yes - because PA can skate and distribute the puck as well as score. Moulson's game is a good one, but he's not a guy to carry the puck up ice and start a rush. I think Moulson signed for far less than he's worth, but PA I believe compliments JT nicely on that line with MM.

I'd expect a fair price to be around 3.5-4, the problem is once he is a UFA the price is going to be closer to 5.5

at that price he's not worth it, however being that we have so much cap space we have to spend, and we don't have enough NHL ready talent to fill a competitive roster, I think we will find a way to get him signed.
- Isles_since_6

assuming all things equal, would you prefer PA for 5.5 or Parise for 8?

i think its a no brainer if those are possibilities.

assuming all things equal, would you prefer PA for 5.5 or Parise for 8?

i think its a no brainer if those are possibilities.
- LetsGoIsles

We are not getting Parise no matter how much money we throw at him. Wont happen in a million years

"Rebuilding" a team this way isn't going to take 7-10 years its just not going to work period, end of story. Once these kids get good(if they do) they're gone. Hmm, lemme think about this. Stay with a team with a circus like atmosphere or play somewhere where they will try to ice a competitive team and surrond me with good players to help me succeed, its a no brainer. Play with Pandawful, Reasoner, or the likes of Brian Rolston or ?
- Cptmjl

Finally someone else who understands. Thankyou Cptm

We are not getting Parise no matter how much money we throw at him. Wont happen in a million years
- kasperrko

assuming all things equal, would you prefer PA for 5.5 or Parise for 8?

i think its a no brainer if those are possibilities.

Finally someone else who understands. Thankyou Cptm
- SCLI

These guys will never get it, seems like common sense to me? There has to be drastic changes made in so many different areas. I just don't see Snow being the guy to do that? Its not OK to lose in professional sports, thats part of what makes them "professional". The constant excuses made for Snow are getting thinner and thinner. When is he held accountable for being the GM of this team? Every year its the same shat and the same people say "next years the year", "we're rebuilding", "its a waste to make a trade for a real player now", or my favorite; "they are'nt ready yet". Well why the (frank) are'nt they ready? Isn't it the GM's job to ice a competitive team and have them coached by someone who is capable? When does any of this become Snow's fault? If its not his fault whose is it? Wnag's but Snow gets a free pass because of Wang? How can anyone think this season is not a failure? (frank)ing ridiculous, every year on here the same guys can't wait for the draft in the hope this team is going to suddenly be competitive next year. What makes you think Snow is going to suddenly make trades or sign even decent FA's? For those who think its great that he does'nt trade or sign anyone(and there are quite a few of you on here) this team will NEVER be competitive solely drafting players and developing them in this losing environment. Keep hoping for more losses and another high draft pick and guess what? You'll be saying the same god damn thing next year.

Sure they are. Saying its not acceptable where the team is, really is "holding the orginization to a higher standard". Sitting back and saying OK, sucks but it is what it is, nobodys fault, oh well is not "holding the orginization to a higher standard", as a fan its accepting failure and in essence being OK with it.
- Cptmjl

No. Holding the organization to a higher standard would be actually going out and doing something proactive about it. Make them responsible for whatever you feel they've done wrong. Write letters to Wang or Snow, start a petition, organize a freakin protest outside of the Coliseum. Do something. Whining on the internet gets you nowhere. It's like complaining about a president but not going out to vote against him when he's up for re-election, and then wondering how he possibly got re-elected.

I also never once said anything even remotely in the vicinity of "it's nobodies fault" or "OK, sucks". Nor did I say I was OK with any of it.

assuming all things equal, would you prefer PA for 5.5 or Parise for 8?

i think its a no brainer if those are possibilities.
- LetsGoIsles

Got ya PArise all the way. PA is def not worth that much but I can see some team being suckered in to give him that

Guys we are all fighting in here I mean one thing is for sure we all hate DP right??? Right?? Please??

yes - because PA can skate and distribute the puck as well as score. Moulson's game is a good one, but he's not a guy to carry the puck up ice and start a rush. I think Moulson signed for far less than he's worth, but PA I believe compliments JT nicely on that line with MM.

I'd expect a fair price to be around 3.5-4, the problem is once he is a UFA the price is going to be closer to 5.5

at that price he's not worth it, however being that we have so much cap space we have to spend, and we don't have enough NHL ready talent to fill a competitive roster, I think we will find a way to get him signed.
- Isles_since_6

I agree with you on the price for PA but not that he's worth more than Moulson.

Also we're not that far from the cap floor next season, if it doesn't change we're $10 mill from the floor with having only 3 Dmen signed, and 15 roster spots filled already. Even thou the cap will go up it'll probably only go up 2 million.

IMO, if we were to toss money like that around, I'd rather it be on the backline, for this fan feels someone else can fill that top spot on feeding the puck to JT or MM. Not trying to take anything away from PA, just dont feel he's worth the money or years in the contract he'll be looking for

assuming all things equal, would you prefer PA for 5.5 or Parise for 8?

i think its a no brainer if those are possibilities.
- LetsGoIsles

Why even bring it up, cause if that was the case no fan on here would take PA over Parise even if it was PA at 3.5

Just sayin

I agree with you on the price for PA but not that he's worth more than Moulson.

Also we're not that far from the cap floor next season, if it doesn't change we're $10 mill from the floor with having only 3 Dmen signed, and 15 roster spots filled already. Even thou the cap will go up it'll probably only go up 2 million.

IMO, if we were to toss money like that around, I'd rather it be on the backline, for this fan feels someone else can fill that top spot on feeding the puck to JT or MM. Not trying to take anything away from PA, just dont feel he's worth the money or years in the contract he'll be looking for
- Killer' Carlson

He's definitely not worth more than Moulson, but we may have to pay a little to keep him around. I personally wouldn't go over $5 mil. Even that would probably be an overpayment. I think negotiations will start with Snow going low at $3.5mil (or even $3mil) and Walsh going high probably around $6 mil. The question is if they can meet on a

No. Holding the organization to a higher standard would be actually going out and doing something proactive about it. Make them responsible for whatever you feel they've done wrong. Write letters to Wang or Snow, start a petition, organize a freakin protest outside of the Coliseum. Do something. Whining on the internet gets you nowhere. It's like complaining about a president but not going out to vote against him when he's up for re-election, and then wondering how he possibly got re-elected.

I also never once said anything even remotely in the vicinity of "it's nobodies fault" or "OK, sucks". Nor did I say I was OK with any of it.
- eichiefs9

I do my part, I don't go to games, don't buy merchandise. Forums like this are made to discuss or as you put it whine about your team. Whether its the can't wait for the lottery pick again, yay conversation. Or the, we have to keep losing or the wow, DP is skating again is as relevant as anything anyone wants to whine about. Thats the point of these boards. Anyone who does accept this is A) someone who has no concept of how great hockey is when watching a good team or B) Just does'nt have a clue. When you say, is what it is it is in a way accepting things for the way they are. When someone says there was progress this year its saying they are happy or content with whats going on as far as I'm concerned, difference of opinion.

Guys we are all fighting in here I mean one thing is for sure we all hate DP right??? Right?? Please??
- kasperrko

You know as well as I do that there is more DP love and Snow admiration on here then you will ever find anywhere else on Long Island. Makes me wonder if its Snow and DP on here making these posts! . How can you possibly be a fan of either of these guys and be an Islanders fan?

I agree with you on the price for PA but not that he's worth more than Moulson.

Also we're not that far from the cap floor next season, if it doesn't change we're $10 mill from the floor with having only 3 Dmen signed, and 15 roster spots filled already. Even thou the cap will go up it'll probably only go up 2 million.

IMO, if we were to toss money like that around, I'd rather it be on the backline, for this fan feels someone else can fill that top spot on feeding the puck to JT or MM. Not trying to take anything away from PA, just dont feel he's worth the money or years in the contract he'll be looking for
- Killer' Carlson

He dfinitey is not but according to alot of people on here after the trade deadline he loves it here so much hes going to play for a reasonable price to continue to play for this great team. Besides we only would've gotten a second for him and Nabby, at most

Why even bring it up, cause if that was the case no fan on here would take PA over Parise even if it was PA at 3.5

Just sayin
- Killer' Carlson

thats quite presumptuous; there are plenty of fans who wouldnt be all too thrilled to pay parise 8.5 million

I'm not naming any names or pointing anyone out, but I seriously think there are a few people that post on here that lost a few brain cells along the way. That, and reading comprehension passed them bye bye a long time ago.

He's definitely not worth more than Moulson, but we may have to pay a little to keep him around. I personally wouldn't go over $5 mil. Even that would probably be an overpayment. I think negotiations will start with Snow going low at $3.5mil (or even $3mil) and Walsh going high probably around $6 mil. The question is if they can meet on a
- eichiefs9

I wouldn't go over 4-4.25 depending on how the deal was structured, sorry I like the guy and don't wanna lose him but when you're not worth it you shouldn't get it, let some other team mess up. The way I look at it he shouldn't be getting Getzlaf type money, guys got skill no doubt and works well with JT & MM, but he's not top level talent. and lets be real here he has 2 good seasons under him.

He dfinitey is not but according to alot of people on here after the trade deadline he loves it here so much hes going to play for a reasonable price to continue to play for this great team. Besides we only would've gotten a second for him and Nabby, at most
- Cptmjl

He does love it here and he loves his teammates, I hope he resigns at a reasonable cost but I don't trust his agent and even thou I've spoken to PA far too many times I don't believe he'll know untill that time comes

thats quite presumptuous; there are plenty of fans who wouldnt be all too thrilled to pay parise 8.5 million
- LetsGoIsles

Really?? cause I know there are some that don't think he should make that kinda money, BUT you we're talking PA to Zack... and if I remember correctly all fans say and know that we're far from the cap ceiling, and you're talking world class athlete Zach Parise with far superior talent & work ethic to PA, and what fans on here would care about Zack making that much over a guy like PA? they aren't the ones paying him. I'd really like to see which fan on here for any team that would rather have PA over Zack. and lets remember we're working under you're "assuming all things equal" Where's the fans that would be upset at having Zack over PA for $2.5 mill more (your #'s) or even $4.5 more(my wise@ss #) I don't even think there's a GM in the League that wouldn't take Zack over PA for $2.5 more, so as I originally stated... Why even bring it up?

Hell it wouldn't surprise me if some fans on here that would choose Zack at $10 mil a year over PA at $2 mill

And no Xx I don't believe you'd take PA over Zack at a 2.5 mil difference but you'd say it to be a wise@ass

lets go islanders!

Let's go Isles!

wtf?!?! are they insane!!! charging 175 a ticket for preseason hockey?!?! christ!!
- LetsGoIsles

It is crazy but I bought my tickets. Who knows if they end up in Brooklyn or somewhere else? I had to see them in Brooklyn at least once.

What has gotten into KO and Bailey? They look like stars. I have never been so fustrated with the Isles playing so well.

What has gotten into KO and Bailey? They look like stars. I have never been so fustrated with the Isles playing so well.
- ses111

Where was this line all year...would have made a big difference.

Thanks guys