I agree with most that the hit was clean but it was borderline charging. It can go either way with the refs typically. Lets be clear tho...someone should make Brown understand that he's getting knuckles for a hit like that....or he steps it up next chance he gets...

Of the four times a Sedin has been run hard this year, this was the 1st that I would call legal. All four times Bieksa has been on the ice...two hits from behind with a Sedin leaning forward, the Keith hit on Danny and this one by Brown...this was the first time he even did anything more than ask the player if he felt like fighting....which the answer was always no.

Bieksa has a NTC...is going nowhere. I was sick when he became our highest paid dman...a player who can only be effective with Hamhuis....and only sometimes.

This is the tough player we choose to gut our power play over in the summer.
- boonerbuck

I don't get this, why should a player expect to get the knuckles for a clean hit? I can understand retribution on a dirty hit that went unpunished but this seems a little too Marc Crawford put a bounty on someones head over reaction. I also don't understand the hate for management and the AV hate, can someone please explain this to me, it seems that you have a great product and that you should be pretty happy.

I though he was reactionary this year actually. When this team struggled early like it always does,,,Gillis rushed into the Booth trade. If he had of waited, the scoring most likely would have come around and then gave him much longer to look at better suited deals for this team. His return was good no doubt,,,but not what this team needed for this years playoffs.

Then came the Hodgson deal. What was with that? A conversation with AV about ice time after he was banished to the 4rth line for reasosns no one could figure out and...Poof...gone for a 4rth liner....no shopping around....our best 1st round pick since Bure... gone. No help for the playoffs again...

...but then there's times when he should be reactionary...like with Raymond. How they can say we need to get tougher by trading Cody and keeping the much higher paid Raymond who does nothing in the playoffs and is much softer on his feet.
- boonerbuck

I'll take a stab at each of those points.

Booth - that was a heck of deal by Gillis. He sent an aging 2nd liner and a complete waste of a reclamation project for a guy many had pegged having James Neal potential. That it didn’t work out in 3 playoff games is hardly something Gillis could have foreseen.
Verdict: Not reactionary. I give this a win.

Hodgson – I think there’s something more to this deal than we’ve been told but anyway, taking it at face value, this was a poor deal with this year’s playoffs in mind. Maybe Kassian will be solid top 6 work horse at some point, but not this year and not for a few years. Hodgson is not Stamkos but when you have anemic scoring he might have helped.
Verdict: Reactionary. I give this one a fail.

Raymond – Ray Charles could see that this guy is surplus to requirements. I’m pretty sure Gillis dangled him in a package of some sort at the trade deadline but there were no takers. Short of that, the only other option was to dump him for a 4th rounder or something (reactionary), but if you’re doing that you may as well put him up in the press box.
Verdict: Not reactionary, more of an AV issue. I give this one a push.

You guys think Luongo's moved in the off-season?

I'll take a stab at each of those points.

Booth - that was a heck of deal by Gillis. He sent an aging 2nd liner and a complete waste of a reclamation project for a guy many had pegged having James Neal potential. That it didn’t work out in 3 playoff games is hardly something Gillis could have foreseen.
Verdict: Not reactionary. I give this a win.

Hodgson – I think there’s something more to this deal than we’ve been told but anyway, taking it at face value, this was a poor deal with this year’s playoffs in mind. Maybe Kassian will be solid top 6 work horse at some point, but not this year and not for a few years. Hodgson is not Stamkos but when you have anemic scoring he might have helped.
Verdict: Reactionary. I give this one a fail.

Raymond – Ray Charles could see that this guy is surplus to requirements. I’m pretty sure Gillis dangled him in a package of some sort at the trade deadline but there were no takers. Short of that, the only other option was to dump him for a 4th rounder or something (reactionary), but if you’re doing that you may as well put him up in the press box.
Verdict: Not reactionary, more of an AV issue. I give this one a push.
- AlexF

I watched Booth enough this season to expect what I've seen. He looks better out there than an aging NHLer but doesnt produce consistantly enough to be considered an upgrade. You missed my point about Gillis closing doors by making this trade to soon. it's not all about Booth vrs. Samuelsson. I'm more complicated than that.

If it was a heck of a deal you would think Booth would outplay Samuelsson with the 8 more games he played. Like I said, Gillis got good return...but obviously not what we needed. Samuelsson is still carrying a PP unit. Booth doesnt fit in at all with our PP. Booth disappears for a dozen games at a time...Samuelsson plugs away and chips in pretty steady... Samuelsson is by no means a must have but his contribution was never replaced. More of our PP gutted.

You guys think Luongo's moved in the off-season?
- gravyface

Only if he requests it and that would have to be between now and the draft where Gillis will most likely play his hand.

Carkner should be banned from the NHL for that incident. This hit was clean.
- yea-ok-buddy

If Shea Weber didn't get suspended then every hit shouldn't be a suspension. The refs have been terrible in the playoffs and shanny worse. Danny practising.
I picked the kings to win this series saying that if Danny doesn't play we r screwed. If Danny plays the rest of the series I actually give the canucks a slight chance. Every game could have gone either way.

You guys think Luongo's moved in the off-season?
- gravyface

I think so. I say to Tampa for Brett Connolly and either det 1st ot Tampa 2nd.

Don't give up on your team guys, In the playoff series you gotta play a full 240 minutes to move onto the next round, there's more hockey to be played, The flyers fans didn't when they we're down 3-0 against the bruins in 2010, what makes you guys any different, and if there are any Canucks fans here that live in LA, if the kings eliminate you guys in LA, don't riot here, LA police isn't soft like VAN police, and one more thing, if the Canucks wanna be a team, maybe they should act like one, stop playing individually, I've seen Henrik just mess with the puck, pass it, Daniel's not around so stop looking for him, and for Kesler, stop diving makes you look like a biotch, and no one likes it, instead of diving go out and score.
- Playmaker1018

I liked your post until that.

Get out of here.

I liked your post until that.

Get out of here.
- Mattjd123

I said If not When. And if it's the riot thing it's just a heads up. Sorry bud.

Don't give up on your team guys, In the playoff series you gotta play a full 240 minutes to move onto the next round, there's more hockey to be played, The flyers fans didn't when they we're down 3-0 against the bruins in 2010, what makes you guys any different, and if there are any Canucks fans here that live in LA, if the kings eliminate you guys in LA, don't riot here, LA police isn't soft like VAN police, and one more thing, if the Canucks wanna be a team, maybe they should act like one, stop playing individually, I've seen Henrik just mess with the puck, pass it, Daniel's not around so stop looking for him, and for Kesler, stop diving makes you look like a biotch, and no one likes it, instead of diving go out and score.
- Playmaker1018

I agree kesler has to stop it. But last night Richards and Williams made to obvious dives in the 1st and the ref bit. If the refs are gonna give power plays for the other team doing it, then guys are gonna do it back

Don't give up on your team guys, In the playoff series you gotta play a full 240 minutes to move onto the next round, there's more hockey to be played, The flyers fans didn't when they we're down 3-0 against the bruins in 2010, what makes you guys any different, and if there are any Canucks fans here that live in LA, if the kings eliminate you guys in LA, don't riot here, LA police isn't soft like VAN police, and one more thing, if the Canucks wanna be a team, maybe they should act like one, stop playing individually, I've seen Henrik just mess with the puck, pass it, Daniel's not around so stop looking for him, and for Kesler, stop diving makes you look like a biotch, and no one likes it, instead of diving go out and score.
- Playmaker1018

Get off your high horse. This series could easily be 2 -1 canucks.

I agree kesler has to stop it. But last night Richards and Williams made to obvious dives in the 1st and the ref bit. If the refs are gonna give power plays for the other team doing it, then guys are gonna do it back
- Bieksa#3

Canucks dive yeah yeah we all know.

But to pretend that Brown and Doughty and others don't have a reputation for that as well is ridiculous.

If the Canucks are swept what types of changes will occur in the offseason? I'm assuming AV is the first to go. I will be interested to see what stars they put on the trading bloc

If the Canucks are swept what types of changes will occur in the offseason? I'm assuming AV is the first to go. I will be interested to see what stars they put on the trading bloc
- FinAddict

1) Coaching

2) Goaltending

3) Defense upgrade

Vancouver has always been my west coast team...
I'm SHoCKED at what's happening

It's become obvious that without both the Sedins you guys just can't get it done offensively
My guess is that u guys try n get rid of ballard's contract...
Which would give u room to go after Parise and/or Suter
U might have to trade Raymond too, but if it meant getting Parise I doubt you'd miss him even a little
Plus , you can trade Schneider or even luongo (tough contract to move though)
I can't imagine u guys blowing it up
I'd just chalk it up to no sedin n focus on solidifying your secondary scoring

Vancouver has always been my west coast team...
I'm SHoCKED at what's happening

It's become obvious that without both the Sedins you guys just can't get it done offensively
My guess is that u guys try n get rid of ballard's contract...
Which would give u room to go after Parise and/or Suter
U might have to trade Raymond too, but if it meant getting Parise I doubt you'd miss him even a little
Plus , you can trade Schneider or even luongo (tough contract to move though)
I can't imagine u guys blowing it up
I'd just chalk it up to no sedin n focus on solidifying your secondary scoring
- jdfitz77

Plus the whole Kesler-shadow-of-himself bullcrap

Plus the whole Kesler-shadow-of-himself bullcrap
- Mattjd123

Keslord *

1) Coaching

2) Goaltending

3) Defense upgrade
- Mattjd123

help me understand why you need an upgrade here, you have the best tandem in the NHL, I know you have to do something with Schneider but I wouldn't say goaltending has been a problem since you signed Luongo.

help me understand why you need an upgrade here, you have the best tandem in the NHL, I know you have to do something with Schneider but I wouldn't say goaltending has been a problem since you signed Luongo.
- Cornelius

Didnt say upgrade.

I meant personnel changes I.E. moving one of the two.

Keslord *
- OJSIMPSON32

The artist formerly known as keslord.

I think so. I say to Tampa for Brett Connolly and either det 1st ot Tampa 2nd.
- Bieksa#3

That's not the first time I've heard that. You hear rumblings that that was the asking price and/or potential deal at some point?

Didnt say upgrade.

I meant personnel changes I.E. moving one of the two.
- Mattjd123

How long till Vancouver has an out on Luongos contract if they can't trade him? I think his out kicks in after the Sedins contracts end in a couple years, is that correct? I'm sure they won't have a problem moving either of them.

How long till Vancouver has an out on Luongos contract if they can't trade him? I think his out kicks in after the Sedins contracts end in a couple years, is that correct? I'm sure they won't have a problem moving either of them.
- Cornelius

Yes, the contract is nowhere near the albatross that people make it out to be.

That's not the first time I've heard that. You hear rumblings that that was the asking price and/or potential deal at some point?
- gravyface

From what I can tell it's based on a series of assumptions: Lu's wife is from Florida, wants to move back there, it's a relief from the pressure cooker Vancouver market, Florida already have Markstrom for the future but TB are desperate for a G.

Lu has a full NMC so unless he waives it, he can't be moved (only to the AHL in the off-season). The thinking is TB might be one of those teams he'll waive it for.

Yes, the contract is nowhere near the albatross that people make it out to be.
- whosyodaddy

5 million for a legitimate #1, and the cap hit would be lower than that, seems pretty decent.