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ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
You want to call Mario a hypocrite, that's your prerogative. Suspensions and fine are forthcoming, and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something from him after that. I'm fine either way. Bashing the Penguins is the fashionable thing to do these day, so I'm sure no matter what he says (if he says anything) he's going to get lit up by the haters....and hey, its not like you have anything lse to do in Toronto right now, right?
- Emperor Filonius



don't forget Schlong Island as well
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:35 PM ET

Don't think for a second that your team...because it's YOUR team...is above anything you have seen in the last few days.

- icedog97


I recall that after Downie attempted to launch McCammonds head into the bleachers, Randy Jones ending Bergerons season with a hit from behind and Hartnell giving Andy Alberts a concussion within a few weeks that the league sat down with Paul Holmgren and basically told him to tell his players to smarten up.

But the Flyers are never dirty.
jtb3rd
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 02.08.2008

Apr 16 @ 12:35 PM ET
Hey Emp. I aplaud your frank post, and agree with most of it. The whole thing with Lemieux is he went on a rant about how this stuff is ruining the game, and it makes him want to leave, but then his team is one of the worst offenders. That is why he should address it. As for the Flyers history... there is nothing to apologize for. We admitted and embraced what we were. And we didn't complain when teams did to us the same thing we did to them. We are upset now, because that is not part of our game now and to say "well you did it in the past" does not excuse it being done to us now. Its a different game now.
- RooNosHockey

The same fans using the "that's the way the Flyers played in the past" so they deserve it are the same group trying to get a pass for Matt Cooke all of sudden because this one year he has been fairly clean. I love the hypocrisy!
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:36 PM ET
Alright, well you boys have fun. I'm off to DC.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:37 PM ET
He is actually for incidents that occurred while he was on Dallas that are still in the 18 month window. CBJ his comes to mind.
- ZHARRISON4


November 19th of 2009 does not fall w/in the 18 month window. That was the date of the Dorett incident.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
don't forget Schlong Island as well
- ryman1566


Hey now Scholng Island come on now..Wait... I actually like that name. Good form
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
At the time of the quote, Cooke was the worst offender of the year. He was a saint this season, you guys moved onto something worse... the diving and head snappes that make it even more difficult for the refs to police the games.... and then yesterday...
- RooNosHockey


But he and the team spoke out against Cooke. Marios letter was following a brawl game where the Islanders insitgated a series of incidents. Not a single headshot. So I ask again, how are the Penguins the worst offenders when it comes to instigating brawls.

All teams have divers and head snappers. I watched Dan Carcillo when he was playing for the Flyers take a Kovalchuck stick in the chest and snap his head back like he'd been punched.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
don't forget Schlong Island as well
- ryman1566


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ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
I recall that after Downie attempted to launch McCammonds head into the bleachers, Randy Jones ending Bergerons season with a hit from behind and Hartnell giving Andy Alberts a concussion within a few weeks that the league sat down with Paul Holmgren and basically told him to tell his players to smarten up.

But only the Pens are dirty.

- Ben37

ZHARRISON4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Prospect Park, PA
Joined: 02.02.2009

Apr 16 @ 12:39 PM ET
November 19th of 2009 does not fall w/in the 18 month window. That was the date of the Dorett incident.
- Gunner Staal


Ahh apologies. Do you think the high sticking fine from earlier this season would fall under this?

And if they use the Purcha hit (I know he did not get disciplined) he shows a history of head contact.

It's a shame big year for Neal and its a shame what happened yesterday since he is usually a pretty straight up player.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:39 PM ET
The same fans using the "that's the way the Flyers played in the past" so they deserve it are the same group trying to get a pass for Matt Cooke all of sudden because this one year he has been fairly clean. I love the hypocrisy!
- jtb3rd


Most of us were against Cookes actions, a large group of us wanted him gone. The problem with that is that he can still score 15 goals and another team would have picked him up.
broadstreet11
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.24.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:39 PM ET
Kid dropped his pen in class. I pulled a Crosby and kicked it away when he went to pick it up. I don't like the kids in my class...
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
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- kasperrko



Not all of the fans, just the ones who feel like trolling into something that doesn't involve them or their team.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Kid dropped his pen in class. I pulled a Crosby and kicked it away when he went to pick it up. I don't like the kids in my class...
- broadstreet11


So does that make you classy or a dirty whiner?
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Kid dropped his pen in class. I pulled a Crosby and kicked it away when he went to pick it up. I don't like the kids in my class...
- broadstreet11



So did it start a food fight at lunch?
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Hey Emp. I aplaud your frank post, and agree with most of it. The whole thing with Lemieux is he went on a rant about how this stuff is ruining the game, and it makes him want to leave, but then his team is one of the worst offenders. That is why he should address it. As for the Flyers history... there is nothing to apologize for. We admitted and embraced what we were. And we didn't complain when teams did to us the same thing we did to them. We are upset now, because that is not part of our game now and to say "well you did it in the past" does not excuse it being done to us now. Its a different game now.
- RooNosHockey


I hear you, but like I said, I'm not excusing the fact that the Pens did what they did. Most Pens fans here are in complete agreement...that's the difference between the fanbases...you embraced it, we don't. Its not what the Penguins have been about for their 45 year history. We've entered a bizzaro world where for at least this series, the roles have reversed.

All I'm saying is that I'm not really in the mood to feel sorry for the Flyers, because like it or not you were the embodiment of what went on yesterday since 1967. Its easy to take the high moral round when you are winning, but lets see how they behave in a series when they get behind, before we declare this new generation of Flyers to be saints and angels.
jimlahey18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.27.2008

Apr 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
The Pittsburgh Penguins will be busy with Brendan Shanahan on Tuesday as forwards James Neal and Arron Asham have hearings booked with the NHL disciplinarian for incidents stemming from their game against the Philadelphia Flyers on Sunday.

Neal will have two separate hearings - one for his third period hit on Flyers rookie Sean Couturier and the other for a hit to the head on Flyers forward Claude Giroux. Neal was given a charging penalty for the latter hit, which saw four players - including Neal - receive 10-minute misconduct penalties.

per tsn
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Apr 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
Kid dropped his pen in class. I pulled a Crosby and kicked it away when he went to pick it up. I don't like the kids in my class...
- broadstreet11


That's actually funny...

I have a hard time understanding how that glove incident is such a big deal.

I realize it's Crosby...but to me...isn't complaining about THAT...really worse than what Crosby complains about...or at least EQUALLY as bad?
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
You want to call Mario a hypocrite, that's your prerogative. Suspensions and fine are forthcoming, and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something from him after that. I'm fine either way. Bashing the Penguins is the fashionable thing to do these day, so I'm sure no matter what he says (if he says anything) he's going to get lit up by the haters....and hey, its not like you have anything lse to do in Toronto right now, right?
- Emperor Filonius


what he needs to say is simple. something along the lines of "in light of comments i made last year, im disappointed in my teams actions yesterday blah blah blah, we will deal with the offenders internally blah blah blah, the penguins do not condone or accept what we saw on the ice yesterday."
TheRat14
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: US of A
Joined: 04.09.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
So does that make you classy or a dirty whiner?
- Ben37


It probably makes him 13 which is abut the emotional age of Crosby when things aren't going his way.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
Not all of the fans, just the ones who feel like trolling into something that doesn't involve them or their team.
- ryman1566


I got ya buddy my brother trolls on here all the time so I will tell him to tone it down. I enjoy the Penguins but I still feel deeply that Bylsma I know it is the playoffs but I would be tempted to sit Crosby. This team did so well without him. I know it sounds dumb but it might wake up this team. I beleive if the Pens get one win that they can still wint his series
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
The refs really failed when they made Neal skate across the ice to the penalty box, igniting everything up again, instead of just giving him a 10 minute misconduct and removing him from the game
- ryman1566


The refs really did let things go waaayyyyy too far. Even with Crosby, everyone watching could see that he came unglued. Start giving 10's out with every stupid aggressive penalty, and if they do something stupid when they come back out, it's a game.
ikyan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kingston, ON
Joined: 01.19.2012

Apr 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
If I'm Lemieux I'm pretty embarrased right now (particularly with some of the comments he made after that Islanders debacle last year), and probably need to drop in on a team meeting or practice and tell them to get their heads on strait.
- whatthef


Was reading this rather logical post, but please Mario, don't start a gangbang involving Brian Strait.
broadstreet11
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.24.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
That's actually funny...

I have a hard time understanding how that glove incident is such a big deal.

I realize it's Crosby...but to me...isn't complaining about THAT...really worse than what Crosby complains about...or at least EQUALLY as bad?

- icedog97

It's only getting air time because it is Crosby ...garbage like that happens in every game
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:45 PM ET
It probably makes him 13 which is abut the emotional age of Crosby when things aren't going his way.
- TheRat14


So I guess your ban must be over...
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