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As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:11 PM ET
Need I remind you?



It's an 82 game season...it all evens out in the end.

- Juice


B-B-B-But that's incidental contact!!!

Just kidding, that was pretty brutal.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
Need I remind you?



It's an 82 game season...it all evens out in the end.

- Juice

Not true. Habs get more calls than other teams.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:20 PM ET
Listen to Ennis post game interview, he saw what the ref saw. Every second the puck was getting pinballed around, still visible. It would come past him, he would take a whack at it, then he would see it again. The ref likely saw the same thing. Scrivens tried to grab it with his blocker, but couldnt.

When you lose sight of the puck from the overhead, it looks like its visibly under Lombardi, who is in the crease. If a whistle is blown its a penalty shot.

Leopold knew where the puck was prior to poking it in. You can see him frantically trying to free his stick from the grasp of Scrivens. The second his stick gets free from Scrivens hands, he immediately pokes at the puck in one motion and its in the net.

There were at least 3 penalties being committed by the Leafs during that entire scrum. If they were less worried about holding sticks, sitting on top of players and more worried about finding the puck and covering it or getting it out, it wouldnt have been a goal.


Lastly, I turned to my friend when watching the game and said "Scrivens never acted like he had the puck, he shouldve faked it"... listen to Millers post game interview "Yeah, I wouldve faked that I had the puck to make the referee believe that hey the goalie has it".. rookie mistake.

- theblueandgold


Ennis - Look at the source, what else is he supposed to say, "HAHA, the ref blew the call, what a sucker!"

"...it looks like its visibly under Lombardi, who is in the crease. If a whistle is blown its a penalty shot." THIS IS LIKELY THE RIGHT CALL!

Leopold - Appears to "pitchfork" aka SPEAR Lombardi.

Penalties - Both teams we guilty of a couple penalties each and the ref could have blown it down on this fact alone!

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Not true. Habs get more calls than other teams.
- hscesq


Just like the Canucks apparent NEVER get any calls, right?
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
Just like the Canucks apparent NEVER get any calls, right?
- As_I_See_It

And Betman loves Crosby.
Purple Eagle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Somewhere in Niagara County, NY
Joined: 07.06.2006

Apr 4 @ 1:24 PM ET
Listen to Ennis post game interview, he saw what the ref saw. Every second the puck was getting pinballed around, still visible. It would come past him, he would take a whack at it, then he would see it again. The ref likely saw the same thing. Scrivens tried to grab it with his blocker, but couldnt.

When you lose sight of the puck from the overhead, it looks like its visibly under Lombardi, who is in the crease. If a whistle is blown its a penalty shot.

Leopold knew where the puck was prior to poking it in. You can see him frantically trying to free his stick from the grasp of Scrivens. The second his stick gets free from Scrivens hands, he immediately pokes at the puck in one motion and its in the net.

There were at least 3 penalties being committed by the Leafs during that entire scrum. If they were less worried about holding sticks, sitting on top of players and more worried about finding the puck and covering it or getting it out, it wouldnt have been a goal.


Lastly, I turned to my friend when watching the game and said "Scrivens never acted like he had the puck, he shouldve faked it"... listen to Millers post game interview "Yeah, I wouldve faked that I had the puck to make the referee believe that hey the goalie has it".. rookie mistake.

- theblueandgold


It was never under Lombardi; he fell and the puck was in Leo's skates next to Foligno.

Scrivens never, never had any coverage on the puck. He tried, but he clearly missed.

FTR: both the ref and the linesman are both Canadian

Gotta love the way Foligno dogged Komi after the F/O
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
RULE 85.3 Puck Out of Sight:

Should a scramble take place or a player accidentally fall on the puck and the puck be out of sight of the Referee, he shall immediately blow his whistle and stop the play. The puck shall then be faced-off at the nearest face-off spot in the zone where the play was stopped unless otherwise provided for in the rules.

AGAIN, the ref's reaction to the puck being in the net WAS DELAYED and therefore lost sight of the puck and should have blown the whistle as per Rule 85.3. There is NO WAY that the ref had a visual on the puck the entire time in the middle of 10 PLAYERS IN THE CREASE. If he did, his head and body would have followed the puck into the net AS IT WAS GOING IN! It's pretty clear that the ref reacted to the crowd noise.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that the Leafs didn't get the extra point, but it still doesn't change the fact that it was a bullshit non-call.

- As_I_See_It


what if:

he saw the puck then lost track and was making a move to whistle it dead--as per the rules

then the puck squirted free, so he held back

then he lost track of the puck and was making a move to whistle it dead--as per the rules

then the puck squirted free

then he lost track of it again and would've had the opportunity to whistle it dead--as per the rules

but the horn sounded and the crowd went wild befor he could whistle it dead?


Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
Not true. Habs get more calls than other teams.
- hscesq

You speak the truth !

Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
Just like the Canucks apparent NEVER get any calls, right?
- As_I_See_It

Calgary comes in 2nd after the Hab's. Then Boston.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
You speak the truth !


- Pairo11



I knew you'd reply!
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:43 PM ET
Calgary comes in 2nd after the Hab's. Then Boston.
- Pairo11

Oh, so there's a list!!
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Oh, so there's a list!!
- hscesq

That's pretty much it though.

When the Saddledome or whatever they call it now gets rocking the ref's get pretty intimidated. In Boston it's different though. They're just blatantly 'on the take' there !

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 4 @ 1:54 PM ET
That's pretty much it though.

When the Saddledome or whatever they call it now gets rocking the ref's get pretty intimidated. In Boston it's different though. They're just blatantly 'on the take' there !


- Pairo11

You are too funny.
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