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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:49 PM ET
OMG ... the lines at practice make sense

Danny... Hank.. Booth
Burrows... Kes... Raymond
Higgins Pahlsson Hansen
Kassian Lappy Manny

Id personally call up duco and another idiot to fill out the 4th line. But looks good!

- kneughter


How can they make sense with Raymond.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 4:51 PM ET
So what ever happened to Reinprecht?

He's another player management inteded on bringing in but couldnt get over the AV wall. He absolutely won't let a experienced veteran on his team.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 4:55 PM ET
OMG ... the lines at practice make sense

Danny... Hank.. Booth
Burrows... Kes... Raymond
Higgins Pahlsson Hansen
Kassian Lappy Manny

Id personally call up duco and another idiot to fill out the 4th line. But looks good!

- kneughter


AV is going to add Danny to the line up and immediately stick Booth who hasnt played with them on the top line. I have an idea...how about Burrows? I have a hunch he may play well with those two....

AV is a (frank)ing Franktard.


kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
How can they make sense with Raymond.
- Scooby_Doo


Wel as far as who plays where.. better than anything we've seen this playoffs
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
So what ever happened to Reinprecht?

He's another player management inteded on bringing in but couldnt get over the AV wall. He absolutely won't let a experienced veteran on his team.

- boonerbuck


Someone said he has to clear waivers... any pretty much is guaranteed to get picked up to (frank) us over.. cause he is a UFA after this year.
sabrebuzz8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.22.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Sabrebuzz8, that's actually brilliant! I wish I had thought of that when I submitted my rant. That's a great alternative. You penalize the team doing it by not making them change but at least you don't end up penalizing the team too much with a penalty when it's done by accident. That's a great solution! After all, the situation IS pretty much always the same as an icing. A team is being pressed in its own zone and they're trying to clear away the danger. Whether they ice it or shoot it in the crowd, it's pretty much the same thing so make it the same in terms of the rules.
- Rudo1806


Thank you! I think it's fair because the only reason players did it before was to get a line change/clear the puck out of their zone. A lot like icing before the rule change.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Daniel Back? Well Maybe
Daniel Back? Well Maybe

- IanEsplen

I'll leave the rest aside, but the current delay of game penalty should be handled just like icing - facoff in the defensive zone, no line change. That manages to penalize the intent of the stated infraction without going way overboard.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
Thank you! I think it's fair because the only reason players did it before was to get a line change/clear the puck out of their zone. A lot like icing before the rule change.
- sabrebuzz8

Lol, faster.

Needless to say, it's so obviously right they'll never do it.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
I'll leave the rest aside, but the current delay of game penalty should be handled just like icing - facoff in the defensive zone, no line change. That manages to penalize the intent of the stated infraction without going way overboard.
- nfph


NO... the puck rolls of your stick and over the glass.... you sit in the box... the punishment fits the crime.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Apr 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
So what ever happened to Reinprecht?

He's another player management inteded on bringing in but couldnt get over the AV wall. He absolutely won't let a experienced veteran on his team.

- boonerbuck


LA would claim him. He's a UFA and he's not owed any more money. Might as well let him make a run with the Wolves.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
NO... the puck rolls of your stick and over the glass.... you sit in the box... the punishment fits the crime.
- kneughter

Oh, um ok.

Sorry, I don't carry change.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
No player now intentionally throws a puck in the crowd as they KNOW it's an automatic penalty. Every time it happens, it's a case of a rolling puck when somebody tries to clear, somebody missing their attempts and it goes in the crowd instead of hitting the glass, etc
- Rubo1806


I think you just summed up exactly why this rule exists. Anyone that has been a fan since before the rule change knows that players sometimes (if not often) threw the puck out of play in order to get a whistle without icing the puck. As you say, "no player now intentionally throws a puck in the crowd as they KNOW it's an automatic penalty." The problem is that if you remove the automatic penalty part of it, players will start to intentionally do it again.

Every team (including both the Kings and Canucks) has been on the wrong side of this call, often times at game changing moments. However, the benefits of this rule outweigh the drawbacks, as I would rather see the occasional penalty for an inadvertent puck over the glass rather than frequent intentional pucks over the glass without penalty. Defending players need to take extra care to not throw the puck out of play. Aside from making the glass inside the zones several feet taller, I don't see any way to improve on this rule.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
Someone said he has to clear waivers... any pretty much is guaranteed to get picked up to (frank) us over.. cause he is a UFA after this year.
- kneughter


How? LA? If they want to dump a player in a lead 3-0 to keep us from using him then by all means. First both Gillis and Gillman said he was getting the call up when the playoffs started. Then he doesnt and they claim they are worried about him getting picked up. The math is easy.
sabrebuzz8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.22.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
Lol, faster.

Needless to say, it's so obviously right they'll never do it.

- nfph


West coast sabre fans think alike
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
So what ever happened to Reinprecht?

He's another player management inteded on bringing in but couldnt get over the AV wall. He absolutely won't let a experienced veteran on his team.

- boonerbuck


Reinprect has to clear re-entry waivers. The Canucks can make 4 call ups during the playoffs, and have used 1 on Bitz.

Any team that claimed Reinprect wouldn't be able to use him, as he had to be on the roster before the trade deadline. It would be strickly for a defensive move that a team would claim him.

The feeling would be he'd be good in round 2 or 3 when less teams may put in a claim, and the Canucks may have injuries.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
LA would claim him. He's a UFA and he's not owed any more money. Might as well let him make a run with the Wolves.
- hertzman


So what? ...and I doubt LA would claim him before Game 1 anyways...maybe now is too little too late but I cant beleive people are buying this excuse. The situation didnt change but the decision and reasoning did...

It just makes the trade that much more stupid. AV cant work with Cody, Kassian, Grags or Reinprecht...
yaknow88
Los Angeles Kings
Location: san francisco, CA
Joined: 01.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Daniel Back? Well Maybe
Daniel Back? Well Maybe

- IanEsplen


This series is NOT over. Still scared of Canucks, especially since I thought they dominated the first two periods on Sunday.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:06 PM ET
Oh, um ok.

Sorry, I don't carry change.

- nfph


It was sarcasm
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:07 PM ET
LA would claim him. He's a UFA and he's not owed any more money. Might as well let him make a run with the Wolves.
- hertzman


Yeah... at least they have a chance
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
Reinprect has to clear re-entry waivers. The Canucks can make 4 call ups during the playoffs, and have used 1 on Bitz.

Any team that claimed Reinprect wouldn't be able to use him, as he had to be on the roster before the trade deadline. It would be strickly for a defensive move that a team would claim him.

The feeling would be he'd be good in round 2 or 3 when less teams may put in a claim, and the Canucks may have injuries.

- Scooby_Doo


The teams in the east would have no interest since it's only blocking in the final. There is pretty much no reason for a team to make this move outside of LA.

We have three call ups left and we are facing elimination. That excuse is a hard sell for me...
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
It was sarcasm
- kneughter

Mine too!
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Apr 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
West coast sabre fans think alike
- sabrebuzz8

Must be the hops.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
How? LA? If they want to dump a player in a lead 3-0 to keep us from using him then by all means. First both Gillis and Gillman said he was getting the call up when the playoffs started. Then he doesnt and they claim they are worried about him getting picked up. The math is easy.
- boonerbuck


Reinprecht would actually help the Kings right now. Ever since Clifford got knocked out and since Richardson is recovering from appendicitis, we had to call up Andrei "Too Small" Loktionov to play wing (He's a center). Either that or throw Kevin "I can't fight worth crap" Westgarth back into the lineup.

I would claim Reinprecht in a second. It would immediately make our 3rd line better.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 17 @ 5:13 PM ET
Reinprecht would actually help the Kings right now. Ever since Clifford got knocked out and since Richardson is recovering from appendicitis, we had to call up Andrei "Too Small" Loktionov to play wing (He's a center). Either that or throw Kevin "I can't fight worth crap" Westgarth back into the lineup.

I would claim Reinprecht in a second. It would immediately make our 3rd line better.

- tkecanuck341


He can't play for you... thats the catch... the team who claims him can't use him until the following year. Some stupid rule.

So teams would do it just to (frank) with the canucks... not help them.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 17 @ 5:24 PM ET
Reinprecht would actually help the Kings right now. Ever since Clifford got knocked out and since Richardson is recovering from appendicitis, we had to call up Andrei "Too Small" Loktionov to play wing (He's a center). Either that or throw Kevin "I can't fight worth crap" Westgarth back into the lineup.

I would claim Reinprecht in a second. It would immediately make our 3rd line better.

- tkecanuck341


He wouldnt be eligible to play for you and he's a pending UFA.

Gillis has nothing to lose in this regard. LA gains by blocking and thats it. It doesnt come back to bite us in any way.
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