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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 11 @ 11:50 PM ET
It was a very bad missed call. But so was the non-icing that led to a goal for the Pens. Two missed calls, both of which led to goals, no advantage to either team from the poor officiating.
- BringBack25


Agreed.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:51 PM ET


hahahaha

- Buzzo

wtf
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:52 PM ET


Past your bedtime Cindy....shhhhhhhhh

- Buzzo

you're killing me with these pictures buzzo
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:53 PM ET
He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak!!!!!



JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:53 PM ET
He was about a stride and a half over the line before the puck hit the blue line, but the fact that the Pens just rolled over made all the difference in the final outcome.

The refs didn't affect the outcome of this game. They rarely do. It's just an excuse.

- nhindian

I give you credit cuz I know if this game went the other way we'd have another hundred pages in here of ref complaints
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
I give you credit cuz I know if this game went the other way we'd have another hundred pages in here of ref complaints
- JoeRussomanno


rightfully so. i'd be (frank)ing fuming.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:54 PM ET
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:55 PM ET
I thought the reffing was ... acceptable. It wasn't bad. The icing was clearly waved off (as seen in the TSN replays), but the crowd must've deafened Coburn to hearing it. It wasn't like the refs said it was icing and then decided not to call it.

It comes down to the Flyers capitalizing on the PP and the Pens going 0-3 on it.

- nhindian


Yes, that's exactly what happened. It should have been icing, and the trailing official still had his arm up. I'm sure the crowd noise made it hard for Coburn to hear, but the issue is it never should have been waived off to begin with. It was a bad call imo. Same as the missed offside. Sometimes that's the way it goes. Gotta move on.

But you're right, I don't think either one decided the game. Hopefully whoever refs game two will be better.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:55 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

love the faces on the Pens fans behind the glass.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:55 PM ET
rightfully so. i'd be (frank)ing fuming.
- hammarby31

I don't like to whine about the refs but yea, I'd be there with ya
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:55 PM ET
I give you credit cuz I know if this game went the other way we'd have another hundred pages in here of ref complaints
- JoeRussomanno


Ha, maybe if the Pens were only up a goal. But to blow a 3 goal lead is completely unacceptable and can never be blamed on reffing.


My one biased comment: I like how the attitude towards Bryz and Briere changed so drastically over 1 period
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:56 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


read was pretty quiet tonight. i picked him to have a huge series.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 11 @ 11:56 PM ET
Yes, that's exactly what happened. It should have been icing, and the trailing official still had his arm up. I'm sure the crowd noise made it hard for Coburn to hear, but the issue is it never should have been waived off to begin with. It was a bad call imo. Same as the missed offside. Sometimes that's the way it goes. Gotta move on.

But you're right, I don't think either one decided the game. Hopefully whoever refs game two will be better.

- BringBack25


It's pretty common for a linesman to signal icing and then wave it off once the play develops.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:57 PM ET
Flyers on the 1st page on ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/
Slammed81
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gwynedd, PA
Joined: 06.04.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:57 PM ET
Does anyone go back and read the comments from like 7:30 to the end of the game its hilarious i was rolling reading the comments it went from to to to to to TO
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Apr 11 @ 11:57 PM ET
It was a very bad missed call. But so was the non-icing that led to a goal for the Pens. Two missed calls, both of which led to goals, no advantage to either team from the poor officiating.
- BringBack25

I think you nailed it. No call was worse then the other because the fact of the matter is, the result was the same. It led to a goal against both teams.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:58 PM ET
rightfully so. i'd be (frank)ing fuming.
- hammarby31


With good reason. It was a bad miss. No doubt about it. Pens fans have every right to be upset about it. But I don't thing you can blame the loss on it (not that I have seen any of them doing so, just making a point).
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 11 @ 11:58 PM ET
Ha, maybe if the Pens were only up a goal. But to blow a 3 goal lead is completely unacceptable and can never be blamed on reffing.


My one biased comment: I like how the attitude towards Bryz and Briere changed so drastically over 1 period

- nhindian

I can only imagine what the attitude was like in here during the game. As for Bryz I've been totally behind him all the way from day 1, Briere that guy's washed up
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 11 @ 11:58 PM ET
Ha, maybe if the Pens were only up a goal. But to blow a 3 goal lead is completely unacceptable and can never be blamed on reffing.


My one biased comment: I like how the attitude towards Bryz and Briere changed so drastically over 1 period

- nhindian


What? No, that's crazy talk.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:58 PM ET
Does anyone go back and read the comments from like 7:30 to the end of the game its hilarious i was rolling reading the comments it went from to to to to to TO
- Slammed81


KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:59 PM ET
I'm so glad none of you jumped off the cliff tonight.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 11 @ 11:59 PM ET
Ha, maybe if the Pens were only up a goal. But to blow a 3 goal lead is completely unacceptable and can never be blamed on reffing.


My one biased comment: I like how the attitude towards Bryz and Briere changed so drastically over 1 period

- nhindian

Most Philly fans are bipolar. We either think everything is sunshine and pretty girls or jump-off-the-bridge time.

And it can change from one moment to the next.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
I think you nailed it. No call was worse then the other because the fact of the matter is, the result was the same. It led to a goal against both teams.
- roenick97


Disagree. One was a blown call, while the other was waved off officially.

But that's the ebb and flow of human referees.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:00 AM ET
It's pretty common for a linesman to signal icing and then wave it off once the play develops.
- nhindian


true, but the back ice linesman had his arm up, then the near ice linesman waived it off on the opposite side of the ice well behind coburn who certainly couldn't see him, and it seems he didn't hear him because he played it like an icing call was up for grabs.
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