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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 16 @ 8:40 AM ET
boy do i hope brendan shanahan reads this to the pens team right before he drops epic fines and suspensions on those pansy ass marys
- flyerscup2011



I hope ur right but I don't see be fines or suspensions.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 16 @ 8:45 AM ET


good read here:

http://www.torontosun.com...blic-enemy-no-1-in-philly


flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
No, it's the same way. Crosby this. Crosby that. When teams beat the Pens the articles aren't about them winning, it's about how this travesty happened to the Pens. It's sick.

I'm so tired of it. Stamkos, Giroux, Datsuyk and hell, even Ovi should be the faces of the league. Crosby has world class talent...but he is a joke of a man that no kid should look up to.

- hereticpride

i agree 100% its time for the NHL to find a new poster boy Crosby has no class.... i understand trying to fire your team up i understand sticking up for team mates.... what i don't understand is why after its all said and done you have to whine cry and complain ... be a man step up and act like a man you are playing in a man's game with men not children.... ACT LIKE IT
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Apr 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
I hope ur right but I don't see be fines or suspensions.
- Hextall271


you think even adams and asham got of scott free? the league does suck their roosters, could very well be the case. just think if the shoe was on the other foot how much of a public outcry there would be to suspend flyers, fine the organization, suspend the coach. but with the pens it's no harm no foul?
monkhouse
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 06.22.2007

Apr 16 @ 8:47 AM ET
I just watched some highlights of the altercations in this game. Should be very interesting to see what shannahan does. I didnt see it to well but Neal looks like he should be getting a suspension. Craig Adams should have been tossed as 3rd man in. The pens are idiots they seem like they are the ones starting these fights. This just in that's not working for you. Every time a fight starts I bet laviolette must be a bit happy inside. And and seriously Crosby. What a whinny baby. He reminds me of Boyle. Dish it but doesn't want to take it. If youre going to play that style you have to expect to get smacked around
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
I just watched some highlights of the altercations in this game. Should be very interesting to see what shannahan does. I didnt see it to well but Neal looks like he should be getting a suspension. Craig Adams should have been tossed as 3rd man in. The pens are idiots they seem like they are the ones starting these fights. This just in that's not working for you. Every time a fight starts I bet laviolette must be a bit happy inside. And and seriously Crosby. What a whinny baby. He reminds me of Boyle. Dish it but doesn't want to take it. If youre going to play that style you have to expect to get smacked around
- monkhouse

Neal won't get a suspension because the NHL has no teeth when it comes to discipline. 'Protecting our stars' only means not punishing them when they're the ones crossing the line.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
There is a great article on the Trib, http://m.triblive.com/tri...YoXkvT1&full=true#display

Pens fans are more angry at their team then we are.

Its an interesting read, little bias and things im not happy about when he calls our Stevens squads gutless but still an interesting read

- flyers4487


I've never heard Voracek referred to before as a "mega pest". Not saying he doesn't mix it up and do some yapping, but how many situations this season have there been where you could look at Voracek as a guy who truly instigated the extracurricular activity. Talbot, yes. Briere, yes. Not Voracek.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 16 @ 8:53 AM ET
Adams suspension is an automatic one. League would have to rescind it, and they won't do that.

I think Asham gets one game. Neal will get only a fine.

hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Apr 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
Crosby only actually "fought" Giroux after the linesman stepped in, and he knew he was safe. Pathetic.

Habsfan84
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.31.2008

Apr 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
Are Giroux and Couturier OK ?

Neal is a (frank)king asshhole...

I hope Crosby gets his final concussion during game 4...He's a real piece of poop who is starting everything...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 16 @ 8:56 AM ET
Crosby only actually "fought" Giroux after the linesman stepped in, and he knew he was safe. Pathetic.
- hobo


This is exactly accurate. I was screaming at the TV this very thing.

Then we have this gem from Crosby in the post game.

"I don't like those guys. I don't like them. Because I don't like them."
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 16 @ 8:56 AM ET
I don't think it's a coincidence that the main guy Asham has targeted is one that he never played with in Philly. That's not uncommon.

Despite some reputed off-ice issues, Asham served the Flyers well during his time here. He was quite good in the 2010 playoffs.

flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 16 @ 8:57 AM ET
Are Giroux and Couturier OK ?

Neal is a (frank)king asshhole...

I hope Crosby gets his final concussion during game 4...He's a real piece of poop who is starting everything...

- Habsfan84

i hope his head cracks like an egg put Shelly out there and get him to take a run at crosby i will contribute to his fine it would be worth it
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

Apr 16 @ 8:57 AM ET
The league has a chance to fix this today, by suspending Neal and Asham for 4 games. Anything less is an admission of favoritism.

It is really sad that fans and bloggers have been conditioned by the league to expect and accept such favoritism.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
Are Giroux and Couturier OK ?

Neal is a (frank)king asshhole...

I hope Crosby gets his final concussion during game 4...He's a real piece of poop who is starting everything...

- Habsfan84

Giroux and Coots seemed ok, though they kept Giroux on the bench for the end of the game (a wise move, all things considered). As for Crosby, I hope the Flyers just close out this series and move on from that (orifice), that scum's wasted enough of everybody's time.

Of course, if Sid wishes to engage the extracurriculars I wouldn't mind seeing his face rearranged.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 16 @ 8:59 AM ET
Until Brendan Shanahan, and more importantly, the NHL, starts showing some semblance of consistency with supplementary discipline, the gutless goonery isn't going anywhere. Thanks to Shanahan letting Weber off, it's open season out there now.
- jd342


Blame the owners and GM's for the lack of disciplinary action (especially to star players). They're the ones that cried when Shanahan gave lengthy suspensions.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
The Penguins are getting murdered by their media today. Getting called cheap, gutless, the whole 9 yards. I feel like I am listening to Philly radio lol.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
I don't think it's a coincidence that the main guy Asham has targeted is one that he never played with in Philly. That's not uncommon.

Despite some reputed off-ice issues, Asham served the Flyers well during his time here. He was quite good in the 2010 playoffs.

- bmeltzer

when asham played for the flyers he was a warrior he was an energy guy who could fire his team up... now i understand that he might have been standing up for a team mate who took a hard hit from Schenn but he took it way to far maybe his emotions got the best of him.... but he needs to sit a couple to think about it
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
The league has a chance to fix this today, by suspending Neal and Asham for 4 games. Anything less is an admission of favoritism.

It is really sad that fans and bloggers have been conditioned by the league to expect and accept such favoritism.

- hobo

I don't see the NHL having the stones to suspend Neal.
bgratch
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.17.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:00 AM ET
While I realize that the Weber incident has set an unfortunate precedent on stars getting away w/ cheap hits, I still think Neal is going to be suspended. Weber's hit, while reckless, was a hit while engaged with the player against the boards and retaliatory.

Neal, not once, but twice goes to the head of unsuspecting players who are not near the puck. If it was just Coots or just Giroux, maybe his star power gets him just a fine. However, the reckless spree over the course of almost minute, ON NATIONAL TELEVISION no less, should lead to a suspension. Otherwise, the NHL is just setting up for even worse acts as we get further in the playoffs.

Just my $.02
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 16 @ 9:02 AM ET
This is exactly accurate. I was screaming at the TV this very thing.

Then we have this gem from Crosby in the post game.

"I don't like those guys. I don't like them. Because I don't like them."

- MBFlyerfan

Say what you will about the guy but he is nothing short of an utter embarrassment of a Captain. If my kid is a Pens fan I take him directly to the mall and tell him "any jersey but that until he and the Pens prove themselves worthy of your loyalty"
Habsfan84
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 01.31.2008

Apr 16 @ 9:05 AM ET
Giroux and Coots seemed ok, though they kept Giroux on the bench for the end of the game (a wise move, all things considered). As for Crosby, I hope the Flyers just close out this series and move on from that (orifice), that scum's wasted enough of everybody's time.

Of course, if Sid wishes to engage the extracurriculars I wouldn't mind seeing his face rearranged.

- BulliesPhan87


Good to hear that. Go Flyers Go, sweep it, you're my team for this year ^^

I heard Adams grabbed Hartnell's hair at the end ? Wow...the Pens are really fighting like girls. Crosby behind a linesman and the other grabbing the hair...pathetic
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 16 @ 9:05 AM ET
Say what you will about the guy but he is nothing short of an utter embarrassment of a Captain. If my kid is a Pens fan I take him directly to the mall and tell him "any jersey but that until he and the Pens prove themselves worthy of your loyalty"
- hereticpride

my niece and nephew are Pens fans, they are mouthy about the Pens all the time when i saw them last night they were very very quite .... it was a very refreshing change
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 16 @ 9:07 AM ET
I don't see the NHL having the stones to suspend Neal.
- stveshdy

hey hey wait a minute in all truth when has the NHL ever had stones to go after a star player.... and don't even mention Ovie he is not the NHL poster boy
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 16 @ 9:08 AM ET
This is exactly accurate. I was screaming at the TV this very thing.

Then we have this gem from Crosby in the post game.

"I don't like those guys. I don't like them. Because I don't like them."

- MBFlyerfan


I was doing some yelling at that one myself.

Someone was talking about a comment on TV about the Pens missing a veteran on the team who would take some of these guys aside, shake them, and say, "WTF are you doing?"

They're lacking leadership, and Bylsma has lost control.
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