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Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
The Flyers want either 1st or 6th
Staying in 5th or 4th place will be to much to overcome even if they win the round.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 24 @ 9:29 AM ET
The Flyers want either 1st or 6th
Staying in 5th or 4th place will be to much to overcome even if they win the round.

- Flyers Time

Please stop talking.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:30 AM ET
The Flyers want either 1st or 6th
Staying in 5th or 4th place will be to much to overcome even if they win the round.

- Flyers Time

Philly should get the 2 tonight, Habs had a fairly physical contest last night against the Sens and I doubt they can match last nights offensive outburst...also doubt Philly matches the Sens complete lack of intensity, throw Budaj in there, and while he hasn't been that bad I doubt he stands on his head. I'll say 5-1 or 5-2 Philly.
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:30 AM ET
Please stop talking.
- aightwebang17

your just mad bro
deal dawg
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
The Flyers want either 1st or 6th
Staying in 5th or 4th place will be to much to overcome even if they win the round.

- Flyers Time


Not necessarily. The 4th/5th seed is more advantageous if you get through the first round because of how often there are upsets of at least one division winner in the first round.

Let's say Pittsburgh overtakes the Rangers and then beats the eight seed. If either Boston or Florida were to get knocked by 6/7 seed, THAT team would get the Penguins in round two and the Flyers would get either Boston/Florida (if just one wins) in round two or else be a home ice team in round two if both Boston and Florida were to lose.

The Conference Finals matchup is what is it: no matter what seed you are, you play the other last team standing in the Conference.

Barring the unlikely event the Flyers finish first, being the 4/5 likely is the more advantageous road to the Conference Finals than being the 6 --- that is, if the club can get through round one. The goal here isn't to win one round anyway.

Is it really that much better to run into the Pens/Rangers in round two (if you get that far) than round one? I don't see Washington or Buffalo beating the top seed regardless of which team it is. Might as well deal with one of them right away and, hopefully, get a better on-paper matchup for round two.
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:39 AM ET
Not necessarily. The 4th/5th seed is more advantageous if you get through the first round because of how often there are upsets of at least one division winner in the first round.

Let's say Pittsburgh overtakes the Rangers and then beats the eight seed. If either Boston or Florida were to get knocked by 6/7 seed, THAT team would get the Penguins in round two and the Flyers would get either Boston/Florida (if just one wins) in round two or else be a home ice team in round two if both Boston and Florida were to lose.

The Conference Finals matchup is what is it: no matter what seed you are, you play the other last team standing in the Conference.

Barring the unlikely event the Flyers finish first, being the 4/5 likely is the more advantageous road to the Conference Finals than being the 6 --- that is, if the club can get through round one. The goal here isn't to win one round anyway.

- bmeltzer
It's to get Pronger, Foppa, Lappy, and Mez back and win a cup.

bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
Go Flyers! BOOM
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
Not necessarily. The 4th/5th seed is more advantageous if you get through the first round because of how often there are upsets of at least one division winner in the first round.

Let's say Pittsburgh overtakes the Rangers and then beats the eight seed. If either Boston or Florida were to get knocked by 6/7 seed, THAT team would get the Penguins in round two and the Flyers would get either Boston/Florida (if just one wins) in round two or else be a home ice team in round two if both Boston and Florida were to lose.

The Conference Finals matchup is what is it: no matter what seed you are, you play the other last team standing in the Conference.

Barring the unlikely event the Flyers finish first, being the 4/5 likely is the more advantageous road to the Conference Finals than being the 6 --- that is, if the club can get through round one. The goal here isn't to win one round anyway.

Is it really that much better to run into the Pens/Rangers in round two (if you get that far) than round one? I don't see Washington or Buffalo beating the top seed regardless of which team it is. Might as well deal with one of them right away and, hopefully, get a better on-paper matchup for round two.

- bmeltzer

Normally I'd agree but unless the Sabres get in, I don't see any of the top 3 getting dumped this year, Boston maybe. Philly's 1st round will probably be their toughest of the of the eastern rounds.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 24 @ 9:47 AM ET
It's kinda sad to see a storied franchise like the Canadians sitting in last place with only 29 wins.

Where have you gone Alexei Kovalev?

- 77rams


Sad? Not the word I would use. I love it..i am basically surrouned by habs fans here and I don't hear a peep from them.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:48 AM ET
Sad? Not the word I would use. I love it..i am basically surrouned by habs fans here and I don't hear a peep from them.
- Hextall271

You weren't shocked by the sudden number of Bruin fans sprouting up all over the Maritimes last year?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
Go install some cable Larry
- Flyers Time

What time you getting to the arena tonight?
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
Florida has 14 loser points and a -19 goal differential and will probs get the 3 seed.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
Florida has 14 loser points and a -19 goal differential and will probs get the 3 seed.


- aightwebang17


Parity is awesome, huh?

Sad thing is, they're one point behind Boston
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Mar 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Florida has 14 loser points and a -19 goal differential and will probs get the 3 seed.


- aightwebang17

Its ridiculous that Philly and NJ aren't seeded ahead of them and Boston for that matter.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
You be better off explaining quantum physics to a small beagle with brain damage and expect him to understand it.
- Jsaquella


Let the chips fall. Whoever they play so be it. If your good enough you will win.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 10:04 AM ET
Let the chips fall. Whoever they play so be it. If your good enough you will win.
- stveshdy


That's how I see it. They're going to have to beat two out of Pittsburgh, New York or Boston to get out of the East anyhow. Might as well face one of them when they are as healthy as they likely will be.
qwijibo
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.10.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:05 AM ET
Its ridiculous that Philly and NJ aren't seeded ahead of them and Boston for that matter.
- Pie


Yeah, I've always had an issue with that aspect of the seeding. I'm fine with guaranteeing each division leader a playoff spot, but their position in their position in the top 8 should be determined entirely by points. Not automatically be top 3
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
poop happens, you know?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/st...lea#&navid=nav-stn-league

- Pie


interesting that boston was 23rd and chicago 26th that season along with the flyers in 30th. obviously boston and chicago have won cups and philly's been to the final since then. doesn't take a lot of time to turn around a franchise these days, yet some teams are always bad.

i don't like seeing montreal dead last.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
My Time Warner isn't working right. Anyone know anything about cable hookups?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 10:13 AM ET
My Time Warner isn't working right. Anyone know anything about cable hookups?
- muffin_man


nope
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:18 AM ET
nope
- Jsaquella

Think he would?

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
Think he would?


- muffin_man


Nah, he's really a truck driver.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Nah, he's really a truck driver.
- Jsaquella

Interesting.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
Flyers recalled Gustafsson. Wonder who is hurt
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
Flyers recalled Gustafsson. Wonder who is hurt
- Jsaquella


Shelley sprained his wrist. Somebody has to fetch the popcorn in the press box.
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