Dozzer
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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For arguments sake, what if he were to move a pick and prospect/player for a guy like Stastny? Does this go over well you think? - noename09
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no more trading away top ten picks unless its for a guy who is younger than 30 and has lead a team to success already
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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i still think reimer has a chance at being a solid goalie, i don't think last season was all luck. sometime goalies (and position players) struggle in their 2nd full season (see jimmy howard) and that goes for every pro sport...he had no pressure on him his rookie year and the world was on his shoulders this season...but that concussion is trouble. he was playing pretty well before he got hurt and now he's a train wreck.
i like lindback...probably too much, haha. his size and raw ability are very intriguing. you also gotta like a kid who can skip the ahl and make the jump from sweden to the nhl at 21. also you might be able to get him for a price a little lower then what ottawa gave up for bishop.
i'd stay away from vokoun. the first time in his career he has pressure to win and he's awful. he never had that kind of pressure and hype in florida and nashville. - houseofcards74
There isn't a chance in hell you could get lindback for less than bishop. No way.
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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With all due respect to Hudds and his preference for game style, we don't need any more big guys who are physical and would be happy getting 25ish goals or so taken in the top 10. Right now, we need obscene skill to build around. We have Ross, a
Biggs ,etc. let's let them develop in to the physical role. - p_zub
FWIW, here's the latest scouting from TSN on the top end forwards ...
Grigorenko:
NHL upside: Has been compared to Viktor Kozlov in terms of his size/skill package, but also because of his inconsistency. Has the capability of being a skilled number one center at the NHL level, but will he have the desire?
Forsberg:
NHL upside: Improvements in skating stride could lead to first-line power forward duty in the NHL. He will be a big load for NHL defencemen and goalies to contend with for many years.
Galchenyuk:
NHL upside: has the size and skill to be a top two centre if he recovers fully from missing an entire season.
Faksa:
NHL upside: The physical package is there to be a top two winger that provides size and offence to an NHL lineup soon.
Girgensons:
NHL upside: Has been compared to Colton Gillies, but with more offensive upside. The type of player that will help an NHL club win a playoff series by playing a tough, two-way game. May have the intangibles to be a top two centre.
Gaunce:
NHL upside: pretty safe pick, will be at the very least a solid third center, but has the potential to be a second-line centre in the NHL. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Seems to me everyone has him pegged to be a great 3rd line center...It's the thinking players can be more than what they projected to be that usually sets one up for failed expectations...Something thats been going on in leaf nation for years...
If the leafs are drafting 7-8 i would love to see them take Gaunce but my expectations will be for him to be exactly what many think..3rd line center...nothing wrong with that.. - Fruitcakenipple
i've read so many differing views.. thats why i find it tough to peg him anywhere really.. so i take the middle ground.. i think the guy has all the tools to be a top 6 centre.. the question to me is.. can he put it together at the pro level? |
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Battled minor injuries...yes...awful...no. - stormeyAlterEgo
anyone think the Flames would let Kipper go for a decent price? I think thats where the Leafs should focus their attention.. |
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Pecafan Fan
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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anyone think the Flames would let Kipper go for a decent price? I think thats where the Leafs should focus their attention.. - noename09
For Phaneuf. Straight up.
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no more trading away top ten picks unless its for a guy who is younger than 30 and has lead a team to success already - Dozzer
imo...the ONLY way we should move a pick/prospect this offseason is to acquire:
top centerman
proven goalie
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Canhockeyfan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 09.02.2010
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Do you think there's any chance in hell that the Av's would move Stastny for Phaneuf? Both are good, young but overpaid? - The Law
If BB were to try and trade for Stastny I would hope he would try and bring back Giggy at the same time. |
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For Phaneuf. Straight up.
- Pecafan Fan
Oh boy...how incredibly entertaining that would be |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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no more trading away top ten picks unless its for a guy who is younger than 30 and has lead a team to success already - Dozzer
I don't know why so many are so hard for stastny. He's not even the best or 2nd best C on the Avs. He good but he's certainly not a centerpiece to build around. |
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i've read so many differing views.. thats why i find it tough to peg him anywhere really.. so i take the middle ground.. i think the guy has all the tools to be a top 6 centre.. the question to me is.. can he put it together at the pro level? - Dozzer
U never know....Like i said before if the leafs are drafting 8 i hope they take him...Worst case u have a solid 3rd line center...I would take that over a small winger who has question marks/is a project..
From the Leafs standpoint the safe choice is likely the right choice.. |
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houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Royal Oak, MI Joined: 02.01.2012
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There isn't a chance in hell you could get lindback for less than bishop. No way. - burn
i said perhaps a little less...say a 3rd round pick....you are probably right though. 2nd round might be the price or a 3rd and a player...maybe someone like holzer? nashville will be very strapped for extra cash and will have to go cheap with their backups if they resign everyone....and they did give away franson last year. just a thought. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I don't know why so many are so hard for stastny. He's not even the best or 2nd best C on the Avs. He good but he's certainly not a centerpiece to build around. - burn
nor is he any bigger than the forwards we have.. need a big power forward.. not exactly what stastny is.
now dont get me wrong.. would love to have him for the right price.. but i doubt thats the going to be the case |
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stormeyAlterEgo
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Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille Joined: 09.24.2008
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I don't know why so many are so hard for stastny. He's not even the best or 2nd best C on the Avs. He good but he's certainly not a centerpiece to build around. - burn
Agreed...but that's also the reason he may be available at a reasonable price.
Sadly...he would be the best center on the Leafs. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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U never know....Like i said before if the leafs are drafting 8 i hope they take him...Worst case u have a solid 3rd line center...I would take that over a small winger who has question marks/is a project..
From the Leafs standpoint the safe choice is likely the right choice.. - Fruitcakenipple
yup, exactly.. and if he turns out to be top 6.. all the better.
one thing is certain.. he'll be an nhler |
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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 10.13.2006
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I hope the MONSTAR SIEVE starts the rest of the games... |
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stormeyAlterEgo
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Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille Joined: 09.24.2008
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nor is he any bigger than the forwards we have.. need a big power forward.. not exactly what stastny is.
now dont get me wrong.. would love to have him for the right price.. but i doubt thats the going to be the case - Dozzer
They need a center to play with Kessel....probably more than they need a power forward. |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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i said perhaps a little less...say a 3rd round pick....you are probably right though. 2nd round might be the price or a 3rd and a player...maybe someone like holzer? nashville will be very strapped for extra cash and will have to go cheap with their backups if they resign everyone....and they did give away franson last year. just a thought. - houseofcards74
Bishop was 3rd on the blues depth chart with no chance of moving up. Lindback is an established backup with potential. I just don't see it costing less than a 2nd. It's sure to cost 2nd+. |
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They need a center to play with Kessel....probably more than they need a power forward. - stormeyAlterEgo
and with Kessel and Lupul, you dont even need an overly talented center...you need one that can move the puck efficiently, create space, dig in the corners and win faceoffs. We essentially need a big gritty center for Kessel and Lupul. |
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GoneFull
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Location: ON Joined: 07.31.2010
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And with that, we are definately going 0-3 - mfreedman
Nope, you forgot to ask yourself...
What is the worst thing that can happen.
In this case, Colborne gives the fans plenty of reasons for optimism (and stupidity) next year. He plays very well, while he is here and costs the Leafs a draft position.
He goes on to have nothing more than a cup-of-coffee NHL career. |
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stormeyAlterEgo
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Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille Joined: 09.24.2008
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and with Kessel and Lupul, you dont even need an overly talented center...you need one that can move the puck efficiently, create space, dig in the corners and win faceoffs. We essentially need a big gritty center for Kessel and Lupul. - noename09
You just described David Steckel. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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They need a center to play with Kessel....probably more than they need a power forward. - stormeyAlterEgo
they need power forwards.. at least two top 6 version of them
all too often the leafs stop laying because they get frustrated because they cant penetrate the front of the net
then they start playing from the outside and taking low percantage shots
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t_leafs21
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Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON Joined: 07.26.2010
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FWIW, here's the latest scouting from TSN on the top end forwards ...
Grigorenko:
NHL upside: Has been compared to Viktor Kozlov in terms of his size/skill package, but also because of his inconsistency. Has the capability of being a skilled number one center at the NHL level, but will he have the desire?
Forsberg:
NHL upside: Improvements in skating stride could lead to first-line power forward duty in the NHL. He will be a big load for NHL defencemen and goalies to contend with for many years.
Galchenyuk:
NHL upside: has the size and skill to be a top two centre if he recovers fully from missing an entire season.
Faksa:
NHL upside: The physical package is there to be a top two winger that provides size and offence to an NHL lineup soon.
Girgensons:
NHL upside: Has been compared to Colton Gillies, but with more offensive upside. The type of player that will help an NHL club win a playoff series by playing a tough, two-way game. May have the intangibles to be a top two centre.
Gaunce:
NHL upside: pretty safe pick, will be at the very least a solid third center, but has the potential to be a second-line centre in the NHL. - The Law
I have that gut feeling were getting Alex Galchenyuk. Just cause were going to end up drafting 6-8 and its one of those risk/reward players, similar to Kadri.
Lots of players have had knee surgeries, its pretty young to have it but Malkin did last year and hes the only player to eclipse 100 points this year.
Born in Milwaukee with a belarussian dad, playing for Sarnia,Ontario. Put up 85 points as a 17 year old last year. I think we'll be looking at him |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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You just described David Steckel. - stormeyAlterEgo
i think he assumed that having a scoring touch didnt need to be mentioned |
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Agreed...but that's also the reason he may be available at a reasonable price.
Sadly...he would be the best center on the Leafs. - stormeyAlterEgo
He's going to cost more than he's worth. |
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