Be reminded that, not only am i not one of Price's biggest critics, but also a Halak fan. And i was pissed we even drafted him in the 5th position, instead of say a big point getting center like Kopitar. There are still good goalies that can be found later on in the draft, 1st line center who can put up points, not so much.
- Prolific_Scorer

A lot of teams are looking for that exact player. Big/strong scoring center.

Realistically Patche has only been playing like he's able since last year. Its unfair to compare Pacioretty's 2 years as a 3rd / 4th liner to Perron's 2 years as a 1st line winger.
- PRICEless

Who's being a homer now. I give you stats you give me excuses. If Pac had been good enough they would have played him on the first line off the bat.

They are both very good young player, Perron is better.

It would have been hard to be upset over either player getting drafted. I do like that Pacioretty will crash a little harder.
- Pie

Both players are good drafts for their respective teams, i think everyone can agree on that.

Pacioretty hasnt been hitting as much since his suspension.

Who's being a homer now. I give you stats you give me excuses. If Pac had been good enough they would have played him on the first line off the bat.

They are both very good young player, Perron is better.
- Fredobbface

They are different players. Nobody is better.

Both players are good drafts for their respective teams, i think everyone can agree on that.

Pacioretty hasnt been hitting as much since his suspension.
- PRICEless

He hasn't but he's been smarter with the puck. Cole has been the perfect role model for him.

I don't see why they would put themselves at a disadvantage by not scouting the other leagues extensively. However, putting more effort in scouting "home grown talent" can become an advantage if the other teams are overlooking the Q.


And by "home grown", I mean players in the Q. Grigorenko, Frk and such are included even if they are not "pure-laine".
- Pecafan Fan

Is the Q scouted less than a league like the WHL?

I don't see why they would put themselves at a disadvantage by not scouting the other leagues extensively. However, putting more effort in scouting "home grown talent" can become an advantage if the other teams are overlooking the Q.


And by "home grown", I mean players in the Q. Grigorenko, Frk and such are included even if they are not "pure-laine".
- Pecafan Fan

If you dont understand why scouting one league extensively over the other can be an issue, i honestly dont know what to tell you. Other then it works in cycles, one league producing better top end talent than the other, and if you are ignoring other leagues to scout one over the other then in most years ( years that the talent level is better in the other leagues) that leaves you at serious disadvantage.

Who's being a homer now. I give you stats you give me excuses. If Pac had been good enough they would have played him on the first line off the bat.

They are both very good young player, Perron is better.
- Fredobbface

Pacioretty is currently having a better season than Perron has ever had, if you wanna talk about numbers.

OH and sure, the habs always knock vets off their comfy top line spot to make room for youth, that's a well-known fact.

A lot of teams are looking for that exact player. Big/strong scoring center.
- thomas81

Yup, twas my point exactly.

If you dont understand why scouting one league extensively over the other can be an issue, i honestly dont know what to tell you. Other then it works in cycles, one league producing better top end talent than the other, and if you are ignoring other leagues to scout one over the other then in most years ( years that the talent level is better in the other leagues) that leaves you at serious disadvantage.
- Prolific_Scorer

I think thats what he was saying.

Is the Q scouted less than a league like the WHL?
- RENATO6

Only in QP's mind, and others like him. Not sure why they wish to believe this, or the french media either for that matter.

Where is Perezoghin?

I think thats what he was saying.
- Pie

I must have read it differently than you did.

Only in QP's mind, and others like him. Not sure why they wish to believe this, or the french media either for that matter.
- Prolific_Scorer

The Habs don't cover the Q enough. They admitted so.

Where is Perezoghin?
- -xXx-

KHL.

I must have read it differently than you did.
- Prolific_Scorer

indeed. Sometimes you fixate on the poster more than the post. Everyone does it.

If you dont understand why scouting one league extensively over the other can be an issue, i honestly dont know what to tell you. Other then it works in cycles, one league producing better top end talent than the other, and if you are ignoring other leagues to scout one over the other then in most years ( years that the talent level is better in the other leagues) that leaves you at serious disadvantage.
- Prolific_Scorer

Isn't that what I just said?

My point is pretty simple: They put themselves at a disadvantage in the past by overlooking the Q. Hell, at one point they didn't even have a full-time scout looking at it. It was a mistake.

Edit: I'll make it even clearer. They should scout the Q as much as they do for other leagues. Not less.

The Habs don't cover the Q enough. They admitted so.
- Jayden

Does this necessarily mean that the other teams dont? I am not sayin it's a bad idea to scout their own back yard a little more than the other leagues, however getting tunnel vision and only scouting that league as Gainey and company seem to have did with the NCAA could become an issue in off years in talent in the Q.

indeed. Sometimes you fixate on the poster more than the post. Everyone does it.
- Pie

My bad, have it happen to me often too.

Only in QP's mind, and others like him. Not sure why they wish to believe this, or the french media either for that matter.
- Prolific_Scorer

I find it difficult to imagine that one of the major junior leagues is not scouted with a fine tooth comb. I think one of the issues may be they are/were concerned with picking local kids and how they would handle the pressure and media.

Does this necessarily mean that the other teams dont? I am not sayin it's a bad idea to scout their own back yard a little more than the other leagues, however getting tunnel vision and only scouting that league as Gainey and company seem to have did with the NCAA could become an issue in off years in talent in the Q.
- Prolific_Scorer

Nobody said anything about scouting only the Q. You're drunk.

Isn't that what I just said?

My point is pretty simple: They put themselves at a disadvantage in the past by overlooking the Q. Hell, at one point they didn't even have a full-time scout looking at it. It was a mistake.

Edit: I'll make it even clearer. They should scout the Q as much as they do for other leagues. Not less.
- Pecafan Fan

yup. Huge msitake. Doesnt make sense from any point of view. And yes they should.

KHL.
- PRICEless

Kings Hockey League?

Does this necessarily mean that the other teams dont? I am not sayin it's a bad idea to scout their own back yard a little more than the other leagues, however getting tunnel vision and only scouting that league as Gainey and company seem to have did with the NCAA could become an issue in off years in talent in the Q.
- Prolific_Scorer

I'm not sure they over focussed on the NCAA, they scouted the WHL and OHL fairly heavily. I have a bigger issue with their determination of team needs.

Isn't that what I just said?

My point is pretty simple: They put themselves at a disadvantage in the past by overlooking the Q. Hell, at one point they didn't even have a full-time scout looking at it. It was a mistake.

Edit: I'll make it even clearer. They should scout the Q as much as they do for other leagues. Not less.
- Pecafan Fan

Agree if not more... always great to pick a star young player, even better if he is local and that applies to all teams