Yeah, you're right. Contact Nill and Hextall is all posturing in order to calm the Manitoban faction of the habs fan base. And Tony Marinaro.

Gimme a break.
- Pecafan Fan

You really think that after Savard came out and declared the next GM will be French, and after the whole BS Cunnyworth language issue that happened, that the Habs can go out and get a non-French GM now?

If the Habs do that, they will get murdered in the press.

Once Savard opened his mouth, there was a ZERO chance of anything else, regardless if what Molson may have implied could be different.

OMG!!!!! HABS WILL SUCK FOREVER BECAUSE OF IT!

Hey, I have an idea... how about you wait to find out who they nominate, or better yet, wait until he actually does something before whining?
- Pecafan Fan

I suspect that is what you will gladly do, and complain as loud as hell a few months down the line when you are not happy.

At least have the balls to pick a POV and stop flipping it over and over like you always do.

I suspect that is what you will gladly do, and complain as loud as hell a few months down the line when you are not happy.

At least have the balls to pick a POV and stop flipping over it over and over like you always do.
- JDJ

Point of view on what?
Whining because they want a bilingual GM is not having a point of view. It's just that, whining.

Believe it or not, in this very province, being bilingual is considered an asset.


Edit: And as for the rest, yeah, I reserve the right to criticize the work the guy who will be nominated as GM will do. What else should I be doing? Drink the koolaid and say nothing?

So even if they contacted Jim Nill, you're still whining about the fact they might want to hire a bilingual candidate?


Cry moar.
- Pecafan Fan

According to Lavoie, Nill thanked the Habs for their interest but he's not interested in being a GM in Montreal.

Good news is the Habs do seem to be going after the best candidates regardless of language.

According to Lavoie, Nill thanked the Habs for their interest but he's not interested in being a GM in Montreal.
- J-P

Lies.

He was never going to be the GM anyway.

Ask JDJ.

Point of view on what?
Whining because they want a bilingual GM is not having a point of view. It's just that, whining.

Believe it or not, in this very province, being bilingual is considered an asset.
- Pecafan Fan

No, I am making a point the process is flawed and the organization is pre-eliminating great candidates because of some lame idea that being primarily French (or bilingual) is any form of asset to putting a great hockey team together.

Obviously, the Allouettes would be so much more successful run and coached by a bunch of French speaking folks. If only...

No, I am making a point the process is flawed and the organization is pre-eliminating great candidates because of some lame idea that being primarily French (or bilingual) is any form of asset to putting a great hockey team together.

Obviously, the Allouettes would be so much more successful run and coached by a bunch of French speaking folks. If only...
- JDJ

Yeah, the Alouettes are obviously an organisation of the same magnitude as the Habs in this province.

Come on, seriously?

nobody gives a flying (frank) about the CFL.

You really think that after Savard came out and declared the next GM will be French, and after the whole BS Cunnyworth language issue that happened, that the Habs can go out and get a non-French GM now?

If the Habs do that, they will get murdered in the press.

Once Savard opened his mouth, there was a ZERO chance of anything else, regardless if what Molson may have implied could be different.
- JDJ

The press does not sign the payroll and they're not the ones to lose money when the team misses the playoffs. The french media in particular can go screw a goat, let them whine all they want. I have no problem going with a french coach, if he sucks we get rid of him but a GM can be there for a decade or more and his decisions will dictate everything. The crowd pleaser can be behind the bench, let the BEST candidate handle management.

See St-Louis, had right group of guys, only needed the right coach. Easier to find a coach than to change your drafting, development strategies.

Yeah, the Alouettes are obviously an organisation of the same magnitude as the Habs in this province.

Come on, seriously?

nobody gives a flying (frank) about the CFL.
- Pecafan Fan

What a (frank)ing cop-out.

What other lame excuses you want to make?

What a (frank)ing cop-out.

What other lame excuses you want to make?
- JDJ

YOU brought the Alouettes into this, not me.

The press does not sign the payroll and they're not the ones to lose money when the team misses the playoffs. The french media in particular can go screw a goat, let them whine all they want. I have no problem going with a french coach, if he sucks we get rid of him but a GM can be there for a decade or more and his decisions will dictate everything. The crowd pleaser can be behind the bench, let the BEST candidate handle management.
- J-P

I agree.

Unless you want your GM to be a media whore in the mold of Brian Burke, why the (frank) does it matter what language he speaks?

If he happens to speak French, and is a top candidate, so be it. Good for them.

Wait fo two weeks Alain Vigneault will be availavle
- VANTEL

LOL! You might be right and, if he is, I think he jumps to the top of the candidate list in Montreal...

YOU brought the Alouettes into this, not me.
- Pecafan Fan

To imply it is OK for one organization but not another is plainly a sad cop-out.

Until everyone is yelling after the Alouettes to do the same, all this is just self-serving bullpoop by people who really don't give a poop about the team, but love the publicity it generates.

(frank)ing sad.

Welcome back Kamal...

The Habs truly have an opportunity to do something right. Having Serge Savard in place is a great start. This decision will set the course for The Canadiens organisation for the next decade...the last rebuild fell short. I'm not sure I can stomach another one...
- FuzE_gus

Agreed, but this time they have the opportunity to do it right. Savard is a good appointment, especially because it will keep those crying foul about language, at bay.

I think the Habs should be more interested in the best man for the job and not the best Bilingual man for the job....their arrogance trumps the leafs at times.
- Pyzik

Can't really argue with you on this one. That being said, there is a delicate political reality in Montreal, that they can;t just ignore. But, to me, that is why I like them appointing Savard as SVP. Even if they go with an Anglo, it will be tough for the French media to cry about it, given that Savard will have signed off on it...and he is VERY well respected in those circles.

I agree.

Unless you want your GM to be a media whore in the mold of Brian Burke, why the (frank) does it matter what language he speaks?

If he happens to speak French, and is a top candidate, so be it. Good for them.
- JDJ

See? This is precisely why I am "irritated" by your supposedly unbiased and honest point of view. You make it sound that because the candidate they want should be bilingual, that it will by default mean that he is the wrong candidate or he'll be of a lesser quality because of it.

I'm not saying that this is what you think, I'm saying that it's how it comes across.

Same with your hatred for Desharnais or even Latendresse. No way these guys should get a chance to play on the top line, but Lars Eller? Yes, right now!

Know what I mean?

Apparently, the Habs have asked permission to speak with Jim Nill. Whatever comes of that, I doubt he leaves the Wings, regardless.
- JDJ

Yep, but, from my understanding, he isn't interested and/or the Wings did not give permission.

did the Central Scouting Agency release the top 10 gm prospects yet?

GMs are not like players dude, there's no clear-cut best prospect
- Traceur

LOL!

I agree.

Unless you want your GM to be a media whore in the mold of Brian Burke, why the (frank) does it matter what language he speaks?

If he happens to speak French, and is a top candidate, so be it. Good for them.
- JDJ

You know who we should talk to, Maloney in Phx. That guy has poop for a budget and still managed to ice a playoff team. Let him spend to the cap and he'll build you a contender.

I hope they're patient enough to wait until Phx is eliminated to make their final evaluation.

To imply it is OK for one organization but not another is plainly a sad cop-out.

Until everyone is yelling after the Alouettes to do the same, all this is just self-serving bullpoop by people who really don't give a poop about the team, but love the publicity it generates.

(frank)ing sad.
- JDJ

what is sad is trying to compare the habs to the alouettes IMO

There is zero inside knowledge.

Savard came out and said it - he said the next GM will absolutely be French, not even French speaking, he said French. As in Québécois.

All this other poop like Hextall and Nill is just to make it look like the Habs went out to get the best guy, and after already eliminating those that are not French before the process even began, they can say the guy they picked is the best, because they talked to everyone, and it just so happens he is also Québécois!

If you want to believe that poop, go ahead.

Oh Savard, how you will come save the Habs from the big bad evil Anglos only to ruin the team to make an outdated point!

Oh hurray!

How Saint-Jean-Baptiste Day will be so even more glorious!
- JDJ

OR

perhaps the Savard appointment was a brilliant political move by Molson, putting him in place to take heat off the language debate, regardless of who they chose...

If the Habs chose an Anglo GM, Savard will have signed off on it and will trumpet him as "the best" to the Franco media...sounds like a pretty smart move to me.

The Habs are doing this privately, it's the media who are speculating and god knows with the Habs out of the playoffs, they don't have much to talk about in MTL.

The Habs will talk to a bunch of guys with different backgrounds, it's up to Molson and Savard to find the best guy they think will do the job. That guy will surround himself with one or most likely a few Assistant GM's to help him.


Let's wait and see who they come up with as their candidate before people start poopting on them. You'll have plenty of times to female dog over the next few years...take it easy until they actually name the GM and his team.
- Symba007

Too true!

OR

perhaps the Savard appointment was a brilliant political move by Molson, putting him in place to take heat off the language debate, regardless of who they chose...

If the Habs chose an Anglo GM, Savard will have signed off on it and will trumpet him as "the best" to the Franco media...sounds like a pretty smart move to me.
- Kamal Panesar

See? This is precisely why I am "irritated" by your supposedly unbiased and honest point of view. You make it sound that because the candidate they want should be bilingual, that it will by default mean that he is the wrong candidate or he'll be of a lesser quality because of it.

I'm not saying that this is what you think, I'm saying that it's how it comes across.

Same with your hatred for Desharnais or even Latendresse. No way these guys should get a chance to play on the top line, but Lars Eller? Yes, right now!

Know what I mean?
- Pecafan Fan

1) I actually like Lats and hated the trade.

2) I said Deharnais is too small to play in the NHL unless it is in a top 6 role with big wingers, otherwise he will not be valuable in a checking role / 4th line center role. I still think he is the odd-man out of the Habs get a big center.

3) I really don't care who the GM is, really. I do care the process they have decided upon is flawed and eliminated outstanding candidates solely because they are not French. I want to know they got the best guy out there to do the job, not wonder if the guy got the job because he was the best French speaking candidate.

Savard said that would not happen.

The next GM will be French.

End of story.
- JDJ

True, but isn't this Molson's team?

Molson said that French is important, but the BEST candidate is MORE important. I think, is push comes to shove, Molson would chose an Anglo GM.

Let's not forget that the real beef, among those who trumpet this cause, is that the Habs should have a Franco/Bilingual Coach, NOT GM. I think they would care less about that...