So, why the non-stop hatred?

Are you saying that we have, at this moment in time, won the trade?

Now THAT'S interesting coming from you.
- Leeman4Gilmour

i think he means hes worth the picks, not that hes worth seguin and hamilton and knight

ok what about biggs?
- matt1337

Biggs and Ashton are going to look great on the 3rd line one day.

Are you capable of reading something and actually being able to comprehend it?
- Unholy_Goalie

Please elaborate on this comment for us:

"Kessel, right now, is worth as much or more than what we got him for."

I take it to mean that you believe that Kessel is currently worth more than the price we paid for him. In other words, the asset we have to today is worth MORE than the assets we used to acquire him.

Result: net gain. Are we not to define that, at this very moment in time, as a "win"?

But feel free to give us your interpretation.

i think he means hes worth the picks, not that hes worth seguin and hamilton and knight
- MetroidPrime

Sweet baby, 8 lbs, 6 oz. Jesus, we have somebody who can read!

Biggs and Ashton are going to look great on the 3rd line one day.
- Unholy_Goalie

The crystal ball is working overtime in the U_G household (read: basement) tonight.

So whats the general consensus after the game? I didn't watch it.

Sabres a lock for the cup again?

Sweet baby, 8 lbs, 6 oz. Jesus, we have somebody who can read!
- Unholy_Goalie

ya, whats going on with the education system in canada

ya, whats going on with the education system in canada
- wingz4life

I think it has to do with the population figures. Just like hockey dominance.

i think he means hes worth the picks, not that hes worth seguin and hamilton and knight
- MetroidPrime

Except that those picks aren't picks anymore. They are concrete assets. As of draft day 2011, they are known commodities, not abstract concepts.

Sweet baby, 8 lbs, 6 oz. Jesus, we have somebody who can read!
- Unholy_Goalie

A little logic:

"Kessel, right now, is worth as much or more than what we got him for."

what we got him for = Hamilton, Seguin, Knight

Therefore, it necessarily follows that: Kessel is, right now, worth as much as Hamilton, Seguin, and Knight.

Feel free to add your own interpretation, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.

Sweet baby, 8 lbs, 6 oz. Jesus, we have somebody who can read!
- Unholy_Goalie

So whats the general consensus after the game? I didn't watch it.

Sabres a lock for the cup again?
- markmark

Marcus Foligno was a human wrecking ball, knocked Gunnarsson out of the game, the Leafs had a 3-0 lead, they blew it, lost in OT. They can't win nor can they lose properly. Nothing new.

Hamilton
- Leeman4Gilmour

Since everything else you had was irrelevant, let's talk about Dougie Hamilton.

17 goals, 72 points, +37.

2 playoff goals, 8 playoff points.

As a defender.

Glad we don't have him in our system.

Since everything else you had was irrelevant, let's talk about Dougie Hamilton.

17 goals, 72 points, +37.

2 playoff goals, 8 playoff points.

As a defender.

Glad we don't have him in our system.
- Unholy_Goalie

DRAFT SCMAFT!

Since everything else you had was irrelevant, let's talk about Dougie Hamilton.

17 goals, 72 points, +37.

2 playoff goals, 8 playoff points.

As a defender.

Glad we don't have him in our system.
- Unholy_Goalie

You are the one who said - and once again I quote directly: "Kessel is, right now, worth as much or more than what we got him for" (aka. Hamilton + Seguin + Knight)

I'm simply debating you using yor own position.

If by next year we haven't made the POs, then BB will be gone, and whoever steps in will prbably deal Kessel before the end of his contract.

At that point he probably will have yet another 30+ goal season under his belt before the age of 25 and have a decent final year on his cap.

That will make for a good chip.

I like Kessel, but if by next year we haven't put together a full 82 game season that means something, then yes, he along with Grabs can go, though Grabs probably won't fetch much with that cap hit
- AngryWhiteMale

Kessel should be shopped hard this summer to see if we can shake loose a core #1 centre.

Kessel should be shopped hard this summer to see if we can shake loose a core #1 centre.
- triggermartin

And Lupul too. Sell them together if you have to. Maybe if they're lucky they can find a taker for Phaneuf and they can do it properly this time around.

You are the one who said - and once again I quote directly: "Kessel is, right now, worth as much or more than what we got him for" (aka. Hamilton + Seguin + Knight)

I'm simply debating you using yor own position.
- Leeman4Gilmour

If you haven't figured it out by now, I'm not going to explain it to you.

You aren't worth it.

DRAFT SCMAFT!
- wingz4life

The Ghosts of Draft Picks Past.

Kessel should be shopped hard this summer to see if we can shake loose a core #1 centre.
- triggermartin

In my opinion, you'd be trading to address a deficiency and leaving the same glaring hole in your top 3.

A centre with no supporting top 6 is just as futile as having one top 3 winger. At least our winger is tied for 5th overall in the NHL in points.

I can't see any possible move for any available centre out there that isn't a lateral move at best when dealing Kessel.

If you haven't figured it out by now, I'm not going to explain it to you.

You aren't worth it.
- Unholy_Goalie

Awww, be nice to poor little me.

Explain your reasoning to all of us - the great unwashed masses who don't deserve your brilliance.

I promise not to pick on you anymore if you do.

Awww, be nice to poor little me.

Explain your reasoning to all of us - the great unwashed masses who don't deserve your brilliance.

I promise not to pick on you anymore if you do.
- Leeman4Gilmour

masters in leafology , listen to him

masters in leafology , listen to him
- wingz4life

I thought he majored in Applied Precognition?

masters in leafology , listen to him
- wingz4life

That's Burke. Who else could finish 24th, 29th, 22nd and 25th and still get praised like a God for his infallibility?

His Holiness is wise to pick up on the population trends of America.

In my opinion, you'd be trading to address a deficiency and leaving the same glaring hole in your top 3.

A centre with no supporting top 6 is just as futile as having one top 3 winger. At least our winger is tied for 5th overall in the NHL in points.

I can't see any possible move for any available centre out there that isn't a lateral move at best when dealing Kessel.
- Leeman4Gilmour

This team is dying on the vine without a #1 Centre and a #1 Goaltender. Those players are building blocks, core pieces. Kessel, though a good goal scorer, is not a franchise type core player to build around.