what are you talking about?

their only first round pick (that they themselves drafted) in their lineup is JVR

and he's hardly the difference maker on the team
- Dozzer

ROOOOOO

COUUTS

what are you talking about?

their only first round pick (that they themselves drafted) in their lineup is JVR

and he's hardly the difference maker on the team
- Dozzer

That's technically true. But they were rebuilt through draft picks Carter and Richards, who they then flipped for more first rounders. Kind of a wash, in the end. Still a bunch of first round draft picks.

I do remember, actually. Was trying to repress that down inside actually. Thanks for bringing that up again. It was FUGLY, wasn't it. A little Freddy Boimstruck action on the D, a little Stew Gavin forecheck up front, got yer Jiri Cihra between the pipes. Good times!
- triggermartin

in that light nowadays really dont seem all that bad!

courtnall for kordic

Thats what the Caps thought this year - bubble team with Vokoun in net
And WSH is a perceived better team than the Leafs - not sure Vokoun is the answer
- MTL1

Vokoun clearly isn't the problem, if anything he's held the team together while they've all been on vacation. Take a look at Vokoun, such an awesome underrated goalie. He plays great even on crap teams, FLA, Nashville, and now the Caps when they aren't playing in front of him. Vokoun would clearly be the answer, a veteran presence for Reimer and the club.

Brett Lawrie IS A CANADIAN BEAST!!!!



- faceto27

Fixed.

That's technically true. But they were rebuilt through draft picks Carter and Richards, who they then flipped for more first rounders. Kind of a wash, in the end. Still a bunch of first round draft picks.
- triggermartin

and burke has overseen three drafts.. and has 3 first rounders to his credit

people tend to forget that

ROOOOOO

COUUTS
- AdamFrench

you drunk again?

I hear ya, but Kadri was drafted 3 YEARS AGO!!! At some point you need to bring these players (1st round picks) in to see if they can hang with "the big boys" for an extended period of time.

How does giving Kadri 2 or 3 games at a time with the Leafs help?

How does playing with practically CAREER AHLer's like Zigomanis, Dupuis and Finger and a bunch of other guys who will NEVER even get a shot help?

The fact that Dupuis has played 30 games versus Kadri's 21 games is a fu
ckin' disgrace!
- As_I_See_It

Go look at all teams in the NHL who have been above average for the past 10+ years...and tell me how many 21 year olds are playing full time who have been given a few chances and cant seemingly get it together. He was brought down to improve his play, and hasnt gotten there yet. There was no one within the top6 that he was "outplaying" and the only call ups were for 3rd/4th line guys which Kadri could not play.

So...more development with the Marlies, who are doing well, was the best choice.

Kari scored on that shootout...... caused us a point.

That is in direct violation of the current plan......... demotion was inevitable
- faceto27

See....Kadri obv cant figure it out.

Go look at all teams in the NHL who have been above average for the past 10+ years...and tell me how many 21 year olds are playing full time who have been giving a few chances and cant seemingly get it together. He was brought down to improve his play, and hasnt gotten there yet. There was no one within the top6 that he was "outplaying" and the only call ups were for 3rd/4th line guys which Kadri could not play.

So...more development with the Marlies, who are doing well, was the best choice.
- noename09

By many accounts, including Dallas Eakins, Kadri is simply not strong enough to play in the NHL, and his work ethic in getting there has been....questionable.

you drunk again?
- Dozzer

Couturier and Giroux

Touche. Tank Nation NEEDS to happen!

Perhaps Kadri, Colborne and maybe even Hamilton AKA "FRESH BLOOD" should have been brought in in mid February when it was painfully obvious that the Leafs were starting to slide can could have used a spark from a couple of the younger guys.
- As_I_See_It

Id rather not ruin them....

and burke has overseen three drafts.. and has 3 first rounders to his credit

people tend to forget that
- Dozzer

Oh, I haven't forgotten. I'm just not thrilled with who those picks are.

Go look at all teams in the NHL who have been above average for the past 10+ years...and tell me how many 21 year olds are playing full time who have been giving a few chances and cant seemingly get it together. He was brought down to improve his play, and hasnt gotten there yet. There was no one within the top6 that he was "outplaying" and the only call ups were for 3rd/4th line guys which Kadri could not play.

So...more development with the Marlies, who are doing well, was the best choice.
- noename09

By many accounts, including Dallas Eakins, Kadri is simply not strong enough to play in the NHL, and his work ethic in getting there has been....questionable.
- triggermartin

So to go back about 20 pages when everyone said why hasnt Kadri played more....and I asked what has he done to derserve time with the big club?....

- AdamFrench

This post is in direct violation of the very first line of my post. Good day to you!

The Leafs need to sign Vokoun during the offseason, with him alone, we'd instantly win 20-30 more games.
- ThePresident

With a more defensive system, yes...with Wilson's system? no

So to go back about 20 pages when everyone said why hasnt Kadri played more....and I asked what has he done to derserve time with the big club?....
- noename09

Yes, I'm agreeing with you.

Couturier and Giroux
- AdamFrench

8th overall - 25 points

and

22nd overall - 85 points


hmmm.. interesting

I think this idea to eliminate the penny is just pure genious!!

Anyone else!?!?!

Yes, I'm agreeing with you.
- triggermartin

seemingly the only one for some reason

just cause kadri was drafted high, he deserves the time with the Leafs. Theres no sense in giving him more time to get his sheit together and work on his game while playing for a winning team!...naaaah....pull him up early and let him play for a losing Leafs club, thatll fix em!!

The Leafs need to sign Vokoun during the offseason, with him alone, we'd instantly win 20-30 more games.
- ThePresident

God I hope for the sake of the rest of my day, this was pure sarcasm!!

With a more defensive system, yes...with Wilson's system? no
- JIMI-JAMES

I think so, I mean look at the guys save percentage, its not like he's been Marty Brodeur facing 10-15 shots a night for the last 15 years. He has seen a lot of action in front of him, and responds well to it.

8th overall - 25 points

and

22nd overall - 85 points


hmmm.. interesting
- Dozzer

Couturier is their best penalty killer and 18, amazing young player.

This post is in direct violation of the very first line of my post. Good day to you!
- noename09

3 years