Holy shit, what has half of the damn team done to "deserve" playing on the Leafs?!?!?!

I'd rather have Kadri playing on the Leafs before:
- Armstrong
- Connolly
- Lombardi
- Rosehill
- PHILIPPE DUPUIS who played 30 games!!!

At least Kadri brings some creativity, a little grit and is great in the shootout!
- As_I_See_It

Eakins has done wonders for Kadri from what I have heard.

Kadri will be in the lineup all next season, keep in mind Wilson was not a kadri fan.

No, but we have loads of average prospects!
- triggermartin

When he took over we ZERO prospects, so yes that is progress

5g being up and down this year over 20 some odd games - if u extrapolate that - with consistent minutes, routine etc - he would have hit 20 this year
- MTL1

Plus he hits for a skinny kid, goes to net, he is fisty, draws penalties, and his best assest (his creativity) hasn't even been used yet because he played with Lombardi and Crabb.
Kadri is a passer first type player.

ok bud, let me ask you this...do you think seguin would be the player he is in Boston if he played in Toronto?

choose your words wisely!
- big_dion

No, he would not. But he is a franchise, core player to build around. Kessel will never be that player. Oh, and the whole Dougie Hamilton Jared Knight part, too. Yeah.

Um........Seguin?
- triggermartin

wtf does one current NHL player have to do with franchise prospect depth?

and i asked for 9 teams you feel have better overall prospect depth than the leafs.

next time try answering the question instead of rhyming off the ol tried and true seguin comment thanks

He has essentially admited so........ he fired Wilson, that was Part One

Part Two, is this summer
- faceto27

He hasn't done sh!t.
Firing wilson was nothing, 2 weeks after he did that, he had a press conference saying that he believed in this team and they would turn it around. You could tell it was BS then.....and it most certainly is now.
Time for him to be honest and face the music.

Oh I do.
But it's nothing to brag about or stand behind.
If they were young high end talent...than sure.
But their average talent with a couple of bright spots that may or may not pan out.
So their young question marks....great....how many years do we stand behind "this is the _ youngest team in the league".
- Fakepartofme

dammit man.. how fast do you think a rebuild should go?

its a 5 or 6 year process.. burke just finished year three

Eakins has done wonders for Kadri from what I have heard.

Kadri will be in the lineup all next season, keep in mind Wilson was not a kadri fan.
- big_dion

Cause he told you this personally?

When he took over we ZERO prospects, so yes that is progress
- faceto27

Pal, YOU could have loaded us up with average prospects. Do you make $4 million a year?

Eakins has done wonders for Kadri from what I have heard.

Kadri will be in the lineup all next season, keep in mind Wilson was not a kadri fan.
- big_dion

Yeah, my wife's brother lifts with Kadri's Cuz and I guess Kadri chirped Wilson a couple of years ago.. which probably didn't help.

the majority of Burke's draft picks are still playing junior hockey...... Jesus
- faceto27

i know.. people want to rebuild and not trade away prospect depth then when the leafs do just that they complain they arent competitive enough

and let me guess someone will reference the "not interested in the 5 year rebuild" comment next..

the naysayers are horribly predictable

help me Dozzer....theres too many of them to take on for one guy!!!
- noename09

Here's the Help:

2008/2009 Toronto Marlies Roster:

Centres:

Kris Newbury - Currently plays for the Connecticut Whale of the American Hockey League (AHL)
Boyd Devereaux - Not Playing
Darryl Boyce - Currently playing for Columbus
Alex Foster - Currently playing with HC Sparta Praha of the Czech Extraliga
Max Taylor - Not playing
Andre Deveaux - Currently plays for the Connecticut Whale of the American Hockey League (AHL)
Mark Bell - Currently plays with the Anaheim Ducks of the National Hockey League

Left Wingers:

Ryan Hamilton - Currently plays on the Colorado Rockies
Stefano Giliati - Currently playing with the Bolzano-Bozen Foxes of the Italian Serie A
Bates Battaglia - Currently plays for Karlskrona HK of the Swedish Division 1
Jiri Tlusty - Currently Plays for Carolina

Right Wingers:

Brent Aubin - Not playing
Ben Ondrus - Currently plays for the Oklahoma City Barons of the American Hockey League (AHL)
Kyle Rogers - Currently plays for the Toledo Walleye of the ECHL

Defencemen:

Phil Oreskovic - Currently playing for the Hershey Bears of the American Hockey League (AHL)
Todd Perry - Not Playing
Jaime Sifers - Currently playing for Adler Mannheim of the Deutsche Eishockey Liga (DEL)
Staffan Kronwall - Currently plays for for Severstal Cherepovets of the Kontinental Hockey League
Juha Uotila - Currently plays for Pelicans of the SM-liiga
Joe Ryan - Currently playing for the Toledo Walleye of the ECHL
Richard Petiot - Not Playing

Goaltenders:

Adam Munro - Currently playing for Szekesfehervar of the EBEL in Austria
Justin Pogge - Currently the backup for the Pirates

dammit man.. how fast do you think a rebuild should go?

its a 5 or 6 year process.. burke just finished year three
- Dozzer

oh ya for sure...I completely agree and would have been on board with that.

But that wasn't Burke's plan and you know it.
That's the point.

Pal, YOU could have loaded us up with average prospects. Do you make $4 million a year?
- triggermartin

And how much do you make as an NHL scout?

What do you expect to happen this summer? What IS the plan? Part 2?
- triggermartin

There will be changes to the line up

At least he has a plan, all i hear from you is female dog female dog female dog female dog

Cause he told you this personally?
- Fakepartofme

yes, as a matter of fact he did.

wtf does one current NHL player have to do with franchise prospect depth?

and i asked for 9 teams you feel have better overall prospect depth than the leafs.

next time try answering the question instead of rhyming off the ol tried and true seguin comment thanks
- Dozzer

Why bother, he is Mr. Hindsight with no ideas

wtf does one current NHL player have to do with franchise prospect depth?

and i asked for 9 teams you feel have better overall prospect depth than the leafs.

next time try answering the question instead of rhyming off the ol tried and true seguin comment thanks
- Dozzer

It's been 4 years for Burke. We have missed the playoffs every year (and the 3 years before that), and we have not even 1 blue chip core prospect that he (or his predecessors) have drafted. That is fact, my friend. Don't tell me about depth. What we have is prospect width - lots of average prospects.

And it is considering his plan....thats what you guys dont get.
If Burke had said, we are going to build properly so we are going to have 4 years of being low in the standings....than no problem. That's the plan.

But it wasn't

It was the opposite, gonna rebuild and make forward strides at the same time.
The rebuild is taking baby steps forward...that's good.....but the forward strides with the team....that has completely failed.

So according to what Burke has so stubbornly stood by....14th place.....is a massive failure.
- Fakepartofme

its funny, because if the Leafs had a legit goalie this year, we could have very well made the playoffs and the exact same roster would have been considred MUCH better....

Yeah, my wife's brother lifts with Kadri's Cuz and I guess Kadri chirped Wilson a couple of years ago.. which probably didn't help.
- HipHopisDead

Part of the reason Kadri isn't in the NHL has a lot to do with him chirping everyone else who is obviously the problem. It isn't a secret. Its been the issue with him all along, even in junior, and might never stop being the issue.

Pal, YOU could have loaded us up with average prospects. Do you make $4 million a year?
- triggermartin

Are we talking about what I declare or what I actually make??

Ohh yeah much better... didn't Toronto get 3points out of 4 last week with Kadri in the lineup and weren't they playing okay in January with Kadri in the lineup.

If Frattin played such a good checking role why did we give up 7 goals last night and just keep on getting smoked for the last 2 months with Frattin in the lineup? I'm not blaming it all on Frattin but if Frattin was as good as someone like Bolland/J. Stall/Dupuis as a 3rd line checker, things would be different.
- HipHopisDead

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!!

The Leafs are NOWHERE NEAR deep enough, ESPECIALLY AT CENTER that they should be turning their noses up at Kadri.

I'm not saying Kadri is the Leafs' Saviour or any BS like that, but Cherry was BANG ON when he said that the Leafs have mishandled Kadri.

There will be changes to the line up

At least he has a plan, all i hear from you is female dog female dog female dog female dog
- faceto27

Alright, Kreskin, what's the plan?

No, he would not. But he is a franchise, core player to build around. Kessel will never be that player. Oh, and the whole Dougie Hamilton Jared Knight part, too. Yeah.
- triggermartin

Is he now? Thats amazing you can tell that at this point.

Yeah, my wife's brother lifts with Kadri's Cuz and I guess Kadri chirped Wilson a couple of years ago.. which probably didn't help.
- HipHopisDead

cant blame him, i would have chirped him too.

leafs problem with kadri is that he has been so mismanaged.