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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:56 PM ET
Posted this on Twitter earlier, will repeat it here now and in tomorrow morning's blog: It has become obvious that the most exploitable weakness on Pittsburgh is it's defense. This group is not nearly as hard to play against as the ones with Scuderi and Gill plus Gonchar (with his PP/point shot/outlet passing prowess) were. They don't block nearly as many shots or box out nearly as well.

Flyers have exploited it time and time again both in regular season series and in Games 1 and 2 of playoffs. Letang loves to hit but gets out of position a lot and Orpik is only one who has boxing out effectively.

My feeling on Fleury remains the same. He's a good goalie but not a great one. Bernie Parent used to preach the mantra to a young Pelle Lindbergh that the difference between a good goalie and a great one is that a great goalie is harder to beat for a second goal than a first. With Fleury, once you get to him, he can start to press and commit too early.

- bmeltzer


Would still like to see them dump some pucks in and lay some hits on their d. Make them really not want to handle the puck
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:56 PM ET
i was thinking about this earlier. will the league apologize to everyone and especially pittsburgh fans if the flyers eliminate the penguins?
- hammarby31

I wish I dvrd that NHL tonight segment where the three panelists all said the Flyers had no chance and Maurice specifically said the Pens in 5 that the Flyers were in over their head. That Mclennon guy what the hay already oh well looks like we might get the last laugh
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:56 PM ET
how nice would it be to get jvr in and rinaldo out?

- FlyerGuy


let him skate for a few days before even thinking about a playing time table.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:57 PM ET
voracek looks dangerous everytime he touches the puck.
- flyfan1212

If he ever figures out how to finish consistently he'll be a superstar in this league. He hasn't tapped his potential yet imo.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 13 @ 11:57 PM ET
let him skate for a few days before even thinking about a playing time table.
- ob18


Hopefully he isn't even needed for the 1st round and gets more time to skate/practice
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:58 PM ET
Hopefully he isn't even needed for the 1st round and gets more time to skate/practice
- eayost


yup
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:58 PM ET
let him skate for a few days before even thinking about a playing time table.
- ob18

Yea for real. The pace of that game is at warp 5 right now. He'll need probably half a game to get into it at least.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:59 PM ET
let him skate for a few days before even thinking about a playing time table.
- ob18

of course ... just, as soon as he's ready, I'd love to see him in there and not worry about #36 getting a penalty for breathing on someone.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Apr 13 @ 11:59 PM ET
No kidding.


- tangent_man



Letterman is great...he-heeee
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:00 AM ET
of course ... just, as soon as he's ready, I'd love to see him in there and not worry about #36 getting a penalty for breathing on someone.
- FlyerGuy


that's what I'd do as well
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:00 AM ET
Best series I have seen in a long time IMO. It has goals, come-backs, Hits, and the under dog is winning. Just great.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:01 AM ET
Posted this on Twitter earlier, will repeat it here now and in tomorrow morning's blog: It has become obvious that the most exploitable weakness on Pittsburgh is it's defense. This group is not nearly as hard to play against as the ones with Scuderi and Gill plus Gonchar (with his PP/point shot/outlet passing prowess) were. They don't block nearly as many shots or box out nearly as well.

Flyers have exploited it time and time again both in regular season series and in Games 1 and 2 of playoffs. Letang loves to hit but gets out of position a lot and Orpik is only one who has boxing out effectively.

My feeling on Fleury remains the same. He's a good goalie but not a great one. Bernie Parent used to preach the mantra to a young Pelle Lindbergh that the difference between a good goalie and a great one is that a great goalie is harder to beat for a second goal than a first. With Fleury, once you get to him, he can start to press and commit too early.

- bmeltzer


I'm sure you're gonna tell is in the Blog tommorow bill but what are your thoughts on Bryz so far? I won't be able to get on the computer till like noon probably tommorow so I'm kinda dying to hear what you got.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:01 AM ET
Posted this on Twitter earlier, will repeat it here now and in tomorrow morning's blog: It has become obvious that the most exploitable weakness on Pittsburgh is it's defense. This group is not nearly as hard to play against as the ones with Scuderi and Gill plus Gonchar (with his PP/point shot/outlet passing prowess) were. They don't block nearly as many shots or box out nearly as well.

Flyers have exploited it time and time again both in regular season series and in Games 1 and 2 of playoffs. Letang loves to hit but gets out of position a lot and Orpik is only one who has boxing out effectively.

My feeling on Fleury remains the same. He's a good goalie but not a great one. Bernie Parent used to preach the mantra to a young Pelle Lindbergh that the difference between a good goalie and a great one is that a great goalie is harder to beat for a second goal than a first. With Fleury, once you get to him, he can start to press and commit too early.

- bmeltzer


their forwards don't help out much. a lot of standing and watching.

never been a big fan of MAF. he's got great pads and most big saves he makes are on the ice. he gets beat up top a lot (which is true of a lot of goalies), although jagr's game winner was right on the ice.

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 14 @ 12:03 AM ET
Wow.

Just wow.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Apr 14 @ 12:03 AM ET
I'm still light headed.
txflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Departed Reading in '75
Joined: 08.26.2006

Apr 14 @ 12:04 AM ET
Though I visit this site multiple time a day, I never post. I'm awed and humbled by Bill's knowledge and manner of expressing that knowledge and very thankful to him for his blogs. I also enjoy most of the dialogue and displays of knowledge between the regular posters even if I sometimes think some of you are married to each other.

That said, I'm wondering if anyone has a connection to the dude that runs the scoreboard at the Wells Fargo. See, I'm thinking if we take up a 'collection' and make 'donation' we could get him to set up the score as 2-0 PIT to start the first period. Maybe then the guys will come out flying for a change.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:05 AM ET
I'm still light headed.
- rockychocbill


lay down
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:05 AM ET
their forwards don't help out much. a lot of standing and watching.

never been a big fan of MAF. he's got great pads and most big saves he makes are on the ice. he gets beat up top a lot (which is true of a lot of goalies), although jagr's game winner was right on the ice.

- hammarby31

I think he's overrated personally and always have. I think the 09 pens could have won with Leighton in net. Just saying...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 14 @ 12:06 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=393121

Bob McK giving the Flyers some love
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:06 AM ET
Though I visit this site multiple time as day, I never post. I'm awed and humbled by Bill's knowledge and manner of expressing that knowledge and very thankful to him for his blogs. I also enjoy most of the dialogue and displays of knowledge between the regular posters even if I sometimes think some of you are married to each other.

That said, I'm wondering if anyone has a connection to dude that runs the scoreboard at the Wells Fargo. See, I'm thinking if we take up a 'collection' and make 'donation' we could get him to set up the score as 2-0 PIT to start the first period. Maybe then the guys will come out flying for a change.

- txflyer

good stuff man. From the marriage part to the scoreboard
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:06 AM ET
http://www.philly.com/phi...et_van_Riemsdyk_back.html

May have missed that this was posted, but JVR may practice with the team tomorrow

- eayost


i missed it. thanks for posting.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:07 AM ET
I wish I dvrd that NHL tonight segment where the three panelists all said the Flyers had no chance and Maurice specifically said the Pens in 5 that the Flyers were in over their head. That Mclennon guy what the hay already oh well looks like we might get the last laugh
- JoeRussomanno


fools. i still don't know how noodles ever got to the nhl.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:07 AM ET
their forwards don't help out much. a lot of standing and watching.

never been a big fan of MAF. he's got great pads and most big saves he makes are on the ice. he gets beat up top a lot (which is true of a lot of goalies), although jagr's game winner was right on the ice.

- hammarby31


Staal's had a great view on a couple of goals already this series - Voracek's OT winner in game 1 and Giroux's first tonight.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 12:07 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=393121

Bob McK giving the Flyers some love

- Jsaquella

He must be planning on taking a job somewhere else
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 14 @ 12:08 AM ET
I think he's overrated personally and always have. I think the 09 pens could have won with Leighton in net. Just saying...
- JoeRussomanno


i believe if the flyers didn't melt down in game 6, they would have won in game 7 at the igloo. such a shame.
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