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phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Twice, actually.

- BulliesPhan87



dam it...i knew it...
i bet twice...
my twitter handle and this handle...
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:15 PM ET
Just getting back from a busy spurt in my day...

In that clip Pierre says that for the 16 years that he has been watching Forsberg, that has gotta be about the angriest he has ever seen him play. Lindros was like that every game, and when he got pissed he was the scariest player in the game, possibly ever.

Eric had size that Forsberg could only dream of. Coupled with that, he had the ability to play the same speed game that Forsberg could. Lindros was a much scarier player in my opinion. The fact that he had 4-5 inches and 35 lbs on Forsberg may be the reason, but to me Lindros was way more physically assertive. Im not speaking lb for lb, but in actuality.

- jak521


Forsberg was plenty physical in his own right -- and had just as much of a mean streak -- as Lindros. Forsberg had a Bobby Clarke-like NEED to win, and would do it by any means necessary. But, yes, Lindros would get the edge in terms of ability to deliver freight-train hits.

Lindros had the heavier shot, Forsberg had the better ice vision and passing ability (not that Lindros was any slouch). Forsberg was better without the puck and more consistently responsible defensively. Lindros was better on faceoffs.

Either which way, we're talking about elite players.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Forsberg was plenty physical in his own right -- and had just as much of a mean streak -- as Lindros. But, yes, Lindros would get the edge in terms of ability to deliver freight-train hits.

Lindros had the heavier shot, Forsberg had the better ice vision and passing ability (not that Lindros was any slouch). Forsberg was better without the puck and more consistently responsible defensively. Lindros was better on faceoffs.

Either which way, we're talking about elite players.

- bmeltzer

Lindros's ice vision ended his career
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
Forsberg was plenty physical in his own right -- and had just as much of a mean streak -- as Lindros. Forsberg had a Bobby Clarke-like NEED to win, and would do it by any means necessary. But, yes, Lindros would get the edge in terms of ability to deliver freight-train hits.

Lindros had the heavier shot, Forsberg had the better ice vision and passing ability (not that Lindros was any slouch). Forsberg was better without the puck and more consistently responsible defensively. Lindros was better on faceoffs.

Either which way, we're talking about elite players.

- bmeltzer


Forsberg was also a better dangler. He turned Lidstrom into a pillar of salt in that clip I posted earlier.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 30 @ 2:29 PM ET
Forsberg was plenty physical in his own right -- and had just as much of a mean streak -- as Lindros. Forsberg had a Bobby Clarke-like NEED to win, and would do it by any means necessary. But, yes, Lindros would get the edge in terms of ability to deliver freight-train hits.

Lindros had the heavier shot, Forsberg had the better ice vision and passing ability (not that Lindros was any slouch). Forsberg was better without the puck and more consistently responsible defensively. Lindros was better on faceoffs.

Either which way, we're talking about elite players.

- bmeltzer

Oh I completely agree with you.. I was speaking in terms of Lindros being a more physically dominating character on the ice.

Forsberg is my favorite player of all time. Here is a guy who was about 6' 200lbs but would back down from nobody. The thing with Forsberg was that he always inspired me. He had no quit in his game, and it really burned me that people threw fits about him coming and going from the game. The guy wanted to play the game more than just about anybody. He would play in all areas of the ice, and muck and grind when need be, but he just wasnt as physically menacing as Lindros. Its not a shot at him either.

Lindros may possibly be (as someone said earlier) a once in a lifetime combination of skill and size. He could do anything.. and unfortunately only concussions could stop him.. and they did.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 30 @ 2:29 PM ET
Oh I completely agree with you.. I was speaking in terms of Lindros being a more physically dominating character on the ice.

Forsberg is my favorite player of all time. Here is a guy who was about 6' 200lbs but would back down from nobody. The thing with Forsberg was that he always inspired me. He had no quit in his game, and it really burned me that people threw fits about him coming and going from the game. The guy wanted to play the game more than just about anybody. He would play in all areas of the ice, and muck and grind when need be, but he just wasnt as physically menacing as Lindros. Its not a shot at him either.

Lindros may possibly be (as someone said earlier) a once in a lifetime combination of skill and size. He could do anything.. and unfortunately only concussions could stop him.. and they did.

- jak521



Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:30 PM ET


Forsberg is my favorite player of all time. Here is a guy who was about 6' 200lbs but would back down from nobody. The thing with Forsberg was that he always inspired me. He had no quit in his game, and it really burned me that people threw fits about him coming and going from the game. The guy wanted to play the game more than just about anybody. He would play in all areas of the ice, and muck and grind when need be

- jak521


lets hang out
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
lets hang out
- Crimsoninja

Ok. Does my pure and complete hatred of anything "Kim Johnson" change anything?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:41 PM ET


Lindros may possibly be (as someone said earlier) a once in a lifetime combination of skill and size. He could do anything.. and unfortunately only concussions could stop him.. and they did.

- jak521


This is it in a nutshell. No player brought this combination of skill and sheer menace that Lindros did. He could score with anyone, pass with anyone, skate with anyone, and fight with anyone.

He was scary like no other player in the history of the game as far as I am concerned.


Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
Ok. Does my pure and complete hatred of anything "Kim Johnson" change anything?
- jak521

never heard of him
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ok. Does my pure and complete hatred of anything "Kim Johnson" change anything?
- jak521


don't think that will be a problem.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
never heard of him
- Crimsoninja

he's that guy in the... oh nvm
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:53 PM ET
never heard of him
- Crimsoninja

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 2:56 PM ET

- phi1671

no, that's kim johnsson
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
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Mar 30 @ 2:58 PM ET
hmmmm
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:02 PM ET
hmmmm
- phi1671



ohhh yeah.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
never heard of him
- Crimsoninja

shoot. F-ing double S
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
Let's go Blue Jays!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
shoot. F-ing double S
- jak521


wish the swedes were consistent with their double S
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:06 PM ET
Why can't Canada get their act together for their 2 most storied franchises? Montreal and Toronto are sloppy messes. Either the coach can't speak french or he can't draft but never both. It's too bad - I'd like to see how wild those 2 franchises can be when their teams are playoff bound.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:07 PM ET
Eagles LT Jason Peters will undergo surgery April 2 for a ruptured Achilles suffered in a recent workout.

Good News for Eagles fans.

- stveshdy


The good news for Peters is, he's only carrying 350+ pounds, if he were a heavy man it would make this injury all the more difficult to come back from.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:08 PM ET
ohhh yeah.
- Don'tForgetTocchet



almost to the finish line...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 3:08 PM ET
The good news for Peters is, he's only carrying 350+ pounds, if he were a heavy man it would make this injury all the more difficult to come back from.
- PLindbergh31



i was thinking the same thing...if he was any bigger, he would be in a world of hurt right now...
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 30 @ 3:13 PM ET
The good news for Peters is, he's only carrying 350+ pounds, if he were a heavy man it would make this injury all the more difficult to come back from.
- PLindbergh31



rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
wish the swedes were consistent with their double S
- OrangeBlack27


...........and N's too.
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