Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
Apr 2 @ 4:02 PM ET
There's no question it's risky to spend a 1st round pick on a goalie. Using stats from my study of the NHL draft this past summer, the average success rate of a 1st round pick, regardless of position is 65% vs. 37% for goalies drafted in the decade before the lockout. Unless a team has a major organizational need or it's a relatively weak draft year for skaters, drafting goaltenders in the 1st round is a risky endeavour, even more so with a lottery pick.
The sweet spot now appears to be the 2nd round. The success rate for skaters drafted in the 2nd round drops to 27% vs. 25.9% for goalies drafted between 1995-2004. Given that teams typically select just one netminder, the 2nd round appears to be the best spot where the risk is comparable to all other positions. - noename09
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
Apr 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
Build from the net out. - robin_steele264
That's what Burke said when he took over. Still no goalie. Still among the worst in the GAA. Traded two 1st and a 2nd for a one-dimensional goal scorer.
Maybe he meant build from the other team's net out?
There's no question it's risky to spend a 1st round pick on a goalie. Using stats from my study of the NHL draft this past summer, the average success rate of a 1st round pick, regardless of position is 65% vs. 37% for goalies drafted in the decade before the lockout. Unless a team has a major organizational need or it's a relatively weak draft year for skaters, drafting goaltenders in the 1st round is a risky endeavour, even more so with a lottery pick.
The sweet spot now appears to be the 2nd round. The success rate for skaters drafted in the 2nd round drops to 27% vs. 25.9% for goalies drafted between 1995-2004. Given that teams typically select just one netminder, the 2nd round appears to be the best spot where the risk is comparable to all other positions. - noename09
I agree generally but I'd ask what is considered "success" for the general population? It's easier to make it as a 4th liner then it is a even a back up goalie.
I think the issue is pretty clear ....g'tending is as much about talent as it is about confidence and the other mental aspects of the game. Its so hard to evaluate the mental make up of a 17 yr old g'tender and then to develop it properly.
If you're going to take a goalie high ...you better have a good book on his personality and you better be prepared to develop him properly.
Alot of those 'busts' had all the talent in the world but were destroyed by poor development or just didn't have the mental makeup.
All that said ...I doubt I'd take a goalie (any year) in the top 5 to 10 picks ...too risky.
That's what Burke said when he took over. Still no goalie. Still among the worst in the GAA. Traded two 1st and a 2nd for a one-dimensional goal scorer.
Maybe he meant build from the other team's net out? - Unholy_Goalie
Its pretty ironic considering all the things he said back then isnt it?!?!
I hope he gets asked about that by Don Cherry in a CBC 1 on 1 interview special.
I say we need a guy for our checking line... Carlyle wants to a run a checking line... A line that can take on the other teams top line check them hard and shut them down. It appears Steckel will be centering it. Our possible wingers for that line are Crabb whos doing great at it right now, Ashton who is doing a decent job now and will be better in the future, and Armstrong whos okay when healthy... But i think we need a big checker on that line. Brandon Prust is the perfect fit and he is heading for the UFA market this year. We also of course need a vet goalie to go with Reimer, thats a must, we can get that from UFA... a 1st line center should be aqquired from our 1st round pick or a trade involving our 1st round pick. And i still believe we could use a reliable d man to play with Schenn and show him the ropes and really solitify our defense... That leaves room to deal Liles and Franson... Also Connolly and Lombardi need to go.
that any franchise searching for a young goaltender should explore the trade route to fill that gap, before ever looking to invest a high draft pick and years of development into an 18 year old. that, more young developed goaltenders become available via trade than the amount of successful goaltenders walk out of the draft and impact their franchise.
oh wait, i mean i don't have a point. i missed the bus on this set-up didn't i?
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON Joined: 07.18.2010
Apr 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
that any franchise searching for a young goaltender should explore the trade route to fill that gap, before ever looking to invest a high draft pick and years of development into an 18 year old. that, more young developed goaltenders become available via trade than the amount of successful goaltenders walk out of the draft and impact their franchise.
oh wait, i mean i don't have a point. i missed the bus on this set-up didn't i?
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON Joined: 10.15.2011
Apr 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
that any franchise searching for a young goaltender should explore the trade route to fill that gap, before ever looking to invest a high draft pick and years of development into an 18 year old. that, more young developed goaltenders become available via trade than the amount of successful goaltenders walk out of the draft and impact their franchise.
oh wait, i mean i don't have a point. i missed the bus on this set-up didn't i?
awkward.. - joel878
Don't worry. I like your point. It's a nice point. No homo.
