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Nerko77
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.15.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:50 AM ET
That's why you file for arbitration and a team can't do that. And why would an Arbitrator give Schneider more money then Quick or Howard?
- IanEsplen


Is Schneider aribitration eligible? If so, than I agree.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:51 AM ET
Like when Hawks fans thought the Mitchell hit on Toews was dirty.
- hankthetank


Never said it was dirty - I 100% said Mitchell hit him with intent to hurt him. I think Brown knew exactly what he was trying to do and did it legally.
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
Browns play was clean, the real suspendable play should of been Richards tossing Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqcMFu6bpg

And

Mitchell violently attack Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Io_w3bujDI
Blackhawks4life
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.09.2012

Apr 16 @ 11:54 AM ET
The Canucks have to be one of the mentally weakest teams in sports. It starts from their back end right to the coaching. They lose thier best player and suddenly they can't score. Will say its not the goalies fault so much this season, but they always find a way to fall apart. That's the reason they will never win a cup. Great teams find a way to rise above. Not dive all over the place.
Climuster
Joined: 08.06.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
With the Blues and the Kings actually. 45 years I think. Canucks are ONLY at a mere 43 (and counting)!!!
- hankthetank


Who really cares!

45 years..., 43 years...,

Any championship drought past 40 years is unacceptable in ANY town.

And this is coming from a Leafs fan.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Schneider is off the table. Terrible deal by the way. If were trading Schneider I want Connolly and your 10th
- Boinker


I have a hard time believing Schneider will ever be "off the table". You guys are stuck with Luongo, which is not a bad thing considering he is still one of the better goalies around. The best thing you can do with Schneider is play him to maximize his value and take advantage. This is exactly why these mega-long-term deals are such a mistake.

I'm willing to bet teams like T.O., Tampa, or Philly will offer sheet him the first chance they get. Compensation would be a 1st and a 3rd for contracts from 3.1-4.7 mill. I'd give him 4-4.5 million for 2-3 years and risk giving up those assets.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
Browns play was clean, the real suspendable play should of been Richards tossing Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqcMFu6bpg

And

Mitchell violently attack Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Io_w3bujDI

- yea-ok-buddy


WHAT?!?! Canucks diving?!?! You're such a perceptive viewer of hockey. You should be a scout.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
The Canucks have to be one of the mentally weakest teams in sports. It starts from their back end right to the coaching. They lose thier best player and suddenly they can't score. Will say its not the goalies fault so much this season, but they always find a way to fall apart. That's the reason they will never win a cup. Great teams find a way to rise above. Not dive all over the place.
- Blackhawks4life

DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
When he signs offers sheets for significantly higher than that, it doesn't matter if he's RFA. Also, it would be hard for an arbitrator to say his market value is 2.5MM when the market has offered him higher.

Obviously, its not over, but do you Canucks fans think AV is THE problem, or do changes need to be made to the Canucks core? The Canucks are lacking a leader IMO. Kesler could be the guy, but this year he's been anything but a leader.

- coldsteelonice


AV is the biggest problem. He's the one who wants our leaders to be his yes men (put the C on Luongo, put the C on Henrik). That's why we lack leadership.

Henrik is a great guy, but he's not a leader. He's delusional as (frank). He smiles in handshake row when we lose a series.

After last night's game, he didn't challenge his teammates to prove themselves in game 4, he spouted unrealistic BS about how we showed what kind of team we were last night... Yeah, we sure did Henrik.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
How's the mood in here on this fine Monday morning?
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
WHAT?!?! Canucks diving?!?! You're such a perceptive viewer of hockey. You should be a scout.
- hankthetank


What those aren't dives, Kesler shouldn't be treated like that on the ice.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Apr 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
Is Schneider aribitration eligible? If so, than I agree.
- Nerko77

Pretty sure all RFA's that are over 22-23ish are.

I just can't see how Schneider would stand a chance in arbitration.

" Mr. arbitrator, we have offered our back up goalie more money then 2 of the 3 Vezina finalists and he said no. Can you please decide how to rule on this?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
How's the mood in here on this fine Monday morning?
- whipper334

p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
Browns play was clean, the real suspendable play should of been Richards tossing Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqcMFu6bpg

And

Mitchell violently attack Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Io_w3bujDI

- yea-ok-buddy


We need a gif of Doughty's reaction to Kesler at 0:26 of the first clip
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:58 AM ET
How's the mood in here on this fine Monday morning?
- whipper334


I just went for a brisk morning walk around the block. I think I speak for everyone when I say, we're in great spirits this morning!
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:00 PM ET
Where's Micah? Don't get me wrong, I love seeing Leafs, Kings and Hawks fans that are as committed to the Canucks as actual Canucks fans, just wondering where he is.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
I just went for a brisk morning walk around the block. I think I speak for everyone when I say, we're in great spirits this morning!
- hankthetank

hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:01 PM ET

- whipper334


By the way, got accepted into a program at the U of C. Guess who's coming to Cow Town!!!!
coldsteelonice
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.03.2011

Apr 16 @ 12:01 PM ET
Pretty sure all RFA's that are over 22-23ish are.

I just can't see how Schneider would stand a chance in arbitration.

" Mr. arbitrator, we have offered our back up goalie more money then 2 of the 3 Vezina finalists and he said no. Can you please decide how to rule on this?

- IanEsplen


When did Howard and Quick receive those contracts. It's based on what Howard and Quick had done prior to receiving those contracts, not what they've done now.

I also don't know everything in the CBA, but I thought even if you are arbitration eligible, you could still potentially sign an offer sheet? Even if you go to arbitration, that offer sheet would factor into the arbitrators decision since its by far the best indicator of what a player is worth in the market.
baurod73
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Good to see the trolls out in full force this morning!
yea-ok-buddy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Schenn, Gardnier, and 5th over, ON
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Where's Micah? Don't get me wrong, I love seeing Leafs, Kings and Hawks fans that are as committed to the Canucks as actual Canucks fans, just wondering where he is.
- hankthetank


Oh (frank) you should see the leaf threads, half of them are Nuck fans trolling the Leafs
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 16 @ 12:02 PM ET
Pretty sure all RFA's that are over 22-23ish are.

I just can't see how Schneider would stand a chance in arbitration.

" Mr. arbitrator, we have offered our back up goalie more money then 2 of the 3 Vezina finalists and he said no. Can you please decide how to rule on this?

- IanEsplen


This sounds similar to Chicago and Niemi a couple of years back. The trouble with arbitration is that it might come to a figure that Gillis can't afford to hand out, and then he has to walk away from Schnieder without any compansation.

If I'm Gillis, I don't want to be in that trick box.

Schnieder will fetch a good return in a trade. Gillis still has Eddie Lack down on the farm, and he's a good goaltender.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
Good to see the trolls out in full force this morning!
- baurod73


They've made some astonishing new discoveries. Get this: Canucks have players that dive!
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
Browns play was clean, the real suspendable play should of been Richards tossing Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqcMFu6bpg

And

Mitchell violently attack Kesler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Io_w3bujDI

- yea-ok-buddy


(frank) those are bad, how can Vancouver fans stand that?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
AV is the biggest problem. He's the one who wants our leaders to be his yes men (put the C on Luongo, put the C on Henrik). That's why we lack leadership.

Henrik is a great guy, but he's not a leader. He's delusional as (frank). He smiles in handshake row when we lose a series.

After last night's game, he didn't challenge his teammates to prove themselves in game 4, he spouted unrealistic BS about how we showed what kind of team we were last night... Yeah, we sure did Henrik.

- DrChristianTroy



I don't see the Canucks play enough to get a sense of what kind of leader he is, I wouldn't put that much stock on the fact that he tried to stay positive when talking to the press. Real issue is what he said in he room and what support he got from the other leaders on the team -- I would guess that the second point is the bigger problem.
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