I have seniority , muhahhaha.
- LeafMan

Meh ...most here recognize he's talented but overpaid by a bit ...that's the only reason he was available.

The growing problem, atleast for me, is that he seems like a bit too much of an d-bag. He's shut it down ....his interviews are, and have always been, terrible ....and he seems to pick his spots to be a 'tough guy' a little too much. He's got a running fued with Hartnell, the other teams leader, and instead of targetting him all night he tries to pick a fight with a 20 year old ...the brother of your teamate ...questionable decision at best.

He can be a player ...but god is he NOT what you want in a captain, IMHO.
- The Law

So if Phaneuf and Luke are on the ice at the same time.......... And Phaneuf and Brayden get into a scrap, and Phaneuf is totally cleaning his clock, what would Luke do?? Help his little bro??

Interesting little quandry for Luke

Within 3 years Calgary will be drafting top 5 and Edmonton will be drafting bottom 15
- JIMI-JAMES

Yeah okay buddy! And what? The Leafs will have a cup by then too?

I miss the days without a Cap....... at least we could try to buy all the players we wanted then

But as you have put it........ that is the sad truth. Stay the course Burke

Or you can always trade for saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay....... Ryan Getzlaf



- faceto27

What are you going to trade for Getzlaf that wont further hinder your development? IMO you should do what the Flyers did and take Kessel and Phaneuf and deal them for young guys you can rebuild around and start putting your high draft picks to work for you, not Boston... Oh and get a real goatender.

Reality:

New management took over 4 years ago promising to build a perennial contender in less than 5 years by eliminating a culture of entitlement amongst the players, using the financial might of ownership to acquire players other teams can't afford, and trading 2 extremely valuable draft picks for a young supposedly franchise player, who turned out to be a one-dimensional (albeit extremely effective) complimentary piece.

Four years later and every contending team has a core of franchise players, of which the Leafs have next to nothing. The best way, under the salary cap system, is to acquire potential franchise players with lottery draft picks because your team controls their rights at relatively low cap hits for up to 9 seasons. Once the Leafs start acquiring this potential core (starting this June), we'll have something to be positive about.
- 1979AD

this discussion is just getting old....lets leave it at this.

I think we can all agree that the Leafs had NOTHING when they took over, and atleast we can say they are moving in a better direction now and have added prospects(regardless of how you feel about them) to the once empty cupboards.

Its been bumpy, and I can see more bumps ahead, but alteast theyve been making much better decisions over the last 2-3 years than we've seen for 10+......cool?

I have seniority , muhahhaha.
- LeafMan

i'll go make coffee boss

So if Phaneuf and Luke are on the ice at the same time.......... And Phaneuf and Brayden get into a scrap, and Phaneuf is totally cleaning his clock, what would Luke do?? Help his little bro??

Interesting little quandry for Luke
- faceto27

If I'm Luke I grab the nearest Flyer ....imagine that he's Dion ...and then beat the poop out of him.

...except Luke doesn't win fights

- whipper334

The ruling on the field stands.

Still behaving yourself 'whipper,

Lupul only got "hurt" when Carlyle took over, ending his almost perfect season under a different coach.

He requests a trade, he goes to the Devils with Schenn + for Parise, who signs here for life.

Everyone fine with that?

Ok.
- noename09

Yeah, Let's move Lupul and Schenn for a UFA....

i'll go make coffee boss
- Dozzer

Double, double,

this discussion is just getting old....lets leave it at this.

I think we can all agree that the Leafs had NOTHING when the took over, and atleast we can say they are moving in a better direction now and have added prospects(regardless of how you feel about them) to the once empty cupboards.

Its been bumpy, and I can see more bumps ahead, but alteast theyve been making much better decisions over the last 2-3 years than we've seen for 10+......cool?
- noename09

I think the problem is your prospects arent good enough to hope for them to be stars in the future, but your team isnt bad enough that you will get Edmonton or Pittsburg picks for like 5 years straight.

Blow the team up and start from scratch with someone that can build a team, not someone that is going to rush a rebuild...

The ruling on the field stands.

Still behaving yourself 'whipper,
- LeafMan

For the most part...

this discussion is just getting old....lets leave it at this.

I think we can all agree that the Leafs had NOTHING when they took over, and atleast we can say they are moving in a better direction now and have added prospects(regardless of how you feel about them) to the once empty cupboards.

Its been bumpy, and I can see more bumps ahead, but alteast theyve been making much better decisions over the last 2-3 years than we've seen for 10+......cool?
- noename09

Agreed!

If I'm Luke I grab the nearest Flyer ....imagine that he's Dion ...and then beat the poop out of him.

...except Luke doesn't win fights
- The Law

Yeah poor Luke doesn't know how to fight

LUKE.....

Strong like bull

Dumb like ox

Double, double,
- LeafMan

it would be easier if you'd just switch to black

Double, double,
- LeafMan

Werd up LeafMan ....back just in time for re-rebuild. I'm told the demoralizing slump coincided with your departure ....so maybe you should stay away for 4 more games? ...just a thought.

Yeah poor Luke doesn't know how to fight

LUKE.....

Strong like bull

Dumb like ox
- faceto27

ME STRONG LIKE BULL AND SMART LIKE OTHER ANIMAL THAT DOESNT COME TO MIND

Yeah poor Luke doesn't know how to fight

LUKE.....

Strong like bull

Dumb like ox
- faceto27

You probally could have had JVR for Schenn and a draft pick before Homer made the move for Grossmann and Kubina.

Lupul only got "hurt" when Carlyle took over, ending his almost perfect season under a different coach.

He requests a trade, he goes to the Devils with Schenn + for Parise, who signs here for life.

Everyone fine with that?

Ok. []
- noename09

Lou and Zack are coming to Mtl

people dont understand sometimes that their opinion is solely based on perspective

so the wider you allow your persepctive to be, the more valid your view point is.

i mean a good analogy would be driving a car in the winter with the windshield frosted over.. and you only took the time to scrape away one square foot directly in front of your face. you are unable to see the whole picture.. therefore whats relative to your viewpoint remains hidden from your perspective.
- Dozzer

exactly! i realize there are negatives to this team, with the fact that everyone in our top 9 is a soft player (other then frattin and ashton, but i think frattin started the game on the 4th line) but there are positives too (schenn is becoming more patient with the puck and making better first passes out of the zone, gardiner has been great for us). we need more team toughness. we need a real crash and bang 3rd line. with ashton and frattin/ross next year, we only need a real 3rd line banging center (steckel just isnt good enough for 3rd line). I guy to play 3rd line could be jarrett stoll and paul gaustad. but we still need a #1C (lupul can still be the crash and bang forward) and we need 2 guys to play 2nd line with grabo (kadri could be one, if he adds some weight he might be able to stick) and i dont want macarthur anymore. maybe kulemin comes back hard and can be that 2nd liner he was when he scored 30 goals (even if he gets 25 i'd be happy).

the defense is the toughest part. even if we add schultz, hes not a hitter and our d will still be soft other then schenn (i havent seen a big hit from phaneuf in i dont even know how long). a soft d wouldnt be so bad in the west, but when you have to play boston 6 times and philly 3-4 times, those are 10 games we will get dominated in.

guys i think need to be traded
Franson
Macarthur
Connolly
Armstrong
Lombardi
Komisarek

O, and add a vet goalie. Maybe if Calgary decides to do a proper rebuild we can add kipper. that's my rant for today, unless i get bored later lol

And the rebuild in Edmonton is going oh so well.
- whipper334

They have a plan, and are sticking to it.

Sucks having all this young talent I tell ya... wish we could finish 10th again!

Yeah poor Luke doesn't know how to fight

LUKE.....

Strong like bull

Dumb like ox
- faceto27

His summer assignment is simple ....work on the feet (skating) and hands (fighting).

Werd up LeafMan ....back just in time for re-rebuild. I'm told the demoralizing slump coincided with your departure ....so maybe you should stay away for 4 more games? ...just a thought.
- The Law

I got that memo that Frenchie was circulating.

I can stay away for 4 more games, I'm like a hockey camel, I have enough hockey stored away for a while.

I got that memo that Frenchie was circulating.

I can stay away for 4 more games, I'm like a hockey camel, I have enough hockey stored away for a while.
- LeafMan

Excellent ...nothing personal ...now get the hell out of here!

They have a plan, and are sticking to it.

Sucks having all this young talent I tell ya... wish we could finish 10th again!


- robin_steele264

Edmonton really needs to take some d-men with thier picks... Nice to have all those awesome future star players, but Defense and Goaltending is the hardest thing to get in the NHL... You should be going after that with your picks...