Most of the time it's a pretty good indication....
- Fruitcakenipple

thats one thing...but for everyone to keep talking like our 21/22 year olds are busts already because they havnt lived up to their draft positions yet is a bit much. This fanbase really has zero patience it seems.

Official league standings on NHL.com have Leafs at 26th overall. The head to head doesn't count cause its interconference. I believe it goes to the 4th tie-breaker which is +/-. Leafs are at -30, Ducks sit at -24
- t_leafs21

Didn't know that ...thx. So lets hope the Ducks don't get an asskicking between now and end of year.

I think the Ducks are actually 5th right now (Leafs beat them head to head) so the Leafs sit 6th.
- The Law

Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

1.The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
2.The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
3.The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
4.The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.

BAsed on this The Ducks are ahead. #1 and 2 are the same, #3 gets tossed, Anaheim is leading #4. They are ahead.

How many times are you going to write a blog about the exact same thing, with the exact same thoughts/opinions?

Official league standings on NHL.com have Leafs at 26th overall. The head to head doesn't count cause its interconference. I believe it goes to the 4th tie-breaker which is +/-. Leafs are at -30, Ducks sit at -24
- t_leafs21

No it's because of the games differential. Nothing to do with interconference.

Umm less wins is the first tie break, Ducks 33 Leafs 34
- Oilhab

its Overtime and REgulation wins isnt it?

Umm less wins is the first tie break, Ducks 33 Leafs 34
- Oilhab

Tsn 'Standings' page has leafs picking 5th overall, but their 'Lottery draft' page has them picking 6th and Ana picking 5th.

Umm less wins is the first tie break, Ducks 33 Leafs 34
- Oilhab

Sorry, no.

its Overtime and REgulation wins isnt it?
- DarcyTucker16

Looking above, looks like just shootout wins are excluded

Umm less wins is the first tie break, Ducks 33 Leafs 34
- Oilhab

Check the site boys, common now. The tiebreaker is Regulation/ot wins. Thats what the "ROW" column is. Shootout wins don't count against the tiebreaker.

Leafs and Anaheim both have 30 regulation/ot wins, then we have the worst plus minus. NHL.COM doesn't lie, were sitting with the 5th overall pick as of today.

How many times are you going to write a blog about the exact same thing, with the exact same thoughts/opinions?
- mccraig

365 ...sometimes 366.

Sorry, no.
- burn

it is the first tie break, when the season is finished.

He won't go that low.

Should be a solid draft. Columbus will get Yakupov but then theres also rumours that the Jackets don't want to draft russians anymore. But how could they pass on him at this point?

Looks like Montreal will draft Grigorenko at #2 if they still have it. He plays for Patrick Roy. Draft Grigs, sign him to an entry level deal, then hire Patrick Roy.

Edmonton gets their 2 way offensive d-man from Red Deer in Matthew Dumba at #3

New York also needs a d-man so they'll go for Rielly,Reinhart or Trouba, but if they dont take a d-man then they'll get Filip Forsberg for sure.

Then the Leafs are up.
- t_leafs21

Rumour has the Habs have been focusing on Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk in their scouting....Timmins, head of scouting for the Habs has been following Grigorenko closely.

its Overtime and REgulation wins isnt it?
- DarcyTucker16

Yes.

Rumour has the Habs have been focusing on Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk in their scouting....Timmins, head of scouting for the Habs has been following Grigorenko closely.
- Symba007

I heard the same thing, except Galchenyuk was the guy they were following closely.

Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

1.The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
2.The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
3.The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
4.The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.

BAsed on this The Ducks are ahead. #1 and 2 are the same, #3 gets tossed, Anaheim is leading #4. They are ahead.
- burn

I'm with ya ....#3 seems clear enough to me that you ignore the head to head (because there was only one) and move on to #4. So either TSN has it wrong or we're not reading the language of #3 correctly.

it is the first tie break, when the season is finished.
- Oilhab

Nope. It's only posted 50 times in the last 2 minutes. I'll post again for you so you don't miss it again.

Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.

its Overtime and REgulation wins isnt it?
- DarcyTucker16

Darcy Tucker was in my home town Stirling on Saturday for Hockeyville...Thought you should know DarcyTucker16....

thats one thing...but for everyone to keep talking like our 21/22 year olds are busts already because they havnt lived up to their draft positions yet is a bit much. This fanbase really has zero patience it seems.
- noename09

Not bust but they not what many where hoping for them to be...At the time of the trade i believe Bob Mac had Colborne being a future 3rd line center and at this point he's looking to be exactly that(best case, his poor year may make him NHL questionable)..

Some fans are expecting to much from leaf prospects and Usually they end up jumping on fans for holding a more realistic expectation...

I heard the same thing, except Galchenyuk was the guy they were following closely.
- wolfos412

They probably have scouts following him, Timmins was in Quebec city for the 1st round to watch Grigorenko, RDS was all over that.

2nd round, Grigorenko vs McKinnon, should be good

Rumour has the Habs have been focusing on Grigorenko, Forsberg and Galchenyuk in their scouting....Timmins, head of scouting for the Habs has been following Grigorenko closely.
- Symba007

You guys have to be. You guys need a centre as much as the Leafs do. Desharnais isn't going to get you anywhere.


Him playing for Patrick Roy's team just adds fuel to it. Im not saying the Leafs are guarenteed getting Galchenyuk cause we still need to lose to keep the 5th overall pick, but If im a betting man Galchenyuk is still there by the 5th, maybe 6th overall pick. Edmonton will definetely be drafting a d-man, most likely Matthew Dumba. And if we don't get Galchenyuk, then I'm happy to settle with Filip Forsberg cause one of those 2 will be there by the 5th selection.

The league shouldn't be set up so you can route against your own team. I'm going to the buffalo game tomorrow and I don't know who do cheer for

I'm with ya ....#3 seems clear enough to me that you ignore the head to head (because there was only one) and move on to #4. So either TSN has it wrong or we're not reading the language of #3 correctly.
- The Law

TSN has them 5th in their standings and on TV when they talk of the lotto % Leafs are 5th.

Nope. It's only posted 50 times in the last 2 minutes. I'll post again for you so you don't miss it again.

Tie-Breaking procedure
* - Division leaders are seeded 1, 2, and 3 in Conference standings. If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.
- burn

Greater number wins is the same as fewest losses, No? if you are going on about a little detail like excluding the shootout wins, i already mentioned i was wrong about that.

It's unlikely the Ducks and the Leafs will remain tied in wins by the end of the season anyways.

I'm with ya ....#3 seems clear enough to me that you ignore the head to head (because there was only one) and move on to #4. So either TSN has it wrong or we're not reading the language of #3 correctly.
- The Law

Tsn has both up. Leafs 5th ovr. on standings page and Leafs 6th on their draft page