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Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
haha the way you even defend what neal did, just proves the point, he went right for his head.
- TaroTsujimoto


Guy, this is not your place...enjoy TROLL.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 15 @ 6:23 PM ET
I can't wait for NJ and Florida!!!!



It'll look like a KHL preseason game compared to this.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 15 @ 6:23 PM ET
I would sell body parts to see the Pens battle back and make this series go to 7. By the end of game seven, players would literally be pulling out switch blades out!

I am changing allegiance again! Go PENS Go!

- WayneZ



I think your body parts will be remaining intact.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:24 PM ET
Hartnell was going after Neal when he was already tied up with Simmonds.
- nhindian


You mean avoiding Simmonds.
WayneZ
New Jersey Devils
Location: Yay we're relevant again, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Apr 15 @ 6:24 PM ET
I can't wait for NJ and Florida!!!!



It'll look like a KHL preseason game compared to this.

- nhindian


I want a nice quiet, subdued Devil's victory. No tom foolery.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Apr 15 @ 6:24 PM ET
i'm embarrassed for the sport of hockey. the penguins are such scum. i just have to say it. there is no place in hockey for this type of behavior
- flyerscup2011


Remember you said that...because there will be some point in time that your team will do it too.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:27 PM ET
haha the way you even defend what neal did, just proves the point, he went right for his head.
- TaroTsujimoto


At least guys like Neal, Sid, Kunitz, Letang, are willing to do what no one on your team of ladies would. You would never see Vanek, Roy, Pominville, Myers drop the gloves to defend a teammate or send a message. And that's why your team underachieves year in and year out. Philly too has guys with skill who will play with some stones and do what needs to be done. Which is also why they're consistently better than Buffalo.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
honestly, the Pens are playing exactly the opposite of the way they've should have played to win this series. they needed to remain in control and let the Flyers be the ones with the dirty stuff.

the Pens needed to rise above this kind of junk, not sink below it.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Apr 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
Not trying to troll here. But has Neal ever done something like that before? Has he ver had any discipline hearing?
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 15 @ 6:30 PM ET
honestly, the Pens are playing exactly the opposite of the way they've should have played to win this series. they needed to remain in control and let the Flyers be the ones with the dirty stuff.

the Pens needed to rise above this kind of junk, not sink below it.

- FlyerGuy


They have yet to play the way they have used to have gotten here. The Flyers have capitalized every time. They have been superior.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Apr 15 @ 6:31 PM ET
Aaron Asham gets one shift a period, better go throw punches at someone laying face down on the ice.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
Both teams were classless. I won't defend the Pens on this, but the Flyers were instigating and engaging just as much. It was far from a one-sided situation.
- schiefer466


while the flyers weren't clean they were no where near as dirty as the pens and the fact the pens org wants to be portrayed as a model and classy franchise well this sure doesn't back them up and if you compare Mario and his speech after the isles brawl and crying that he will move the team sure is very classy

the flyers weren't out headhunting and looking to injure while you can say the pens were
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
Not trying to troll here. But has Neal ever done something like that before? Has he ver had any discipline hearing?
- Danformo


I don't think. I've never seen him even approach that level of dirty before.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
honestly, the Pens are playing exactly the opposite of the way they've should have played to win this series. they needed to remain in control and let the Flyers be the ones with the dirty stuff.

the Pens needed to rise above this kind of junk, not sink below it.

- FlyerGuy


I think they tried that and first and resorted to this when they couldn't win that way. I don't know, they're just a different looking team then the one from 2 months ago. I however give the Flyers alot of credit for that. They're speed and puck possession is just causing problems left and right.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
grrr ... 3 DAYS til game 4.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
Not trying to troll here. But has Neal ever done something like that before? Has he ver had any discipline hearing?
- Danformo


He got suspended for a headshot when he played in Dallas. Other than that there is nothing else.
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
Aaron Asham gets one shift a period, better go throw punches at someone laying face down on the ice.
- Scottie Upshall


Not that it excuses his actions, it doesn't. But why was Schenn face down on the ice? Was it the cross check to the chest? Because the way he violently threw his head back, you'd think he took a stick to the teeth, but clearly, on the replay it didnt get above his collarbone.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
Aaron Asham gets one shift a period, better go throw punches at someone laying face down on the ice.
- Scottie Upshall



I never saw the first but saw the replays, that was bush league. One of many unfortunately.
Scottie Upshall
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Mike Richards snorted coke off
Joined: 07.30.2009

Apr 15 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not that it excuses his actions, it doesn't. But why was Schenn face down on the ice? Was it the cross check to the chest? Because the way he violently threw his head back, you'd think he took a stick to the teeth, but clearly, on the replay it didnt get above his collarbone.
- schiefer466

Let me crosscheck you in the throat and see what happens
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:35 PM ET
while the flyers weren't clean they were no where near as dirty as the pens and the fact the pens org wants to be portrayed as a model and classy franchise well this sure doesn't back them up and if you compare Mario and his speech after the isles brawl and crying that he will move the team sure is very classy

the flyers weren't out headhunting and looking to injure while you can say the pens were

- dmarsden2988


Crying he will move the team? He never threatened to relocate after the Isles thing.

Nor did he threaten to sell his team. He said if stuff like that continues to happen he would consider it, not that he would. Idiots like you trump it up to make it seem he made a much bolder threat.
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 15 @ 6:35 PM ET
Let me crosscheck you in the throat and see what happens
- Scottie Upshall


Why are you here again?
schiefer466
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 03.04.2007

Apr 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
Let me crosscheck you in the throat and see what happens
- Scottie Upshall


NOt sure what that has to do with anything. Watch the replay. Asham's stick never got above the collarbone, let alone in his throat.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
Let me crosscheck you in the throat and see what happens
- Scottie Upshall

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 15 @ 6:36 PM ET
NOt sure what that has to do with anything. Watch the replay. Asham's stick never got above the collarbone, let alone in his throat.
- schiefer466


Probably didn't hurt then.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Apr 15 @ 6:37 PM ET
They have yet to play the way they have used to have gotten here. The Flyers have capitalized every time. They have been superior.
- Doogs


It's pretty obvious now that what they are TRYING to do is not working.

It's pretty obvious that 'the keep the puck in the other team's zone' approach is a strategy that doesn't require the team to play good defense. When it works, you don't need to...when it doesn't work, you are exposed.

It hasn't worked in the playoffs for the last 6 games straight and it has not really worked against the Flyers this year at all.

I'm disappointed because it didn't look like we really tried to do anything different today.

I am shocked at how poor we played in a game that should mean something to our team.

I am embarrassed that right now we are making all of those people who said things about us look like geniuses.

There are no excuses for what we have done in this series.
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