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riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
They're not a not for profit company. They broadcast the Leafs because that's what people want to watch.
- 1979AD

How many Leaf fans are enjoying watching the leafs at the moment?

If you could forget about the last 2 months, woud you?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:35 AM ET
Oh ya, blame Wilson... I forgot about that... Obviously it was Wilson that is still screwing up the team... Before the Wilson firing they were still blaming JFJ... They need to target someone who is still in the organization... maybe some of the players...

What would be balsy for Carlyle is to put Dion and Kessel in the pressbox for a couple games

- riceroni


JFJ we can blame for a while yet.

he killed us for 10 years.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:36 AM ET
We won't... don't worry...

I wasn't trying to troll... I was just saying that the leafs organization needs to stop living in the past...

- riceroni


I'd be worried. Your team has a history of first round sweeps.

mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:36 AM ET
How many Leaf fans are enjoying watching the leafs at the moment?

If you could forget about the last 2 months, woud you?

- riceroni


No.

The agony now will make the ventualy cup (hopefully ) all the sweeter
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
"DL" day, April 8th at 8pm et, TSN
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
lol @ that big essay on the last page that nobody read or responded to.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
Says a moderator of a hockey blog site!
Just kidding.

But seriously, I'm just realistic.
Something you people should try.
I've never seen such a pathetic group of people....one minute you are loving this team; they're making the playoffs, you dont want to trade anyone because they have so much potential (or you want to trade spart parts for superstars) and they will be great in 5 - 8 years, our only downfall is the coach, we cant wait for them to make their post allstar run blah blah blah......meanwhile...every other hockey fan (ones without blue goggles) are telling you ...no...you're not that good, your players aren't that good, your blinded, wake up....
Grrrrr you say.... they're trolls and are only "hating".

Then

The inevitable losing streak happens.
OMG the world is grumbling. This team is so bad blah blah blah something must be done.

The coach is fired. Ok the team is saved....they will turn it around...here we go.

The team plummets even more.
Well that's ok...new system....they'll turn it around...Schenn will be star under this new system, the goalies will look better, the D will be better blah blah blah.

They plummet even more.....well they must throwing it.....it's too much of a coincidence...they are doing it on purpose...something seems suspicious....of course a week or so ago, there was this big blog about how players never tank.....blah blah blah....but now it must be on purpose.

So now it's, yes we want to lose...just so you dont look like fools.......again....for another season.

I'm not hating....but facts are facts.
It's the same old noise every year.
Its fun to watch and read dont get me wrong...I do get a kick out it....very groundhog day-ish.
But now that I've stepped back from Leaf nation to view it from a different perpective...I see what everyone else has for oh so many years....and it makes me smile.
So keep up the good work guys!

- Fakepartofme


Congrats on not being a part of that. Oh wait you were/are.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
I'd be worried. Your team has a history of first round sweeps.
- 1979AD


OHHHHH

ZING!
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:39 AM ET
No.

The agony now will make the ventualy cup (hopefully ) all the sweeter

- mfreedman

Make the playoffs first....
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:40 AM ET
Congrats on not being a part of that. Oh wait you were/are.
- 1979AD


remove your post, quick! LOL

that guys the definition of D bag.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
Make the playoffs first....
- riceroni


if u guys removed crusty the clown or SSSSsssssspezzzzsszzzszza from your team id cheer for you first round, sadly thats not the case!
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:41 AM ET
its great man, honestly i never read the books but the wifey did, and i loved it, she said she liked it a lot but they sort of fast track through some things - but hey, who can sit through a 10 hour movie?!

i give it a 9.5/10

- big_dion


Wow - you only gave the Twilight series a 9.2/10. HG must be really good!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
Says a moderator of a hockey blog site!
Just kidding.

But seriously, I'm just realistic.
Something you people should try.
I've never seen such a pathetic group of people....one minute you are loving this team; they're making the playoffs, you dont want to trade anyone because they have so much potential (or you want to trade spart parts for superstars) and they will be great in 5 - 8 years, our only downfall is the coach, we cant wait for them to make their post allstar run blah blah blah......meanwhile...every other hockey fan (ones without blue goggles) are telling you ...no...you're not that good, your players aren't that good, your blinded, wake up....
Grrrrr you say.... they're trolls and are only "hating".

Then

The inevitable losing streak happens.
OMG the world is grumbling. This team is so bad blah blah blah something must be done.

The coach is fired. Ok the team is saved....they will turn it around...here we go.

The team plummets even more.
Well that's ok...new system....they'll turn it around...Schenn will be star under this new system, the goalies will look better, the D will be better blah blah blah.

They plummet even more.....well they must throwing it.....it's too much of a coincidence...they are doing it on purpose...something seems suspicious....of course a week or so ago, there was this big blog about how players never tank.....blah blah blah....but now it must be on purpose.

So now it's, yes we want to lose...just so you dont look like fools.......again....for another season.

I'm not hating....but facts are facts.
It's the same old noise every year.
Its fun to watch and read dont get me wrong...I do get a kick out it....very groundhog day-ish.
But now that I've stepped back from Leaf nation to view it from a different perpective...I see what everyone else has for oh so many years....and it makes me smile.
So keep up the good work guys!

- Fakepartofme


all valid points.. and i dont necessarily disagree but you make it sound like every asset the leafs have is garbage.. which.. is simply not true.

they have some very good pieces.. some being under utilized, some being utilized in the wrong roles, and some not being used at all.

you need to understand that in order to have your opinion taken seriously you need to provide a balanced argument and not just "everything is dire, there is nothing of value whatsoever, etc."

you would find people would be far more receptive to your opinions if you took the time to point out some of the positive things you see on the team. Also, as a side note to this.. if you dont see anything positive then you have become jaded and are just as unrealistic as the maple leaf fans who are go "ra ra ra" all the time.

try to be more balanced with what you say and you will find you will garner far more respect
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
all valid points.. and i dont necessarily disagree but you make it sound like every asset the leafs have is garbage.. which.. is simply not true.

they have some very good pieces.. some being under utilized, some being utilized in the wrong roles, and some not being used at all.

you need to understand that in order to have your opinion taken seriously you need to provide a balanced argument and not just "everything is dire, there is nothing of value whatsoever, etc."

you would find people would be far more receptive to your opinions if you took the time to point out some of the positive things you see on the team. Also, as a side note to this.. if you dont see anything positive then you have become as jaded and are just as unrealistic as the maple leaf fans who are go "ra ra ra" all the time.

try to be more balanced with what you say and you will find you will garner far more respect

- Dozzer

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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:42 AM ET
Wow - you only gave the Twilight series a 9.2/10. HG must be really good!
- 1979AD


hahahahahahahahah

u know me!

the big D rating system is tough to crack the 9.3+ - i loved dougie G.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:43 AM ET
We still have a lot of depth in net, but just no anchor (a legit, number one goalie). In hindsight, I regret not resigning Giguere for the $1.25 COL paid at this point; he's having a solid bounce back year, provided veteran presence and leadership, cup winner, etc. etc.

Would've allowed all three guys duke it out for the #1 spot, with the #3 guy (likely Gus) dominating in the AHL with the Marlies, each improving their game and value as a tradeable asset, if that's the direction we go.

Instead, we got two guys who had terrible years, one guy who's likely not fit to be an NHL starter (Gus), the other guy with better upside, but still unsure of himself, eroding the confidence from the net out.

- gravyface


meh...was too risky at the time. Although, less risky than running with Gus and Reimer...but w/e.
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Mar 30 @ 10:43 AM ET
if u guys removed crusty the clown or SSSSsssssspezzzzsszzzszza from your team id cheer for you first round, sadly thats not the case!
- big_dion

How do you hate Spezza? That guy is a TO boy... I ran into him last Sunday morning walking with his wife and baby girl and he was rocking a Jays hat.
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:44 AM ET
I wonder if the CBC will put all the Leafs games on national coverage next year. It would be awesome to give the Habs and Sens and Jets an equal share and make Toronto earn the prime slot again.
- riceroni


Shush you.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:44 AM ET
Congrats on not being a part of that. Oh wait you were/are.
- 1979AD

Never was.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:44 AM ET
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- AdamFrench

I think this ban worthy, let me refer to the HB refs manual. Sec.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
I think this ban worthy, let me refer to the HB refs manual. Sec.
- LeafMan


i just thought he was rambling in russian again
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
How do you hate Spezza? That guy is a TO boy... I ran into him last Sunday morning walking with his wife and baby girl and he was rocking a Jays hat.
- riceroni


True TO boys don't re-sign with the Sens or Habs. Stamkos will never sign with the Sens or Habs.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:46 AM ET
I think this ban worthy, let me refer to the HB refs manual. Sec.
- LeafMan

I've got diplomatic immunity so hammer you can't sue, can't touch this.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
Never was.
- Fakepartofme


Mhmmm after the Leafs pumped the Sens 5-0 on Feb. 6th to snatch the 6th seed you were on here posting: "just wait everyone, they'll lose 15 of their next 17 and threaten a top 5 draft pick, you'll see." If not, you're exactly what you described.
B-Leaf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your mother's house, ON
Joined: 06.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
Here is how to fix the Leafs...

1. Burke, swallow your pride and say your original plan failed but that you have a new plan that will take time but will be a rebuild based on how historically successful teams have done it.

2. Make some trades. Not all these guys but some of them have to be on the block prior to the draft. get prospects and quality picks for...
- Lupul (never going to have a greater value and won't be here / or as effective in 5 years when the Leafs can be a legit contender.
- MacArthur
- Reimer
- Phaneuf
- Kessel

3. Get rid of somehow
- Komiserak
- Army
- Conolley

4. Build around
- Gardiner
- Schenn (will bounce back)
- Frattin
- Kadri
- Gunner
- Biggs
- Percy

5. use the cap space to pitch for Parise and Suter...

6. trade some assets received that don't include your #1 pick for Schneider....

7... be patient...

- riceroni


Kulemin Grabovski Parise
Ashton Bozak Kadri
Lombardi Colborne Frattin
Biggs Steckel Brown

Liles Suter
Gardiner Schenn
Gunner Franson
Percy

Schneider
Scrivens

That should get us MacKinnon!
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