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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
By the way Savard was mouthing around yesterday, and the fact Molson said it would be important for the new GM to be a great communicator for the fans and media, I would say things are already changing.
- Pecafan Fan



I guess they realised the adoration will not be eternal
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
Did I imply this anywhere?
- thomas81


In comes his assistants/scouts.

Gauthier was the professional scout. So the trades Gainey made, were more than likely upon Gauthier's recommendation.

It's not really hard to figure out.... The 2 guys have been there for the last 9 years, and the team is poop.

Now, both are gone.

thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:34 AM ET
33 Superstars Goalies. St-Louis, Boston, LA and Van got 2. Toronto got 0.
- -xXx-


For sure. Elliot, Rask, Bernier and Schneider are all future membres of the HHOF.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
So I should call an apple an orange just to spare your feelings?
- Pie


It's fine. Insult me if you want.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:35 AM ET
Believe it or not, Price isn't an all-star goaltender. One of you said in the Leafs thread that he was one of the top three goaltenders in the WORLD.

One strong season doesn't make you an elite goaltender. He's above-average. No doubt the team in front of him sucks but look at the terrible goals he's given this year. It happens on a regurlar basis.

- thomas81

I agree Price is not a superstar yet. He's a little bit above-average. I would place in the "good" departement.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:36 AM ET
Did I imply this anywhere?
- thomas81

I believe his point was that he like most GMs rely on their assistants and scouting staff, especially when they arent familiar with the players themselves.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:37 AM ET
You don't think one bit that Brian Elliot is benefiting from Hitchcock's system? I mean come on, you don't go from barely being a back-up to being an All-Star.
- thomas81

Hey, Hitchcock was available right from the start of the season.

And a 1.48 GAA, 943 sv% season can't only be because of the coach.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:37 AM ET
In comes his assistants/scouts.

Gauthier was the professional scout. So the trades Gainey made, were more than likely upon Gauthier's recommendation.

It's not really hard to figure out.... The 2 guys have been there for the last 9 years, and the team is poop.

Now, both are gone.

- Pecafan Fan


I get it.

You guys don't really know the results of many of those trades. People slam Bourque but I would have done that deal in a second. Cammalleri has a terrible terrible contract.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
I agree Price is not a superstar yet. He's a little bit above-average. I would place in the "good" departement.
- Fredobbface


I don't disagree at all.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
It's fine. Insult me if you want.
- thomas81

Excellent.
-xXx-
Location: à la toilette des filles...
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
For sure. Elliot, Rask, Bernier and Schneider are all future membres of the HHOF.
- thomas81

If they play for the Leafs, you guys would be saying they are gods.

Raycroft.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
I get it.

You guys don't really know the results of many of those trades. People slam Bourque but I would have done that deal in a second. Cammalleri has a terrible terrible contract.

- thomas81



Look at the standings. It's really not that hard to figure out the results of those trades.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
In comes his assistants/scouts.

Gauthier was the professional scout. So the trades Gainey made, were more than likely upon Gauthier's recommendation.

It's not really hard to figure out.... The 2 guys have been there for the last 9 years, and the team is poop.

Now, both are gone.

- Pecafan Fan

The best news of the season so far. Kind of a little wary of what Serge Savard has in mind honestly. If he can help the team get better i am all for it, idgaf if he suggests they draft whomever from wherever, speaking whatever.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:38 AM ET
You don't affect me one way or the other. 2 teams duking it out for the basement and you believe its not the GMs fault.
- Pie

more on this please.
desi08
Washington Capitals
Location: Unless any of you plan on discussing the actual hockey topics that I write about, please stay the he, DC
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:39 AM ET
Amateur Scouting: Draft
Professional Scouting: Follow the other teams and identify the pieces you are interested in




They WANTED Gomez... and I still can't believe it.

- Pecafan Fan



Jeff Gorton want McD thrown in on that trade. He was also part of the team that fleeced Toronto for Rask. He is available. I like him. Francos will not.
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 30 @ 11:40 AM ET
Believe it or not, Price isn't an all-star goaltender. One of you said in the Leafs thread that he was one of the top three goaltenders in the WORLD.

One strong season doesn't make you an elite goaltender. He's above-average. No doubt the team in front of him sucks but look at the terrible goals he's given this year. It happens on a regurlar basis.

- thomas81


It was a Leaf fan who said that you (frank)ing idiot.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:40 AM ET
I get it.

You guys don't really know the results of many of those trades. People slam Bourque but I would have done that deal in a second. Cammalleri has a terrible terrible contract.

- thomas81

Most hab fans problem with this trade is the habs easily gave up the more talented player, and bourque is capable of disappearing for long stretches as well.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Mar 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Oh. So you're also one of them.
- thomas81


If you're going to miss the playoffs with a poopty team, might as well lose enough to get a decent draft pick. There's simply no denying this.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
The best news of the season so far. Kind of a little wary of what Serge Savard has in mind honestly. If he can help the team get better i am all for it, idgaf if he suggests they draft whomever from wherever, speaking whatever.
- Prolific_Scorer


He simply said the fact that some NHL teams view the Q as an "inferior league" (even if the Sea Dogs are most likely going to repeat this season and possibly next year too) the Habs should use it at their advantage and make sure they find the best players available in this league.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Jeff Gorton want McD thrown in on that trade. He was also part of the team that fleeced Toronto for Rask. He is available. I like him. Francos will not.
- desi08

thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:41 AM ET
Hey, Hitchcock was available right from the start of the season.

And a 1.48 GAA, 943 sv% season can't only be because of the coach.

- _nay_


I didn't say so.

The system, however, does have an effect of those numbers. When you play a tight defensive game like the Blues, they don't allow very many GOOD scoring chances. I've rarely seen a team so solid it it's own zone. When Halak/Elliot face 25-30 shots, I'd say most of these are from the outside.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
I get it.

You guys don't really know the results of many of those trades. People slam Bourque but I would have done that deal in a second. Cammalleri has a terrible terrible contract.

- thomas81

The Gomez deal speaks for itself. There is no positive spin to it, zero. The Kaberle deal over the term is as bad. I don't mind the Bourque deal, more because of the cap implication and picking up what appears to be a decent overager prospect and a 2nd. Its just not enough to justify the other two trades or more importantly the unprofessional way in which he has dealt with his staff and players.
thomas81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Theres not a single goalie in
Joined: 03.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 11:42 AM ET
It was a Leaf fan who said you (frank)ing idiot.
- Jayden


No it was not.

However, I'm done talking to you.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:43 AM ET
He simply said the fact that some NHL teams view the Q as an "inferior league" (even if the Sea Dogs are most likely going to repeat this season and possibly next year too) the Habs should use it at their advantage and make sure they find the best players available in this league.
- Pecafan Fan

I think it was the case for many years as well though. Good goalies and flashy forwards. I think its also changed quite substantially from 10 years ago.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Mar 30 @ 11:44 AM ET
No it was not.

However, I'm done talking to you.

- thomas81

He's quitting Hockeybuzz anyway haven't you heard?
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