The messed up part is that guys like Foligno are exactly what Burke was preaching. You think he'd take special attention and actually do what he was saying he would do. It's just a small example but it's annoying that the Leafs have to trade guys like Keith Aulie for Carter Ashton to ATTEMPT to get a power-forward meanwhile, they're right there under his nose and he passes on them.
- Unholy_Goalie

Kassian>Kadri. To bad Burkie was trying to trick Murray

when will the leafs open a hockey school in China and India
- wingz4life

They do:

In Markham and Brampton, respectively

Nice deflection.

So who should Dudley be drafting with all his picks this year?

The point isn't about Burke; it's about you coming to terms with the fact that you aren't omniscient.
- Leeman4Gilmour

No, the point is that it's Burke's job to find the right players. Especially when it was his own mandate to bring in guys like Foligno.

Funny how Burke makes a promise to the fans, doesn't deliver it and then when somebody calls him out on it, you and the other apologists, go after anybody and everybody that isn't Burke. You know, the guy who is actually failing to match his actions to his words.

There will never be another Scotty G.
- weirdoh

ok, the next vesa toskala

They do:

In Markham and Brampton, respectively
- AngryWhiteMale

I think teams usually pick the players they like and think will be good prospects.
- Leafsfan9329

Burke had a pick in the 3rd round and no pick in the 4th round. He picked Jamie Devane. For all intents and purposes, a big, lumbering cement head. In the 4th round the Sabres took Foligno, a tough, hard-nosed, serviceable player. He just made the wrong selection.

No, the point is that it's Burke's job to find the right players. Especially when it was his own mandate to bring in guys like Foligno.

Funny how Burke makes a promise to the fans, doesn't deliver it and then when somebody calls him out on it, you and the other apologists, go after anybody and everybody that isn't Burke. You know, the guy who is actually failing to match his actions to his words.


- Unholy_Goalie

Hey when the Toronto Sun needs to replace Steve Simmons once he accepts the replacement role at CBC for Milbury you'd be a great candidate

I think teams usually pick the players they like and think will be good prospects. yeah okay Foligno looks like is going to Pan out for the Sabres. But lets remember who the coach was in 2009 for the Leafs Ron Wilson.

What Burke said when he first took over never really panned out and he mentioned it in his press conference after he fired Wilson. I'm not defending Burke I'm just stating the fact Burke built the team the way Wilson wanted the team built. Now its his job to build the team the way Carlyle wants it built.

Freaking late round draft picks are hit or miss but I understand you are Unholy Goalie and would forever share your hate opinion on us for all time. So please carry on.
- Leafsfan9329

After so many years of getting it wrong shouldn't one expect at some point someone would get it right??..

(frank) it..Thats expecting too much..

Such bitterness.

Are you angry that you got passed over for the job?
- Leeman4Gilmour

24th, 29th, 22nd and soon 26th.

Why would a Leafs fan ever be angry about that?

They do:

In Markham and Brampton, respectively
- AngryWhiteMale

Yes, Angry While Male describes you accurately.

Check Chicago and Tampa Bay. Then come back.
- Unholy_Goalie

show me a link cause i cant find those? was this when he was just a scout or gm?

Don't start this argument.

I've seen Europe's cities I know which type of people are producing children in large numbers, and I can tell you, they aren't europeans
- AngryWhiteMale

The reality is that for the next few years, American players will become more common, especially near the upper echelon.

Their available pool of talent will continue to grow at the minor league level seeing as they haven't reached a saturation point in hockey participation like the Nordic countries and Canada. And, yes, they are still producing children at a much higher rate.

All these things are necessary for hockey to grow. We're already seeing the results of an increasingly growing American hockey program.

I'll bet they medal at every Olympics for the next 15 years.

Burke had a pick in the 3rd round and no pick in the 4th round. He picked Jamie Devane. For all intents and purposes, a big, lumbering cement head. In the 4th round the Sabres took Foligno, a tough, hard-nosed, serviceable player. He just made the wrong selection.
- Unholy_Goalie

Wasn't Devane the surprise pick at the time??...Was he not projected to be like a 6-7 rounder???

ok, the next vesa toskala
- wingz4life

Whoa. Forgot those guys grow on trees. You must watch a lot of hockey.

Im sure you guys had a better view/replay than me, but did the sabres 4th goal ever cross the line? impossible to tell on nhl.com. looked like pushing scrivens in was the only way

Burke had a pick in the 3rd round and no pick in the 4th round. He picked Jamie Devane. For all intents and purposes, a big, lumbering cement head. In the 4th round the Sabres took Foligno, a tough, hard-nosed, serviceable player. He just made the wrong selection.
- Unholy_Goalie

And making the wrong selections happen all the time in any pro sport. At the end of the day Burke and the Leaf scouts obviously liked Devane for some reason and not Foligno. Guess its a question someone should ask Burke about.

Yes, Angry While Male describes you accurately.
- triggermartin

The colour of my skin has nothing to do with my anger, to imply so is racist, especially if you are white.

I live in Kanata, Ontario for gods sake, do you understand how much I hate being a Leaf's fan?

Burke had a pick in the 3rd round and no pick in the 4th round. He picked Jamie Devane. For all intents and purposes, a big, lumbering cement head. In the 4th round the Sabres took Foligno, a tough, hard-nosed, serviceable player. He just made the wrong selection.
- Unholy_Goalie

yea but foligno was projected to go in the 4th round and devane projected in the 3rd. why waste a 3rd for a guy projected in the 4th? obviously it looks dumb now but at the time no one could see this happening

Im sure you guys had a better view/replay than me, but did the sabres 4th goal ever cross the line? impossible to tell on nhl.com. looked like pushing scrivens in was the only way
- bonzo11

Yeah it went in after the 45 second scrum and it finally came into view from underneath scrivens glove for Roy to poke it in.

Whoa. Forgot those guys grow on trees. You must watch a lot of hockey.
- weirdoh

pumped for baseball season? we start friday

show me a link cause i cant find those? was this when he was just a scout or gm?
- matt1337

He was relied heavily on both teams to draft well. Dudley is the single best asset the Leafs have in their front office in terms of drafting. It's well documented around the NHL that he has a great eye for talent.

Whoa. Forgot those guys grow on trees. You must watch a lot of hockey.
- weirdoh

ya wings arent going to win the cup so i checked out months ago

pumped for baseball season? we start friday
- bonzo11

Illitch says hes going bankrupt trying to feed Prince Fielder

The reality is that for the next few years, American players will become more common, especially near the upper echelon.

Their available pool of talent will continue to grow at the minor league level seeing as they haven't reached a saturation point in hockey participation like the Nordic countries and Canada. And, yes, they are still producing children at a much higher rate.

All these things are necessary for hockey to grow. We're already seeing the results of an increasingly growing American hockey program.

I'll bet they medal at every Olympics for the next 15 years.
- Leeman4Gilmour

It's really going to be Canada, US, SWE in the top 3 for the next decaade.

Until Russia starts producing decent defencemen they aren't going to make it far.

I should make an exception for the Finns. Despite not having a stacked lineup they do play well for their country. Though, I wonder how they'll perform in 2014 without Selanne, Koivu(s) and Kiprusoff

A side note: Scarborough's population is 600,000. You'd think a city of people that big would be able to produce enough young hockey players, yet, in a few years, their minor hockey program will fold due to lack of enrollment and any players hoping to play will need to either look towards durham or Markham/GTHL

Yeah it went in after the 45 second scrum and it finally came into view from underneath scrivens glove for Roy to poke it in.
- Leafsfan9329

thanks. Ill have to wait and see the replay on nhl tonight i guess. I'm kinda surprised there was no whistle on the tying goal. puck disappeared for a good 20 seconds