well hopefully one day im lucky enough to witness that
- fecondo

I wish I had been prepared with a recording device the couple of times I've witnessed them, although the transcription process would have been hindered by the uncontrollable laughter.

If it ever happens, I stop watching the NHL.
- Jsaquella

I don't think it would ever happen. That Flyers/Pens 5 OT game was one of my favorite games ever. There is nothing like overtime in playoff hockey. The drama is so thick you can cut it with a knife. The NHL knows better to try and screw with that.

What, exactly, is the negative with a tie? Ties were around for 100 years in the NHL and it's predecessor leagues, and never were an issue. Hell there's still ties, but now teams that tie have a chance to earn a bogus bonus point for winning a skills competition.

Yes, there can be exciting moments in a shootout. It's not the shootout that is the issue. It's that they use it to decide the outcome of games with something that eliminates 99% of the game.
- Jsaquella

For me, nothing. But when fans go to a game, they want to see a winner. Whether it's a skills competition or whatever. The shootout is good for the game and good for the NHL.

I don't think it would ever happen. That Flyers/Pens 5 OT game was one of my favorite games ever. There is nothing like overtime in playoff hockey. The drama is so thick you can cut it with a knife. The NHL knows better to try and screw with that.
- PLindbergh31

Probably the most exciting sport when a game reaches overtime (playoffs).

Ending a hockey game in a shootout is like ending a baseball game with a home run derby. It just doesnt make sense to me. Every other sport plays the game until someone wins, or in footballs case the rare tie.
- fecondo

Agreed, but you can't have sudden death in the regular season. That isn't feasible. I think 4 on 4 for 10 mins is about the best and most simple solution. I don't think there would be an inordinate amount of ties using that format.

The NFL has tie games. Granted there's far fewer ties in the NFL than in hockey, but I think that going to a 10 minute 4 on 4 OT and eliminating points except for wins would go a long way to limiting ties.

Teams wouldn't be sitting back and playing for a tie or shootout if there was no reward for them.
- Jsaquella

Especially at the end of the season when everyone is fighting for extra points. Imo that would make for better hockey than what we have right now.

Probably the most exciting sport when a game reaches overtime (playoffs).
- stveshdy

Absolutely. I agree 100%

For me, nothing. But when fans go to a game, they want to see a winner. Whether it's a skills competition or whatever. The shootout is good for the game and good for the NHL.
- MJL

I can live with it in the regular season, as long as it never becomes part of the post season (which I'm confident it won't). I'd really like to see that loser point eliminated, though.

Ending a hockey game in a shootout is like ending a baseball game with a home run derby. It just doesnt make sense to me. Every other sport plays the game until someone wins, or in footballs case the rare tie.
- fecondo

Wait, there's ties in football?

For me, nothing. But when fans go to a game, they want to see a winner. Whether it's a skills competition or whatever. The shootout is good for the game and good for the NHL.
- MJL

I disagree that it's good for the game or the NHL. If fans simply need to see a winner, then seeing a kid win the "What cup is the logo under game" should suffice.

I just have trouble agreeing that deciding the winner of a game without playing the same sport that was played for 65 minutes is a good idea, regardless of the entertainment value. I'd be more open to agreement if the points system was tweaked to lessen the weight of a shootout or even OT win.

Probably the most exciting sport when a game reaches overtime (playoffs).
- stveshdy

There's nothing in sports more exciting than NHL playoff overtime.

Agreed, but you can't have sudden death in the regular season. That isn't feasible. I think 4 on 4 for 10 mins is about the best and most simple solution. I don't think there would be an inordinate amount of ties using that format.
- PLindbergh31

I agree with that. I wasn't trying to say i wanted it to be sudden death all season long. But you have to keep that in place for the playoffs. Theres nothing better imo

There's nothing in sports more exciting than NHL playoff overtime.
- Jsaquella

+1

Wait, there's ties in football?

- BulliesPhan87

Especially at the end of the season when everyone is fighting for extra points. Imo that would make for better hockey than what we have right now.
- fecondo

Look at the Flyers-Caps game, or the Flyers-Panthers game. In both cases, the team the Flyers was playing was so desperate for standings points, that they played not to lose. Worked for the Cats, but not the Caps.

Neither game was exciting, though, was it?

Wait, there's ties in football?

- BulliesPhan87

There's nothing in sports more exciting than NHL playoff overtime.
- Jsaquella

I honestly don't understand how people don't like hockey. It has pretty much everything in the game. Its fast paced with lots of action.

NBA is a garbage product
MLB is slow as a turtle

I agree with that. I wasn't trying to say i wanted it to be sudden death all season long. But you have to keep that in place for the playoffs. Theres nothing better imo
- fecondo

No question about it. Nothing more exciting than playoff OT hockey. It's edge of your seat stuff every second.

Mookie! What's up buddy? I''m hanging in there. It sucks being half a cripple for the time being. I'm managing though. Thanks for asking.
- PLindbergh31

No prblem broskie. Eh I am glad I finished the other "Personal History Statement" I had to do for a local P.D., I think I know more about myself now than I have in a long time

I honestly don't understand how people don't like hockey. It has pretty much everything in the game. Its fast paced with lots of action.

NBA is a garbage product
MLB is slow as a turtle
- stveshdy

I guess the Phils made a wise decision not bringing back Ryan Madson. Good lord, tough break for him.

The Phils opening day infield will include the likes of Ty Wigginton, and Pete Orr.

There isn't ever going to be anything other then to keep playing OT 5 on 5 until someone scores a goal, that won't have any negatives to it. For obvious reasons that just can't happen over an 82 game Season. Does anyone turn off the game and not watch when it goes to a shootout? I watch with excitement. Seeing moves like the one Giroux made recently is exciting.
- MJL

if they devised some other method - like bank shots off the side boards into an empty net or other ridiculous idea - people would watch that too, simply because it's the final act to determine the winner, not that it is, in and of itself, exciting.

No question about it. Nothing more exciting than playoff OT hockey. It's edge of your seat stuff every second.
- PLindbergh31

I love it, I eat that shyt up

No prblem broskie. Eh I am glad I finished the other "Personal History Statement" I had to do for a local P.D., I think I know more about myself now than I have in a long time
- bigmookalookie

It's a tough road getting into law enforcement. Tons of red tape. It's all worth it in the end.

The problem I have is, it decides the game without playing the game. To me, regardless of it's excitement level or anything else, you're choosing a winner and loser based on something other than playing the sport.

If I want to watch shootouts, I'll go on youtube and find old episodes of NHL Showdown.
- Jsaquella

i did that for you yesterday. should hold you over for awhile.

I honestly don't understand how people don't like hockey. It has pretty much everything in the game. Its fast paced with lots of action.

NBA is a garbage product
MLB is slow as a turtle
- stveshdy

Part of it is not understanding the flow of the game. How many people sit there and scream "SHOOT" for two minutes when there's a power play?

I don't like the NBA, used to love college hoops until every good player was gone after a year or two at most. The NFL often bores me to tears, but it's a great sport for TV. Plenty of built in breaks for review and analysis.

I like baseball because I like the strategic thinking of it.