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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:06 AM ET
So the Pens don't scare you at all? We've played a lot better at home of late, and I just have visions of 2009 when we had home ice only to give it away just before the playoffs and lose in 6.
- Hextall271


Scariest team in the league right now, no doubt. But I don't believe in momentum heading into the playoffs.

If the Flyers are on top of their game, they can beat anyone in the NHL.

Also, it would be an extremely entertaining series.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 10:07 AM ET
The main objective is to maintain a level of compete and get healthy. That being said the sixth seed might happen by default (I'm not a fan of tanking games either) and if I remember correctly the last time the Flyers dealt with late season goalie injuries something special happened
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:08 AM ET
So the Pens don't scare you at all? We've played a lot better at home of late, and I just have visions of 2009 when we had home ice only to give it away just before the playoffs and lose in 6.
- Hextall271


Every team should worry us. There's not likely to be a walkover opponent at any point. Neither the Rangers or Pens will be a cakewalk. Even if they drop to sixth, they could end up against the Caps, who despite their performance thus far, can still be a dangerous team.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:11 AM ET
This is my own personal opinion... If someone told me that Bryz was going to break his foot, but I would be the one to pick what type of fx and where it would be located.. i would have picked small chip fracture and minimal-weightbearing bone (toe). So I would be one fir two here.

Good news: Its a relatively simple injury. Nothing to complicated usually comes of it. Like has been said else where.. typically its a matter of pain and swelling. The body will resorb that bony fragment and in a matter of about 6 weeks, you wont be able to find in on X-ray, CT, or MRI.

Bad News: It is in a weight-bearing bone ( most likely the navicular) and is exacerbated by stressful motions. Goalies do a ton of pushing with their feet. The way the body works is amazing.. but its not always in our best personal (what we want) interest. Pain, especially when severe, can actually cause muscles to "give out". People with severe knee pain often have this manifestation. They feel knee instability, yet when examined and tested actually have no mechanism for instability. Pain can be a serious PITA.

If it were up to me I would let him rest a week.. see how much pain he is in and go from there. Completely shut him down. Dont skate, stay off of it.. let him settle down. Sometimes the area is pretty irritated, and that can cause most of the pain. Staying off of it, letting that settle, and giving it a little bit of time to begin the healing process can really help. The last thing I would like to see is him pushing it to go this weekend, and then have him limp through the playoffs.

Ultimately.. the worst we can do is go 0-7.. and potentially end up playing either Pitt or the Rags... or in a best case scenario 7-0 and potentially end up playing either Pit or the Rags... catch my drift.

!!AGAIN: THIS IS ALL MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!

- jak521


We're all indebted to you, Dr Killdare.

I agree with you. No need to rush him back and possibly make things more painful. From most of what I read, your opinion goes along with the suggested course of action.

Now, that said, I got this lump...
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
Every team should worry us. There's not likely to be a walkover opponent at any point. Neither the Rangers or Pens will be a cakewalk. Even if they drop to sixth, they could end up against the Caps, who despite their performance thus far, can still be a dangerous team.
- Jsaquella


Buffalo kinda is reminding me of us in 2010. Underachieving all year, then boom.switch flipped and they are off. Miller is playing very well right now. I'd love to see them face the Rangers and send them packing..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
The main objective is to maintain a level of compete and get healthy. That being said the sixth seed might happen by default (I'm not a fan of tanking games either) and if I remember correctly the last time the Flyers dealt with late season goalie injuries something special happened
- JoeRussomanno


I agree. Leighton is only a waiver recall away..
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Buffalo kinda is reminding me of us in 2010. Underachieving all year, then boom.switch flipped and they are off. Miller is playing very well right now. I'd love to see them face the Rangers and send them packing..
- Hextall271


That wouldn't be bad, but then somebody will have to face a geeked up Miller and Sabres team
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:21 AM ET
mcrossin just needs to spray some windex on bryz's foot and he should be good to go.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 10:24 AM ET
mcrossin just needs to spray some windex on bryz's foot and he should be good to go.
- hammarby31

We should have known we get the hottest goaltender in the league going into the playoffs and BAM he gets one of those chew the inside of your cheek injuries go figure
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:26 AM ET
We should have known we get the hottest goaltender in the league going into the playoffs and BAM he gets one of those chew the inside of your cheek injuries go figure
- JoeRussomanno


honestly, i was waiting for it. it's our lot in life.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 28 @ 10:27 AM ET
Scariest team in the league right now, no doubt. But I don't believe in momentum heading into the playoffs.

If the Flyers are on top of their game, they can beat anyone in the NHL.

Also, it would be an extremely entertaining series.

- bradleyc4


hoping for rags but definitely a be carefs whatcha wish for scenario
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
That wouldn't be bad, but then somebody will have to face a geeked up Miller and Sabres team
- Jsaquella

Lindy Ruff will find a way to coach them out of the playoffs
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
honestly, i was waiting for it. it's our lot in life.
- hammarby31

I can't seem to remember a season where things start looking good going into the playoffs without anyone significant getting an injury.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
I can't seem to remember a season where things start looking good going into the playoffs without anyone significant getting an injury.
- JoeRussomanno



last night i clicked on the cbc clip posted in here of the jr ot goal against toronto to knockout them out in 04. when the clip finished it showed a link of the flyers series against tampa in the next round, so i clicked on that. it was a tampa produced piece on that series, and while interesting to watch, i found it annoying that not once did they mention the flyers ridiculously depleted defense corps - not the players, not the narrator, nobody. yep. that 7 game series decided by 1 measly goal was a battle of two healthy teams. i think the former iraqi minister of propaganda produced it.

(frank)ing joke.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
I am so beyond excited for the playoffs to begin. We can definitely beat the Pens (if that's how it shakes out); nothing would please me more, actually, then beating them at their home in a game 7

Hope everyone gets as healthy as they can and Bob can turn it on for the stretch run!

- DrMidnite


That would be helluva battle! I think we are each others biggest obstacle once the playoffs start.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 10:43 AM ET
last night i clicked on the cbc clip posted in here of the jr ot goal against toronto to knockout them out in 04. when the clip finished it showed a link of the flyers series against tampa in the next round, so i clicked on that. it was a tampa produced piece on that series, and while interesting to watch, i found it annoying that not once did they fail to mention the flyers ridiculously depleted defense corps - not the players, not the narrator, nobody. yep. that 7 game series decided by 1 measly goal was a battle of two healthy teams. i think the former iraqi minister of propaganda produced it.

(frank)ing joke.

- hammarby31

That was the year we had to use a winger on defense too If I remember correctly. That's it I'm restarting the game going back to options and turning off injuries damnit!
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'm certainly cool with the team taking it easy (which shouldn't be misconstrued with finishing strong) to heal up a bit. Of course it'd be nice to finish 4th, but it's going to be a war against who ever they play (Rags or Pens) and I'd like them to be somewhat healthy if at all possible. I think Kimmo should be given ample time off and Bryz shouldn't come back until 1 or 2 games before the playoffs if possible. Simply put, the Flyers were going to have to beat the Penguins or Rangers at some point, let's get it out of the way in the first round and hope Ottawa knocks off Boston.

Btw, as the Penguins displayed last night, it is impossible to win every hockey game and it isn't worth going crazy as some did the other night when your team, which has already clinched, loses a win-able game. It happens. Go Flyers!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
last night i clicked on the cbc clip posted in here of the jr ot goal against toronto to knockout them out in 04. when the clip finished it showed a link of the flyers series against tampa in the next round, so i clicked on that. it was a tampa produced piece on that series, and while interesting to watch, i found it annoying that not once did they fail to mention the flyers ridiculously depleted defense corps - not the players, not the narrator, nobody. yep. that 7 game series decided by 1 measly goal was a battle of two healthy teams. i think the former iraqi minister of propaganda produced it.

(frank)ing joke.

- hammarby31


It was edited by Jack Edwards. (frank) I hate having to listen to that Homer.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm certainly cool with the team taking it easy (which shouldn't be misconstrued with finishing strong) to heal up a bit. Of course it'd be nice to finish 4th, but it's going to be a war against who ever they play (Rags or Pens) and I'd like them to be somewhat healthy if at all possible. I think Kimmo should be given ample time off and Bryz shouldn't come back until 1 or 2 games before the playoffs if possible. Simply put, the Flyers were going to have to beat the Penguins or Rangers at some point, let's get it out of the way in the first round and hope Ottawa knocks off Boston.

Btw, as the Penguins displayed last night, it is impossible to win every hockey game and it isn't worth going crazy as some did the other night when your team, which has already clinched, loses a win-able game. It happens. Go Flyers!

- Flyers1218


I say play Bacon CHihuahua the rest of the year and call up sit Timo, and anyone else with so much as a sore muscle. Tank it..finish 6th and take our chances with Florida..
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
This is my own personal opinion... If someone told me that Bryz was going to break his foot, but I would be the one to pick what type of fx and where it would be located.. i would have picked small chip fracture and minimal-weightbearing bone (toe). So I would be one fir two here.

Good news: Its a relatively simple injury. Nothing to complicated usually comes of it. Like has been said else where.. typically its a matter of pain and swelling. The body will resorb that bony fragment and in a matter of about 6 weeks, you wont be able to find in on X-ray, CT, or MRI.

Bad News: It is in a weight-bearing bone ( most likely the navicular) and is exacerbated by stressful motions. Goalies do a ton of pushing with their feet. The way the body works is amazing.. but its not always in our best personal (what we want) interest. Pain, especially when severe, can actually cause muscles to "give out". People with severe knee pain often have this manifestation. They feel knee instability, yet when examined and tested actually have no mechanism for instability. Pain can be a serious PITA.

If it were up to me I would let him rest a week.. see how much pain he is in and go from there. Completely shut him down. Dont skate, stay off of it.. let him settle down. Sometimes the area is pretty irritated, and that can cause most of the pain. Staying off of it, letting that settle, and giving it a little bit of time to begin the healing process can really help. The last thing I would like to see is him pushing it to go this weekend, and then have him limp through the playoffs.

Ultimately.. the worst we can do is go 0-7.. and potentially end up playing either Pitt or the Rags... or in a best case scenario 7-0 and potentially end up playing either Pit or the Rags... catch my drift.

!!AGAIN: THIS IS ALL MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!

- jak521

Or play Florida. Could be a blessing in disguise.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
Former NHL goalie Mikhail Shtalenkov was reported missing by his wife a couple days ago.

Dmitry Chesnokov ‏ @dchesnokov
Police on Shtalenkov disappearance: "It turned out he was getting drunk with his friends. Case closed." Well then...

- Jsaquella

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
That would be helluva battle! I think we are each others biggest obstacle once the playoffs start.
- kgrpitt

It's a gift to everybody else in the east that the Flyers and Pens are destined to do battle.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
This is my own personal opinion... If someone told me that Bryz was going to break his foot, but I would be the one to pick what type of fx and where it would be located.. i would have picked small chip fracture and minimal-weightbearing bone (toe). So I would be one fir two here.

Good news: Its a relatively simple injury. Nothing to complicated usually comes of it. Like has been said else where.. typically its a matter of pain and swelling. The body will resorb that bony fragment and in a matter of about 6 weeks, you wont be able to find in on X-ray, CT, or MRI.

Bad News: It is in a weight-bearing bone ( most likely the navicular) and is exacerbated by stressful motions. Goalies do a ton of pushing with their feet. The way the body works is amazing.. but its not always in our best personal (what we want) interest. Pain, especially when severe, can actually cause muscles to "give out". People with severe knee pain often have this manifestation. They feel knee instability, yet when examined and tested actually have no mechanism for instability. Pain can be a serious PITA.

If it were up to me I would let him rest a week.. see how much pain he is in and go from there. Completely shut him down. Dont skate, stay off of it.. let him settle down. Sometimes the area is pretty irritated, and that can cause most of the pain. Staying off of it, letting that settle, and giving it a little bit of time to begin the healing process can really help. The last thing I would like to see is him pushing it to go this weekend, and then have him limp through the playoffs.

Ultimately.. the worst we can do is go 0-7.. and potentially end up playing either Pitt or the Rags... or in a best case scenario 7-0 and potentially end up playing either Pit or the Rags... catch my drift.

!!AGAIN: THIS IS ALL MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!

- jak521

kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
It's a gift to everybody else in the east that the Flyers and Pens are destined to do battle.
- BulliesPhan87


Indeed. Whichever team (most likely the pens ) comes out of that they are going to be hurting. That is the main reason I don't want it to happen because I would hate to see either team knocked out in the second round losing to a team like Florida when everyone knows both the Pens and Flyers are far beyond Fl.

Then again that is the nature of the beast when it comes to the playoffs. Beat the best to be the best I suppose.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
That was the year we had to use a winger on defense too If I remember correctly. That's it I'm restarting the game going back to options and turning off injuries damnit!
- JoeRussomanno


sami kapanen. johnsson had a broken hand (and played). ragnarsson went out in the first or second game. malakhov had a concussion. desjardin had reinjured his broken forearm right before the playoffs. it was ridiculous. nobody really remembers that it was timander on the left point in the dying minutes of game 6 that shot the puck that primeau tapped in on the other side. just think about that. weinrich and theiren had been jettisoned at the deadline. seidenberg was a rookie on a very short leash from hitch. he barely saw the ice after his turnover in the neutral zone lead to lecavalier's early goal in game 6. i think markov was the only healthy guy back there. still makes me mad.
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