Bylsma and other national media members don't work for Root Sports
- ryman1566

No, but Bylsma works for the Pens. My god, Ron Wilson pimped Phaneuf for the Norris trophy earlier.

btw, I would love for Fleury and the Pens to turn around- just not holding my breath

No, but Bylsma works for the Pens. My god, Ron Wilson pimped Phaneuf for the Norris trophy earlier.

btw, I would love for Fleury and the Pens to turn around- just not holding my breath
- Tiogadog

This team peaked about one month too soon, the situations with Lavi and Torts planted the seeds for a meltdown from all of the frustration, and a series versus their most hated rival has made for the perfect icing on a crap cake.

Didn't the Flyers lead the league in power play opportunities?? This would be the wrong time to complain about the refs, man

Edit: 2009-10 14.6 minutes per game. 5th MOST in league.
2010-11 16.9 minutes per game. 2nd MOST per game in league.
10.8 this year (not as much)

But keep trying.
- ryman1566

well lets look at this since Crosby coming into the league

05-06
pens - pk 533 - compared to 495 powerplays - 11 most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 465 compared to 444 powerplays - 25th most pp in NHL

06-07
pens - pk 419 times compared to 463 powerplays - most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 420 times compared to 376 powerplays - 23rd most pp in NHL

07-08
penguins - pk 357 times compared to 378 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 388 times compared to 385 powerplays - 3rd most pp in NHL

08-09
pens - pk 347 times compared to 360 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 393 times compared to 316 powerplays - 26th most pp in NHL

09-10
pens - pk 327 times compared to 326 powerplays - 3rd most in NHL
flyers - pk 335 times compared to 317 powerplays - 6th most pp in NHL

10-11
pens - pk 324 times compared to 311 powerplays - 5th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 313 times compared to 295 powerplays - 12th most pp in NHL

11-12
pens - pk 270 times compared to 289 powerplays - 6th most in NHL
flyers - pk 319 times compared to 335 powerplays - 1st in NHL

stats dont lie, take notice to the numbers when Crosby is healthy


but keep trying

well lets look at this since Crosby coming into the league

05-06
pens - pk 533 - compared to 495 powerplays - 11 most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 465 compared to 444 powerplays - 25th most pp in NHL

06-07
pens - pk 419 times compared to 463 powerplays - most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 420 times compared to 376 powerplays - 23rd most pp in NHL

07-08
penguins - pk 357 times compared to 378 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 388 times compared to 385 powerplays - 3rd most pp in NHL

08-09
pens - pk 347 times compared to 360 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 393 times compared to 316 powerplays - 26th most pp in NHL

09-10
pens - pk 327 times compared to 326 powerplays - 3rd most in NHL
flyers - pk 335 times compared to 317 powerplays - 6th most pp in NHL

10-11
pens - pk 324 times compared to 311 powerplays - 5th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 313 times compared to 295 powerplays - 12th most pp in NHL

11-12
pens - pk 270 times compared to 289 powerplays - 6th most in NHL
flyers - pk 319 times compared to 335 powerplays - 1st in NHL

stats dont lie, take notice to the numbers when Crosby is healthy


but keep trying
- jimlahey18

So you are trying to say that we are a cleaner team than you and that this is an out of ordinary series of events. Thank you very much.

This team peaked about one month too soon, the situations with Lavi and Torts planted the seeds for a meltdown from all of the frustration, and a series versus their most hated rival has made for the perfect icing on a crap cake.
- ryman1566

would agree except I don't like giving Torts credit for anything--

well lets look at this since Crosby coming into the league



stats dont lie, take notice to the numbers when Crosby is healthy


but keep trying
- jimlahey18

It would follow the logic that better players put defending players in bad spots, thus leading to penalties. Nobody is hooking down Steve MacIntyre to save a scoring chance.

well lets look at this since Crosby coming into the league

05-06
pens - pk 533 - compared to 495 powerplays - 11 most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 465 compared to 444 powerplays - 25th most pp in NHL

06-07
pens - pk 419 times compared to 463 powerplays - most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 420 times compared to 376 powerplays - 23rd most pp in NHL

07-08
penguins - pk 357 times compared to 378 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 388 times compared to 385 powerplays - 3rd most pp in NHL

08-09
pens - pk 347 times compared to 360 powerplays - 4th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 393 times compared to 316 powerplays - 26th most pp in NHL

09-10
pens - pk 327 times compared to 326 powerplays - 3rd most in NHL
flyers - pk 335 times compared to 317 powerplays - 6th most pp in NHL

10-11
pens - pk 324 times compared to 311 powerplays - 5th most pp in NHL
flyers - pk 313 times compared to 295 powerplays - 12th most pp in NHL

11-12
pens - pk 270 times compared to 289 powerplays - 6th most in NHL
flyers - pk 319 times compared to 335 powerplays - 1st in NHL

stats dont lie, take notice to the numbers when Crosby is healthy


but keep trying
- jimlahey18

According to those numbers they have had 2622 power plays and been shorthanded 2577 time. So a difference of 45 powerplays is a HUGE conspiracy over a 7 year span. Take into account fighting majors, abbriviated powerplays, and offsetting, and that looks worse.

YOU ARE UP 3 GAMES TO 0. WTF IS THE PROBLEM HERE?

According to those numbers they have had 2622 power plays and been shorthanded 2577 time. So a difference of 45 powerplays is a HUGE conspiracy over a 7 year span. Take into account fighting majors, abbriviated powerplays, and offsetting, and that looks worse.

YOU ARE UP 3 GAMES TO 0. WTF IS THE PROBLEM HERE?
- ryman1566

No just to show that the Pneguins year after year hover around the top 5 in powerplays since crosby coming into the league.

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- Gunner Staal

This kind of stuff targets the "rubbernecker" in us all. It's bringing attention to the sport for the wrong reason, though, IMO.

According to those numbers they have had 2622 power plays and been shorthanded 2577 time. So a difference of 45 powerplays is a HUGE conspiracy over a 7 year span. Take into account fighting majors, abbriviated powerplays, and offsetting, and that looks worse.

YOU ARE UP 3 GAMES TO 0. WTF IS THE PROBLEM HERE?
- ryman1566

Those 6 extra power plays per season really show how over the top the league has been with helping the Pens. Wow... I'm glad he spelled it out with such compelling statistics.

No just to show that the Pneguins year after year hover around the top 5 in powerplays since crosby coming into the league.
- jimlahey18

A puck possesion game with elite skilled players will do that for you. Just like a running game controls the clock/posession in football. Pretty easy to figure out

This team peaked about one month too soon, the situations with Lavi and Torts planted the seeds for a meltdown from all of the frustration, and a series versus their most hated rival has made for the perfect icing on a crap cake.
- ryman1566

Curious -- of course nobody can know the answer, but how do you guys think this series might have played out had Crosby not come back ? I thought the Pens were a solid favorite to come out of the East without Crosby (of course I thought his return elevated them to prohibitive favorite, so what do I know ?). The defense didn't seem as leaky prior to Crosby's return, but perhaps it was and I didn't take note of it.

If this guy had a clue, he would realized that when you play with the puck most the game, you tend to draw powerplays...

Curious -- of course nobody can know the answer, but how do you guys think this series might have played out had Crosby not come back ? I thought the Pens were a solid favorite to come out of the East without Crosby (of course I thought his return elevated them to prohibitive favorite, so what do I know ?). The defense didn't seem as leaky prior to Crosby's return, but perhaps it was and I didn't take note of it.
- MadCap2008

If adding the best player in the league is a determent to success, then there are quite a lot of problems the Pens need to sort out.

Curious -- of course nobody can know the answer, but how do you guys think this series might have played out had Crosby not come back ? I thought the Pens were a solid favorite to come out of the East without Crosby (of course I thought his return elevated them to prohibitive favorite, so what do I know ?). The defense didn't seem as leaky prior to Crosby's return, but perhaps it was and I didn't take note of it.
- MadCap2008

Oh, it was, but MAF was bailing them out big time. The 8-2 rout of TB when Malkin went for a hatty was a perfect example. TB got at LEAST 7 odd man breaks, and were stoned. All anyone wanted to talk about was Malkin, failing to see the glaring wart.

It could always be worse. While channel surfing and eating lunch, I noticed the WNBA Draft on ESPN 2.

Or...you could get outed by a friend after you enter that Nickelback ticket promo with Root Sports...

It could always be worse. While channel surfing and eating lunch, I noticed the WNBA Draft on ESPN 2.

Or...you could get outed by a friend after you enter that Nickelback ticket promo with Root Sports...
- akane13

Heyyyyyy, hey, gonna be a rockstar

/runs

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I'll take the opinon of a man who played the game, and coached to a Cup and a Jack Adams over stressed out yinzers.

I apologize but sometimes cancer takes precedence over hockey.
- the-mitch-wilsons

Sorry to hear that, John. As a survivor myself, I wish whomever is afflicted the best.

If this guy had a clue, he would realized that when you play with the puck most the game, you tend to draw powerplays...
- ikyan

ya i would be in denial too if i were in your position, league wide conspiracy theory with penguins wasnt made up here first

ya i would be in denial too if i were in your position, league wide conspiracy theory with penguins wasnt made up here first
- jimlahey18

Probably also was made up by someone with half a brain, and a fan of a rival team, just to be fair.

ya i would be in denial too if i were in your position, league wide conspiracy theory with penguins wasnt made up here first
- jimlahey18

No, but it is still just that a, "conspiracy theory"

Welcome to the world of Roswell, JFK, MLK, illuminati, Arizonia moon landings (though I am inclined to at least entertain that one) TWA Flight 800- enjoy your tin foil hat

Curious -- of course nobody can know the answer, but how do you guys think this series might have played out had Crosby not come back ? I thought the Pens were a solid favorite to come out of the East without Crosby (of course I thought his return elevated them to prohibitive favorite, so what do I know ?). The defense didn't seem as leaky prior to Crosby's return, but perhaps it was and I didn't take note of it.
- MadCap2008

I wondered this too. I am not sure if we can blame him specifically. However, it was shortly after his return that the down slide on the team occurred. Did his return disturb team chemistry in some way? Not that I am privy to knowing. Did it create false expectations? Perhaps. Just not sure what caused the meltdown that is Flyeresque(old Flyers). Maybe the Talbot revealing of our team stratagies? I don't know.

Instead of Groundhog Day it was more like Reversal of Fortune. With the teams reversing roles.

I wondered this too. I am not sure if we can blame him specically. However, it was shortly after his return that the down slide on the team occurred. Did his return disturb team chemistry in some way? Not that I am privy to knowing. Did it create false expectations? Perhaps. Just not sure what caused the meltdown that is Flyeresque(old Flyers). Maybe the Talbot revealing of our team stratagies? I don't know.

Instead of Groundhog Day it was more like Reversal of Fortune. With the teams reversing roles.
- powerhouse

Been thinking that since the game we blew the 2-0 lead and Hartnell won in OT in Philly

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I'll take the opinon of a man who played the game, and coached to a Cup and a Jack Adams over stressed out yinzers.
- ryman1566

Any Pens news? Best trick ever let your rivals go up 3-0 in a series and then take the next 4 and watch the town burn. It's going to be great. Fantastic idea Pens. I love it