

Outrageous decision in light of the pathetic look the other way non calls this week.

The NHL is a farce. It has an incredible image and PR mess on its hands.

Nothing Shammy does or says from here on out has any credibility!!.

Weber gets a pass for his WWF slam of Zetterberg. The well known thug Carkner gets one game for committing a felony on Boyle!?!?!

Two Sharks get a pass from hits in gm 2. Franzen nothing for thrusting his stick like a spear into the Pred bench in Gm 3.

Ashem and Neal better get suspensions into next year if this is the new "standard"...well at least until next week!!

I agree with you, but Shannahan did this to himself by not suspending Lucic for hitting Miller and other non-suspensions. Now whatever he does everyone will freak the (frank) out.
- GSDIV

Yeah, the main thing is consistency, and Shanny has yet to really establish any. What's most strange to me is the fact that he takes into account whether he personally believes the player or not. To me that's not a good place to go when you're trying to establish any sort of standard.

Here's an idea: Smith should be showered with roses tonight. Like an Academy Award winning actress.
- John Jaeckel

I wonder who he would thank??

My guess the Madhouse on Madison becomes the Warhouse tonight!!

Yeah, the main thing is consistency, and Shanny has yet to really establish any. What's most strange to me is the fact that he takes into account whether he personally believes the player or not. To me that's not a good place to go when you're trying to establish any sort of standard.
- 13sundin13

The biggest problem I have is that instead of concrete, standardized penalties for discipline....there is a magical formula used which is used and the math gets fuzzier as the games mean more.
IMO, hits/plays can be broken down to their basic elements and apply a minimum standard for each type. Then add more games based on the unique attributes of each individual play. Get rid of the ridiculous notion that a non-repeat offender doesn't deserve a stiff penalty until he almost kills somoene the 2nd time.

Using Shannahan's logic, the Shaw hit on Smith (Smith Ok, stayed in the game, will play, incidental) is worse than Keith's hit (intent to injure, Sedin missed regular season, missed playoff). If those are the only two suspensions Shannahan handed out, it would be absurd. When taking into account every other fine/suspension/non-suspension, this in ludacris.

I'm taking away the fact this effects my team. He is not consistant and is acting upon his "wheel of discipline." It takes 12 hours to rule on Weber and look at no effects of Zetterberg, and takes 3 days to rule on others, I dont get it.

The league own the Yotes. Highly disturbed with the conflict of interest in this lopsided, ridiculous decision.

I am a Preds fan living in Chicago. I was watching the Hawks game when the hit on Smith happened. After several replays it looks like it was not intentional. Shaw had his head down and definitely didn't go out of his way to hit Smith. I understand protecting Goalies but I think that should be limited to in the crease. If they are playing the puck behind the net then they are just like any other player. I don't think Shaw should have received anything other than the penalty assessed.

Shaw's and Weber's incident are two different situations and should be looked at as such. Per Shanna-ban himself, each review is looked and suspensions are assessed independently. As for the fine assigned to Weber, it is the most that can be assigned per the CBA. Sounds a little ridiculous a NFL player can get $75K for a hit and the most in the NHL is $2500 but it is what it is.

I am a Preds fan living in Chicago. I was watching the Hawks game when the hit on Smith happened. After several replays it looks like it was not intentional. Shaw had his head down and definitely didn't go out of his way to hit Smith. I understand protecting Goalies but I think that should be limited to in the crease. If they are playing the puck behind the net then they are just like any other player. I don't think Shaw should have received anything other than the penalty assessed.

Shaw's and Weber's incident are two different situations and should be looked at as such. Per Shanna-ban himself, each review is looked and suspensions are assessed independently. As for the fine assigned to Weber, it is the most that can be assigned per the CBA. Sounds a little ridiculous a NFL player can get $75K for a hit and the most in the NHL is $2500 but it is what it is.
- johnsonch75

The issue with Weber was not amt of the fine! It's that he didn't get suspended. And what does "assessed independently" mean? I don't think the independence is the issue. The issue is the assessment criteria and how it is being applied!

PLease defend the Weber hit. Tell me it wasn't worth at least3 to 4 games.Missed the first time and repeated $2,500.00 THat's B.S.
- Puck13

The Weber fine was definitely bullpoop, and I would never defend it. Shanahan is a joke when it comes to consistency, I sincerely believe Campbell would be better at this point. Next time, the Wings and Zata will embellish a little concussion story since that's the reason it was only a fine.

Shannahan is a complete idiot. Everyone that has ever played with and against him, cant stand him. He is useless. The league is so messed up that they took a man who slept with his team mates wife (Craig Janney) and then married her. He is so lost in that job and in his life.. There is ZERO consistantcy in the manner things are being dealt with, Why should Weber who had INTENT, not get suspended???

The issue with Weber was not amt of the fine! It's that he didn't get suspended. And what does "assessed independently" mean? I don't think the independence is the issue. The issue is the assessment criteria and how it is being applied!
- bogiedoc

I've seen the fine amount thrown around several times. I was just trying to clarify it for others. I completely agree Shannahan is absolutely inconsistent when it comes to assessing punishments. My guess is that since the Weber incident was the first to happen in the playoffs, he didn't have anything to go off of. I also wonder if he didn't want to seem partial to the Red Wings. I don't really know what his excuses were for not suspending Weber. I was absolutely expecting one.

I read that Shannahan was looking at each incident independently and not relative to other incidents. So, each suspension was being reviewed independently and not that this person led with an elbow to the head so they get 1 game and then someone else started WW3 on the ice so it is a certain amount of games more.

HockeyBuzz Wire: Shaw gets 3 games for Smith hit
- hockeybuzz_wire

Rules need to change... Goalies cannot keep creating interference without repercussions.

Shammyhan needs to resign!! This so-called deptartment of player safety just makes stuff up as it goes along. Different criteria and judgements depending on the player, team, playoffs or regular season.

Outrageous decision in light of the pathetic look the other way non calls this week.

The NHL is a farce. It has an incredible image and PR mess on its hands.

Nothing Shammy does or says from here on out has any credibility!!.

Weber gets a pass for his WWF slam of Zetterberg. The well known thug Carkner gets one game for committing a felony on Boyle!?!?!

Two Sharks get a pass from hits in gm 2. Franzen nothing for thrusting his stick like a spear into the Pred bench in Gm 3. Agreed he needs to be fired or resign. He goes hard on Shaw but doesn't give superstars such as Keith and Weber near what they should have had. Bitz deserved what he got. But Weber and Keith had way dirtier plays and get basically less.

Ashem and Neal better get suspensions into next year if this is the new "standard"...well at least until next week!!
- bogiedoc

Shannahan is a complete idiot. Everyone that has ever played with and against him, cant stand him. He is useless. The league is so messed up that they took a man who slept with his team mates wife (Craig Janney) and then married her. He is so lost in that job and in his life.. There is ZERO consistantcy in the manner things are being dealt with, Why should Weber who had INTENT, not get suspended???
- Bambino68

Exactly. Superstars get away with murder. Keith and Weber both should have had very long suspensions. I have no problem with shaws, or bitz's but they did far less then the other 2

Exactly. Superstars get away with murder. Keith and Weber both should have had very long suspensions. I have no problem with shaws, or bitz's but they did far less then the other 2
- Bieksa#3

There was a tweet or post...can't remember which...that implied it was the GM's who have set the tone concerning stars and then everybody else when it comes to suspensions.

Given what we have seen...that makes a lot of sense.

Read my twitter feed from tonight, airjan23, it will give you a good sense as to my views on these utter garbage suspensions