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desi08
Washington Capitals
Location: Unless any of you plan on discussing the actual hockey topics that I write about, please stay the he, DC
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
No it was not.

However, I'm done talking to you.

- thomas81



we are all him, so you might as well leaf.

Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
No it was not.

However, I'm done talking to you.

- thomas81


Your avatar fits you perfectly.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
Most hab fans problem with this trade is the habs easily gave up the more talented player, and bourque is capable of disappearing for long stretches as well.
- Prolific_Scorer


He's lazy no doubt but I'm willing to bet they can move Bourque in the summer. Big guy who can reach 20+ goals.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
Believe it or not, Price isn't an all-star goaltender. One of you said in the Leafs thread that he was one of the top three goaltenders in the WORLD.

One strong season doesn't make you an elite goaltender. He's above-average. No doubt the team in front of him sucks but look at the terrible goals he's given this year. It happens on a regurlar basis.

- thomas81

Yet, but it is very likely he will be, and is the only real consistent player on a really poopy team. He has won at every level. The team on most nights has left him hung out to dry. He hasnt lost the habs many games this season, on the same token, he hasnt stolen them many either. And im not even a huge Price fan like some.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
No it was not.

However, I'm done talking to you.

- thomas81

How will he survive?
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
He's lazy no doubt but I'm willing to bet they can move Bourque in the summer. Big guy who can reach 20+ goals.
- thomas81

Oh yeah, his value is at an all-time high.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
He's lazy no doubt but I'm willing to bet they can move Bourque in the summer. Big guy who can reach 20+ goals.
- thomas81

I maybe wrong here, but i believe this was PG's thoughts when he traded for Bourque.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:45 AM ET
The Gomez deal speaks for itself. There is no positive spin to it, zero. The Kaberle deal over the term is as bad. I don't mind the Bourque deal, more because of the cap implication and picking up what appears to be a decent overager prospect and a 2nd. Its just not enough to justify the other two trades or more importantly the unprofessional way in which he has dealt with his staff and players.
- Pie

et voila
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
I get it.

You guys don't really know the results of many of those trades. People slam Bourque but I would have done that deal in a second. Cammalleri has a terrible terrible contract.

- thomas81



I was happy that they got rid of that contract but Bourque is a horrible player, you have to trade players when their value is high, not low which is what Gauthier did with Cammalleri.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:46 AM ET
et voila
- dt99999

spank you.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yet, but it is very likely he will be, and is the only real consistent player on a really poopy team. He has won at every level. The team on most nights has left him hung out to dry. He hasnt lost the habs many games this season, on the same token, he hasnt stolen them many either. And im not even a huge Price fan like some.
- Prolific_Scorer


Key words: Likely will be. Goaltenders are pretty much unpredictable in their development. He's got good upside, no doubt.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:47 AM ET
I was happy that they got rid of that contract but Bourque is a horrible player, you have to trade players when their value is high, not low which is what Gauthier did with Cammalleri.
- Rtt19

Would be hard to justify trading him though if it were high as the entire team was doing well when Cammalari did well.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
Richard Labbé ‏ @Richardlabbe
Bon point. RT @Rachid_I: avec le départ de Gainey, qui va faire la promenade dans le vieux port avec les joueurs malheureux?"


Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
I was happy that they got rid of that contract but Bourque is a horrible player, you have to trade players when their value is high, not low which is what Gauthier did with Cammalleri.
- Rtt19

He traded a problem for a problem
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
Key words: Likely will be. Goaltenders are pretty much unpredictable in their development. He's got good upside, no doubt.
- thomas81

Price makes Reimer look like a donkey.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
Oh yeah, his value is at an all-time high.
- _nay_


That's not the point. In a cap world, when you can get a non-desirable contract out the doors, that's an asset.

That's why I said dealing Cammalleri was a good trade. Terrible contract. Doesn't really matter what you get for Bourque even if it's only a 6th rounder.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:48 AM ET
Would be hard to justify trading him though if it were high as the entire team was doing well when Cammalari did well.
- Pie


True.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
Most hab fans problem with this trade is the habs easily gave up the more talented player, and bourque is capable of disappearing for long stretches as well.
- Prolific_Scorer


I'd do that trade again any day, Cammy was done in MTL, got a decent player back and a pick I believe, and that contract was bad, just bad.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
He traded a problem for a problem
- Fredobbface

I don't think Bourque is the prima donna that Cammalari was though.
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
No it was not.

- thomas81


Here.
His name is leafs_wingp.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com...p?thread_id=96936&page=14
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:49 AM ET
He simply said the fact that some NHL teams view the Q as an "inferior league" (even if the Sea Dogs are most likely going to repeat this season and possibly next year too) the Habs should use it at their advantage and make sure they find the best players available in this league.
- Pecafan Fan

This could be either good, or really bad. Like Gainey and company and their constant NCAA boner. To scout one league over the others is rather narrowminded IMO, i understand the need and want for home grown talent, as long as they dont get short sighted and tunnel vision and dont pay enough attention to the other leagues as well.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
I don't think Bourque is the prima donna that Cammalari was though.
- Pie

No but he's lazy and less talented.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:50 AM ET
I'd do that trade again any day, Cammy was done in MTL, got a decent player back and a pick I believe, and that contract was bad, just bad.
- pete26

and Holland looks like he may get a shot at the NHL as well. Overager or not been a while since we had someone get over 100pts in the WHL coming into our system.
Rtt19
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 08.09.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:51 AM ET
No but he's lazy and less talented.
- Fredobbface


and dumb as a rock.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Mar 30 @ 11:51 AM ET
Of all the picks he clearly was the best one. But Perron is still a better player in my mind.
- Fredobbface


How the (frank) is Perron a better player? In hindsight not only can it be said that Pacioretty is a better point-getter but he's also way more resilient. Perron has been on the LITR most of the time whereas Patches took the end of the season and a summer and got back into shape.
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