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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
Isn't that what I just said?

My point is pretty simple: They put themselves at a disadvantage in the past by overlooking the Q. Hell, at one point they didn't even have a full-time scout looking at it. It was a mistake.

Edit: I'll make it even clearer. They should scout the Q as much as they do for other leagues. Not less.

- Pecafan Fan

and that's what Savard was saying yesterday. They have the advantage of having the Q in their backyard. Most of the league looks at the Q as a weaker league and some good prospects go out late in the 2nd round when the Habs could grab them early in the 2nd round. Savard was saying it doesn't mean you grab every Q player you can but more like give it a good look before you go draft a kid out of highschool in the US.

Guys like Giroux and Letang were drafted after the Habs picked someone not even close to being as good.
jaymster790
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Elsewhere, QC
Joined: 03.16.2009

Mar 30 @ 12:22 PM ET
A lot of his picks turned out to be pretty good NHLers actually.

not just in Montreal, of course.

- Pecafan Fan

Resulting in GM firings, we never bloody replace the guys we get rid, instead we sign the Bryan Smolinski's of this world, ain't got no depth.
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 12:23 PM ET
scalr makes advertisers leave, not raining unicorns.
- kicksave856


Braidan asked CaptEO about why Yan was deleted.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
We wouldnt be singing this tune had he picked only plumbers through the years..
- PRICEless

they identify team holes well enough and then start to fix it and then trade that asset off or mishandle it or allow some pc bullpoop to get in the way and then gone
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
A lot of his picks turned out to be pretty good NHLers actually.

not just in Montreal, of course.

- Pecafan Fan

Some players dont play well under the microscope and pressure of TO and/or Montreal, a few actually do, but more often than naught most dont. Also, this has a lot to say about the habs as an organization abilities to help their players/prospects progression along.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Braidan asked CaptEO about why Yan was deleted. The End.
- Jayden

i got the same answer.

still think they were just embarrassed by it.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Some players dont play well under the microscope and pressure of TO and/or Montreal, a few actually do, but more often than naught most dont. Also, this has a lot to say about the habs as an organization abilities to help their players/prospects progression along.
- Prolific_Scorer

very true but the Habs overlooked the CHL for a few years, they were focusing on the US college system and Europe.
Apples
Montreal Canadiens
Location: you kiss your own big butt with that mouth?
Joined: 07.05.2008

Mar 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
Chapter 3 : My Nerd Accomplishments
- Jayden

so excited for Chapter 4.
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
i got the same answer.

still think they were just embarrassed by it.

- kicksave856


Thank you for boring the poop out of this.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
capteo blocked the code
I can't make it rain anymore

did you know that Ek and captEO were pissed because the rain made them lose a top banner sponsor? Yan was completely vanished from the site in seconds.

- Jayden


gillings strikes again
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
Some players dont play well under the microscope and pressure of TO and/or Montreal, a few actually do, but more often than naught most dont. Also, this has a lot to say about the habs as an organization abilities to help their players/prospects progression along.
- Prolific_Scorer

exactly. Boucher seemed to be doing well. Habs have $ to spare give him a financial incentive to stay and keep up the good work, same with Muller. These guys are 20 yr old millionaires and they don't help them with the basic life adjustments? Ridiculous.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 30 @ 12:27 PM ET
Some players dont play well under the microscope and pressure of TO and/or Montreal, a few actually do, but more often than naught most dont. Also, this has a lot to say about the habs as an organization abilities to help their players/prospects progression along.
- Prolific_Scorer


The way I understood Molson yesterday, his comments were for the most part an admission of that.

Really surprised me when he said that the habs have sucked for the last 9 years. Thought he'd stick with the "we had a difficult season and had tough decisions to make so we fired Gauthier".

Instead, he got out of his way to take a swing at the Gainey regime too.

Surprsing, yet, refreshing.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:27 PM ET
so excited for Chapter 4.
- Apples

chapter 4 is all about his body and boner



kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 30 @ 12:27 PM ET
Thank you for boring the poop out of this.
- Jayden

my work is done here
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 30 @ 12:27 PM ET
and that's what Savard was saying yesterday. They have the advantage of having the Q in their backyard. Most of the league looks at the Q as a weaker league and some good prospects go out late in the 2nd round when the Habs could grab them early in the 2nd round. Savard was saying it doesn't mean you grab every Q player you can but more like give it a good look before you go draft a kid out of highschool in the US.

Guys like Giroux and Letang were drafted after the Habs picked someone not even close to being as good.

- Symba007


Thanks QP.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
The way I understood Molson yesterday, his comments were for the most part an admission of that.

Really surprised me when he said that the habs have sucked for the last 9 years. Thought he'd stick with the "we had a difficult season and had tough decisions to make so we fired Gauthier".

Instead, he got out of his way to take a swing at the Gainey regime too.

Surprsing, yet, refreshing.

- Pecafan Fan

damn..
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
very true but the Habs overlooked the CHL for a few years, they were focusing on the US college system and Europe.
- Symba007

Worst idea ever.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
The way I understood Molson yesterday, his comments were for the most part an admission of that.

Really surprised me when he said that the habs have sucked for the last 9 years. Thought he'd stick with the "we had a difficult season and had tough decisions to make so we fired Gauthier".

Instead, he got out of his way to take a swing at the Gainey regime too.

Surprsing, yet, refreshing.

- Pecafan Fan

Really with the exception of 1-2 years he's not wrong and a lot of it has to deal with the musical chairs at the mgmt levels.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
exactly. Boucher seemed to be doing well. Habs have $ to spare give him a financial incentive to stay and keep up the good work, same with Muller. These guys are 20 yr old millionaires and they don't help them with the basic life adjustments? Ridiculous.
- Pie

Habs and Leafs don't have a valid reason not to have the best system in place for prospects, they have the money, money they will have to share with other teams as part of profit sharing. (frank)...invest that money in your players development system before you and fund the less fortunate teams like Columbus, Florida, Tampa...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
exactly. Boucher seemed to be doing well. Habs have $ to spare give him a financial incentive to stay and keep up the good work, same with Muller. These guys are 20 yr old millionaires and they don't help them with the basic life adjustments? Ridiculous.
- Pie


I think veterans should play a large role in this as well. Look at brière in Philly who took Giroux under his wing, and now Couturier.
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
chapter 4 is all about his body and boner
- Crimsoninja


Paul wrote an entire book on the subject.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
my work is done here
- kicksave856

PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
they identify team holes well enough and then start to fix it and then trade that asset off or mishandle it or allow some pc bullpoop to get in the way and then gone
- Pie


Hopefully the prospect management will improve with the departure of Gainey and Gauthier.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Mar 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
my work is done here
- kicksave856

this is not a spaf thread
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 12:30 PM ET
Hopefully the prospect management with improve with the departure of Gainey and Gauthier.
- PRICEless


Amen
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