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ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:44 PM ET
I'd say 10 for Torres. He's worse and hossa is totally franked up
- FlyersFirst



I don't understand why a player being injured carrys any weight in the decision.

I know that is how it is done, but I don't understand. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.

It just creates more gray area, more confusion.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 17 @ 10:45 PM ET
I don't understand why a player being injured carrys any weight in the decision.

I know that is how it is done, but I don't understand. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.

It just creates more gray area, more confusion.

- ggunky

Keep preaching bro
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

Apr 17 @ 10:45 PM ET
http://www.nhlwheelofjustice.com/
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:46 PM ET
Torres will get a far more significant penalty. Hossa is hurt, and Torres' history is far more violent than Neal's.
- Jsaquella



I stated that earlier, that 40 games would make sense for Torres.

The History thing should weight heavily in any decision.

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:46 PM ET
I don't understand why a player being injured carrys any weight in the decision.

I know that is how it is done, but I don't understand. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.

It just creates more gray area, more confusion.

- ggunky

It shouldn't. The league is absolutely dropping the ball using the *resulted in an injury on the play* rule as a factor at all. Nix the godamn grey already.

Black.

White.

Period.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:46 PM ET
Obviously if Couturier or Giroux develop concussion symptoms, the Neal suspension gets amended.
- PLindbergh31

I'm okay with just 1 game on Neal. It should only take 1 game to beat the Pens, especially wit the loss of Neal. He was both there best and worst player for the Pens on Sunday.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
Keep preaching bro
- Giroux_Is_God



I like simplicity, black and white.

And repeat offenders need to suffer a greater penalty.

eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:48 PM ET
I like simplicity, black and white.

And repeat offenders need to suffer a greater penalty.

- ggunky


He needs to be Downied or Cooked
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:48 PM ET
So when Rinaldo says he tried to move his elbow out of the way from Crosby's head its acceptable. Got it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
don't think anyone is arguing what was expected, but what should have happened. Wonder if the ruling would be different tomorrow after Torres hit, more pressure for a longer suspension.
- ukeman


I don't think much more should have happened. Neal could have gotten two games, maybe three. I can't get overly pissed at what should be.

Just end their season tomorrow, and they will be suspended for the rest of the year
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
He needs to be Downied or Cooked
- eayost



No doubt.

40 games should be the starting point.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
I stated that earlier, that 40 games would make sense for Torres.

The History thing should weight heavily in any decision.

- ggunky



I think In light of the Shaw and Asham calls, Torres gets 6 games.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:50 PM ET
I stated that earlier, that 40 games would make sense for Torres.

The History thing should weight heavily in any decision.

- ggunky


The NHL is going to go Matt Cooke on Torres. They will bury him with a 15-20 game suspension, and tell him the next time will be a year.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:50 PM ET
How can any human being, let alone a hockey legend, face the world and blandly declare that this was a collision? Neal makes a beeline for Couturier, has his eyes fixed straight on him, Couts is not looking in that direction, and Neal jumps. Is he just incompetent or too busy to really view it or does he lack self-respect?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:51 PM ET
Obviously if Couturier or Giroux develop concussion symptoms, the Neal suspension gets amended.
- PLindbergh31


no it doesn't they said so after the alfredsson conky
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:51 PM ET
I don't understand why a player being injured carrys any weight in the decision.

I know that is how it is done, but I don't understand. An illegal hit is an illegal hit.

It just creates more gray area, more confusion.

- ggunky


I agree. If I launch myself at a guy's head, and miss, is that better than the guy who makes contact?

FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Apr 17 @ 10:51 PM ET
I don't think much more should have happened. Neal could have gotten two games, maybe three. I can't get overly pissed at what should be.

Just end their season tomorrow, and they will be suspended for the rest of the year

- Jsaquella


That is definitive word. Agreed
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:51 PM ET
The NHL is going to go Matt Cooke on Torres. They will bury him with a 15-20 game suspension, and tell him the next time will be a year.
- Jsaquella



That is my hope.

This garbage needs to stop.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:52 PM ET
good lord.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Apr 17 @ 10:52 PM ET
I agree. If I launch myself at a guy's head, and miss, is that better than the guy who makes contact?
- Jsaquella


Hard to compares apples to coulda shoulda wouldas
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:53 PM ET
so basically he got a game for the roo hit and nothing for the couts hit? okkkkkkkk
- flyfan1212


Yup. That's how it is and that's f'n lame.

Obviously intent has little to do with decisions, it's the effect. But you know what, it's a little late for the player that gets hurt. Ask Hossa.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:53 PM ET
No doubt.

40 games should be the starting point.

- ggunky


There is no rhyme or reason to any of these suspensions. Basically Shanahan is using injury as a way to measure the severity of the suspension.

Weber rammed Zetterberg's head into the glass and gets fined $2500, what happens if another player does the same thing and paralyzes a player from the neck down? What does Shanahan do? A $2500 fine is supposed to deter a player from doing what Weber did? Give me a break. That's cab fare for these guys.

It's all a joke, and the NHL is a farce when it comes to discipline.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:54 PM ET
That is my hope.

This garbage needs to stop.

- ggunky


The Torres his was exactly the same as the Neal hit on Coots. Only the results differ.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:55 PM ET
There is no rhyme or reason to any of these suspensions. Basically Shanahan is using injury as a way to measure the severity of the suspension.

Weber rammed Zetterberg's head into the glass and gets fined $2500, what happens if another player does the same thing and paralyzes a player from the neck down? What does Shanahan do?

It's all a joke, and the NHL is a farce when it comes to discipline.

- PLindbergh31


Your boy Milbury saying Neal should of been banged with more. The Couturier hit was worse and he walks free from it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:55 PM ET
Hard to compares apples to coulda shoulda wouldas
- FlyersFirst


Not really. I'm pretty sure that Neal was going for Couturier's head. Couts being hurt or not should have zero impact on punishment doled out to Neal.
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