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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 31 @ 4:24 PM ET
IDK yet. I have to see the matchups, and the series odds.

With Crosby back, and the Pens having home ice, they will be a fairly big favorite. Probably something in the -180 range.

- PLindbergh31



Pens are the favorite right now at +375. Vancouver 2nd at +550. The ones I think I would lay money on is St.Louis at +700 or Boston at +850.

I mean I like the Pens to win it all but not at those odds. I don't feel like they have that much better of a chance.

FYI- Flyers +1100 right now. That's intriguing too.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:24 PM ET
I'd prefer

3-reg win
2-OT win
1-SO win

- Jsaquella

i dont like
why devalue an OT win?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:25 PM ET
i dont like
why devalue an OT win?

- Crimsoninja


Because it's 4 on 4 and it's wide open Hockey?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'd prefer

3-reg win
2-OT win
1-SO win

- Jsaquella


What does the loser get in any of those scenarios? Zero?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
Pens are the favorite right now at +375. Vancouver 2nd at +550. The ones I think I would lay money on is St.Louis at +700 or Boston at +850.

I mean I like the Pens to win it all but not at those odds. I don't feel like they have that much better of a chance.

FYI- Flyers +1100 right now. That's intriguing too.

- canadianpenfan


I meant -180 to win the series vs. the Flyers, not win the Cup.

Flyers will post a 100+ point season, and play the team favorite to win the cup in the first round.

LAUGH-A-BLE. Is what it is, I guess.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'd prefer

3-reg win
2-OT win
1-SO win

- Jsaquella



2 - win
1 - SO win
0 - any loss

- Crimsoninja



I would be good with either of those. I just don't like teams being rewarded for losing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
i dont like
why devalue an OT win?

- Crimsoninja


Because it's 4 on 4. I'd be fine with your approach, too. I just ultimately want the shootout to be less important than winning the game
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
i dont like
why devalue an OT win?

- Crimsoninja


Maybe because of the 4 on 4?

I used to be against changing the point system because I'm a traditionalist and it would screw up comparing teams from different eras point-wise, but who really knows the highest season point total anyway?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:26 PM ET
What does the loser get in any of those scenarios? Zero?
- rockychocbill


Yeah. You don't win, you don't get anything
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:27 PM ET
I would be good with either of those. I just don't like teams being rewarded for losing.
- canadianpenfan


Shootout is not "real" hockey. Even I agree on that. Any team that makes it to the SO deserves 1 point. Otherwise scrap the whole thing.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:28 PM ET
Yeah. You don't win, you don't get anything
- Jsaquella


Reg and OT fine. SO no.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:28 PM ET
Because it's 4 on 4. I'd be fine with your approach, too. I just ultimately want the shootout to be less important than winning the game
- Jsaquella

i hear you
still a team game with the 4on4

but good point
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:29 PM ET
Reg and OT fine. SO no.
- rockychocbill


Yes, you should always get a point for what is essentially a tie game.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:30 PM ET
Because it's 4 on 4. I'd be fine with your approach, too. I just ultimately want the shootout to be less important than winning the game
- Jsaquella


Then its 3 for reg or OT win and 2 for SO win and 1 for SO loss. Still my favorite scenario.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:30 PM ET
Reg and OT fine. SO no.
- rockychocbill


What's the difference between OT and shootout? Both teams sat back in the third and played for the OT to get the point locked away. What's to stop teams from laying back in the OT to lock up the sure point? That's the other thing I want to avoid. No sitting back and playing for the point.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:30 PM ET
Yes, you should always get a point for what is essentially a tie game.
- MrBuzzcut


Yup. I don't see them ever changing that.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 31 @ 4:31 PM ET
I meant -180 to win the series vs. the Flyers, not win the Cup.

Flyers will post a 100+ point season, and play the team favorite to win the cup in the first round.

LAUGH-A-BLE. Is what it is, I guess.

- PLindbergh31



Yea I knew what you meant, I thought you would be more interested in making money.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:33 PM ET
What's the difference between OT and shootout? Both teams sat back in the third and played for the OT to get the point locked away. What's to stop teams from laying back in the OT to lock up the sure point? That's the other thing I want to avoid. No sitting back and playing for the point.
- Jsaquella


Hockey vs. skills comp. I like the skills comp, because I hate ties and I think hockey is unique because it's man vs. man. If the "game" ends in a tie then the eventual loser still earned a point imo.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:34 PM ET
Anyways, time for chores. See you guys tomorrow.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 31 @ 4:35 PM ET
Hockey vs. skills comp. I like the skills comp, because I hate ties and I think hockey is unique because it's man vs. man. If the "game" ends in a tie then the eventual loser still earned a point imo.
- rockychocbill


Well, in a perfect world, it'd be 2 points for a win and 1 for a tie, with no shootout.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 31 @ 4:36 PM ET
I would be good with either of those. I just don't like teams being rewarded for losing.
- canadianpenfan

This is really what it comes down to for me. I'd personally prefer two points for a win at any point in the game, and no points for a loss at any point in the game.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:38 PM ET
Flyers not getting 2 points today clinched home ice in round 1 for the Rangers...Now go beat the Pens tomorrow.

Crazy how cheering interest can change in just 24 hours

Gotta love hockey
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:41 PM ET
Flyers not getting 2 points today clinched home ice in round 1 for the Rangers...Now go beat the Pens tomorrow.

Crazy how cheering interest can change in just 24 hours

Gotta love hockey

- TPC

beat it, troll
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:43 PM ET
beat it, troll
- Crimsoninja

Hockeybuzz wouldn't be the same without you Crims
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:45 PM ET
Hockeybuzz wouldn't be the same without you Crims
- TPC

i despise you
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