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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 11:34 PM ET
feel like i read somewhere that he won't hurt it more. just depends on if the swelling is down enough so that it's not too painful.
- OrangeBlack27

He is on a milk diet to strengthen his bones (and teeth and hair).
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:35 PM ET
feel like i read somewhere that he won't hurt it more. just depends on if the swelling is down enough so that it's not too painful.
- OrangeBlack27



so let him rest and elevate it and that will be the best way to reduce swelling
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:38 PM ET
so let him rest and elevate it and that will be the best way to reduce swelling
- Don'tForgetTocchet

for real
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 11:43 PM ET
He is on a milk diet to strengthen his bones (and teeth and hair).
- Flyskippy


I could use some of that milk.
nyy
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:51 PM ET
7-1 win and Giroux didn't get a point.

Only 13 min TOI, was he injured?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:52 PM ET
so let him rest and elevate it and that will be the best way to reduce swelling
- Don'tForgetTocchet


let him test it out tomorrow and see where it goes. not like they announced he's getting the start saturday or something.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:56 PM ET
7-1 win and Giroux didn't get a point.

Only 13 min TOI, was he injured?

- nyy


No, the game was never in doubt. The Leafs showed about as much emotion and effort as a snail in a puddle
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:57 PM ET
7-1 win and Giroux didn't get a point.

Only 13 min TOI, was he injured?

- nyy

3 games in 4 days. With the game out of hand quickly, makes sense to rest him.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 30 @ 12:00 AM ET
I could use some of that milk.
- stveshdy

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
No, the game was never in doubt. The Leafs showed about as much emotion and effort as a snail in a puddle
- Jsaquella

A beer league team would have shown more effort. Things are really bad in Toronto. Burke cannot fix the issues there.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:10 AM ET
A beer league team would have shown more effort. Things are really bad in Toronto. Burke cannot fix the issues there.
- Flyskippy


The thing that really brings it home is Burke ignored the key positions.

You need strong centers, and a good mix on defense, plus stability in goal.

When the Flyers "rebuilt" they had young guys that projected as good centers, maybe not franchise guys, but next level down. Then they added Briere to it. On defense they didn't load up on on kind of player, they made sure they had guys who can move the puck, guys who were physical and guys who could skate well.

Finally, in goal, there was never a situation when they had two kids who had no experienced guy to help shoulder the load. Biron, Boucher, Emery, Leighton...


Rolling into this year with Gustavsson and Reimer was a HUGE mistake for Burke. They have nobody who would be a top line center anywhere else in the NHL. The defense has two guys that can move the puck, and one's a rookie. The rest are slower, physical guys that have little offense to offer and are hugely overpriced.

The worst part is, looking at capgeek, they're screwed in the near future, too.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:14 AM ET
The thing that really brings it home is Burke ignored the key positions.

You need strong centers, and a good mix on defense, plus stability in goal.

When the Flyers "rebuilt" they had young guys that projected as good centers, maybe not franchise guys, but next level down. Then they added Briere to it. On defense they didn't load up on on kind of player, they made sure they had guys who can move the puck, guys who were physical and guys who could skate well.

Finally, in goal, there was never a situation when they had two kids who had no experienced guy to help shoulder the load. Biron, Boucher, Emery, Leighton...


Rolling into this year with Gustavsson and Reimer was a HUGE mistake for Burke. They have nobody who would be a top line center anywhere else in the NHL. The defense has two guys that can move the puck, and one's a rookie. The rest are slower, physical guys that have little offense to offer and are hugely overpriced.

The worst part is, looking at capgeek, they're screwed in the near future, too.

- Jsaquella


i'm lovin it
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:20 AM ET

i'm lovin it

- 2Real


Next year they have Connelly, MacArthur, Armstrong, Phaneuf, Komisarek and Lombardi under contract. That combined hit? $25mm
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:27 AM ET
Next year they have Connelly, MacArthur, Armstrong, Phaneuf, Komisarek and Lombardi under contract. That combined hit? $25mm
- Jsaquella

and that's pretty awful don't forget they have grabovski at 5+ mill too
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Mar 30 @ 12:34 AM ET
dam, im effed up..just got home and saw they won 7-1..did #88 play or something?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 30 @ 12:34 AM ET
dam, im effed up..just got home and saw they won 7-1..did #88 play or something?
- mydoglicks

5 goals
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 30 @ 12:43 AM ET
What's wrong with Kimmo?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 30 @ 1:07 AM ET
What's wrong with Kimmo?
- roenick97

His back. I'd be willing to bet it's precautionary. Nothing to technically play for (seems as though a 1st round matchup is set in stone, barring something ridiculous). Just a few rest days- gotta have him set for the dance.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 30 @ 1:27 AM ET
dam, im effed up..just got home and saw they won 7-1..did #88 play or something?
- mydoglicks


Just finished fast forwarding through that smoke show. I know it was the Laffs and a no-name goalie but dam there were some pretty goals scored tonight.

Pretty rare when this team puts up 7 and Giroux and Hartnell don't figure in any of them. Nice to see, but rare nonetheless.

Would have been nice for Couturier to get one. He's only got a couple in his last 30 games or so. Somehow ends up a -1. Poor kid.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 30 @ 1:58 AM ET
Just finished fast forwarding through that smoke show. I know it was the Laffs and a no-name goalie but dam there were some pretty goals scored tonight.

Pretty rare when this team puts up 7 and Giroux and Hartnell don't figure in any of them. Nice to see, but rare nonetheless.

Would have been nice for Couturier to get one. He's only got a couple in his last 30 games or so. Somehow ends up a -1. Poor kid.

- rockychocbill


Just watching the replay myself. Schenn just got his 2nd. It's nice to know that other teams have issues clearing the puck from their zone, and fun when it happens against the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 30 @ 7:35 AM ET
The thing that really brings it home is Burke ignored the key positions.

You need strong centers, and a good mix on defense, plus stability in goal.

When the Flyers "rebuilt" they had young guys that projected as good centers, maybe not franchise guys, but next level down. Then they added Briere to it. On defense they didn't load up on on kind of player, they made sure they had guys who can move the puck, guys who were physical and guys who could skate well.

Finally, in goal, there was never a situation when they had two kids who had no experienced guy to help shoulder the load. Biron, Boucher, Emery, Leighton...


Rolling into this year with Gustavsson and Reimer was a HUGE mistake for Burke. They have nobody who would be a top line center anywhere else in the NHL. The defense has two guys that can move the puck, and one's a rookie. The rest are slower, physical guys that have little offense to offer and are hugely overpriced.

The worst part is, looking at capgeek, they're screwed in the near future, too.

- Jsaquella


Definitely Center is an issue on that team. But that team just flat out lacks character. You could see it all over the ice.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Mar 30 @ 8:03 AM ET
Lol.. You are the first to have called it if he gets another goal.
- Richieattack18


Haha, Schenner! I thought for sure he would have gotten another.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 8:06 AM ET
Definitely Center is an issue on that team. But that team just flat out lacks character. You could see it all over the ice.
- MJL


That can be a function of losing. A few months ago they were playing solid hockey and had themselves in a playoff spot.

They just couldn't sustain it without strength down the middle and their badly overpriced and slow defense corps leaving the inexperienced goaltending tandem exposed. They way they have dropped would challenge the most capable leadership group and dressing room.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
That can be a function of losing. A few months ago they were playing solid hockey and had themselves in a playoff spot.

They just couldn't sustain it without strength down the middle and their badly overpriced and slow defense corps leaving the inexperienced goaltending tandem exposed. They way they have dropped would challenge the most capable leadership group and dressing room.

- Jsaquella

Imagine if they had not traded for Kessel... Burke vastly overpaid there as well.

Atleast with Seguin and Dougie Hamilton.. the Leafs would have something to start building around.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 30 @ 8:44 AM ET
Imagine if they had not traded for Kessel... Burke vastly overpaid there as well.

Atleast with Seguin and Dougie Hamilton.. the Leafs would have something to start building around.

- jak521


He's made a lot of very questionable moves since arriving in Toronto. Tim Connolly 2 years at almost $5mm per. Trading for Phaneuf. It's stunning how many bad contracts he's given out.

I also think he sent a really bad message by NOT making a deadline move.
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