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cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:46 PM ET
I've been saying it for a couple of years now. For whatever reason, NHL franchises in canada are a total mess.
- prock


Too much pressure and the star players don't want that for the most part.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:48 PM ET
A sign of strength no doubt.
- Pie


I never made any insinuation about it meaning success.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:49 PM ET
Too much pressure and the star players don't want that for the most part.
- cburgess


I don't buy that.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:49 PM ET
Too much pressure and the star players don't want that for the most part.
- cburgess

Or just an effect of the economy in the small markets plus the addition of the cap. Its cyclical when all things are even.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:50 PM ET
I never made any insinuation about it meaning success.
- prock

How interesting would it be if Caisse Depot bought it.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:51 PM ET
Or just an effect of the economy in the small markets plus the addition of the cap. Its cyclical when all things are even.
- Pie


Cycles is probably a big factor.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:52 PM ET
I don't buy that.
- prock


you are in the spotlight in Canada. Jonathan Teows in Chicago is backpage news after the Chicago Bears, Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls for example.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:52 PM ET
Cycles is probably a big factor.
- prock

God bless parity.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:53 PM ET
How interesting would it be if Caisse Depot bought it.
- Pie


I would have gotten more of a laugh had they bought the Leafs from the OTPP.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:54 PM ET
you are in the spotlight in Canada. Jonathan Teows in Chicago is backpage news after the Chicago Bears, Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls for example.
- cburgess

It plays a part as was mentioned earlier supporting these kids off ice is as important as on ice and it would seem teams like MTL have failed to provide them withan environment that deals with their unique situation. Van. seems to be ahead in that regard.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 30 @ 10:55 PM ET
Leafs 4 games
BUF
BUF
TB
MTL

Mtl 4 Games

WSH
TB
CAR
TOR

What are the records for their remaining games
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:57 PM ET
Leafs 4 games
BUF
BUF
TB
MTL

Mtl 4 Games

WSH
TB
CAR
TOR

What are the records for their remaining games

- MTL1


0-3 for both and then flip a coin for the habs leafs game
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 30 @ 10:57 PM ET
Holy (frank) sportsnet is weak
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 10:57 PM ET
you are in the spotlight in Canada. Jonathan Teows in Chicago is backpage news after the Chicago Bears, Cubs, White Sox, and Bulls for example.
- cburgess


That's great. But if you're trying to say its because they want to avoid the spotlight, if you take your average twenty something hockey player, I think you'd actually find the majority would love to walk around a canadian city like a hero. Like they dreamed of as a kid. When you've got less than 25% of teams being canadian, I think you would find a bigger proportion than that would be drawn to it.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 10:59 PM ET
That's great. But if you're trying to say its because they want to avoid the spotlight, if you take your average twenty something hockey player, I think you'd actually find the majority would love to walk around a canadian city like a hero. Like they dreamed of as a kid. When you've got less than 25% of teams being canadian, I think you would find a bigger proportion than that would be drawn to it.
- prock


i think you would find a lot of players that just want to play the game and not have to talk to the media about why you haven't scored in 3 games or what you think of the shouting match at practice between plekanek and subban this morning.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 11:00 PM ET
It plays a part as was mentioned earlier supporting these kids off ice is as important as on ice and it would seem teams like MTL have failed to provide them withan environment that deals with their unique situation. Van. seems to be ahead in that regard.
- Pie


Different personalities will prefer or dislike it. Let's say half love it, half don't. 50% of players drawn to just 7 of 30 means a net advantage.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:00 PM ET
0-3 for both and then flip a coin for the habs leafs game
- cburgess


If they both go 0-3 - lets hope the Habs pound the Leafs in the last game of the season at the Bell Centre
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 11:02 PM ET
i think you would find a lot of players that just want to play the game and not have to talk to the media about why you haven't scored in 3 games or what you think of the shouting match at practice between plekanek and subban this morning.
- cburgess


I think you'd find even more 25 year olds that love being huge celebs and banging any broad they want.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:03 PM ET
If they both go 0-3 - lets hope the Habs pound the Leafs in the last game of the season at the Bell Centre
- MTL1


We would have last in the east locked up at that point so why not? haha
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:03 PM ET
Holy (frank) sportsnet is weak
- dt99999

cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:04 PM ET
I think you'd find even more 25 year olds that love being huge celebs and banging any broad they want.
- prock


You don't think claude giroux is doing that in philly without all the media attention?
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:04 PM ET
We would have last in the east locked up at that point so why not? haha
- cburgess


Exactly
and with CGY getting hammered tonight - perfect scenerio - dont want Cammy to get into the playoffs this year
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Mar 30 @ 11:06 PM ET
Exactly
and with CGY getting hammered tonight - perfect scenerio - dont want Cammy to get into the playoffs this year

- MTL1


Haha as bad as immediate future looks like in MTL, atleast we aren't Calgary. They are in big trouble.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 30 @ 11:06 PM ET
Different personalities will prefer or dislike it. Let's say half love it, half don't. 50% of players drawn to just 7 of 30 means a net advantage.
- prock

Of which what % are stellar or worthy of their pay? Meh
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 11:07 PM ET
God bless parity.
- Pie


Well, when you look just pre-lockout (and cap) several of the canadian teams had bigger profits, bigger budgets, and hence, more success. With that advantage gone, things will naturally cycle back around.

I'd have to go back and look at records, but correct me if I'm wrong, both ottawa and vancouver were both coming off a long string of bad years, and in an upswing. Amiright??

And ottawa still couldn't make it last.
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