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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
I do think there is need for a change up. You have 3 cold players in Schenn, Simmonds and Briere on one line. It isn't working. I'd be for changing it up completely.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Jagr
Read-Schenn-Wellwood
Rinaldo-Cooties-Talbot

- flyer_nutter

I feel we've seen plenty of line changes in the last week. Briere was playing with Voracek like a week ago and now he's been playing with Schenn and Simmonds. Changing things up right now isn't such a bad thing though, we'll see what's next. We need to find a balance.

I might be the only person on this page who isn't overly excited by our PP. Both our net presence players in Simmonds and Hartnell are on one unit. Why?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
IMO the reason they arent getting the PP's anymore is because their offensive game hasnt been doing the right things that teams would have to take penalities... One of the reasons why I think you should get a spped line and a size line together... The speed line will draw hooking penalities from speeding pass defenseman on the transition game. As long as they keep moving and dont get into hitting game... The strengh line, would create retalitory penalities for though checks and grabbing penalities for moving the puck on the forecheck.

Hartnell-Giroux-Jagr
Read-Briere-Wellwood
Simmonds-Schenn-Voracek
Talbot-Couturier-Rinaldo

- RooNosHockey

I guess line changes might help, but I don't think that's the issue nor the sure fire cure. Not trying to put a stick in your spokes or anything, but in this case I'm trusting hot lava knows the best moves he can make here.

Those lines don't look bad, though, I'll give you that.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
If he only improves from here he will one season.

Not that Giroux will win it anyway but is he back into Hart Trophy talks? He's now one point above Stamkos in the points race and he isn't catching Malkin.

- roenick97

I think Malkin pretty much has that sewn up.

Nice to hear some reporters mention Read in a Calder field with no standout winner.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
I do think there is need for a change up. You have 3 cold players in Schenn, Simmonds and Briere on one line. It isn't working. I'd be for changing it up completely.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Jagr
Read-Schenn-Wellwood
Rinaldo-Cooties-Talbot

- flyer_nutter

Who played well as a unit last night and had some chances.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing the flyers loose a few and drop down to the 6th spot and get the panthers first round. Id much rather watch the devils /rangers or the devils/pens play and meet the winner in the 2nd round.
- flyers4487

I certainly don't want them tanking. Hate the mindset. And I'd prefer they be hot going into the playoffs. at 7-2-1 in the last 10 they are second to P'burgh in the east in hotness. (but HOTness is sadly lacking with Meszy out recuperating. )
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
I certainly don't want them tanking. Hate the mindset. And I'd prefer they be hot going into the playoffs. at 7-2-1 in the last 10 they are second to P'burgh in the east in hotness.
- bodiva88

+1, it's a losing mentality. Fight for the points, finish with momentum, and whoever we get bring em on!
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Who played well as a unit last night and had some chances.
- bodiva88


I said a couple day ago they should put Briere Schenn and Simmonds on a line and tell them to stay out there till one of them scores... lol
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
I said a couple day ago they should put Briere Schenn and Simmonds on a line and tell them to stay out there till one of them scores... lol
- RooNosHockey


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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:25 AM ET

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- BulliesPhan87

Well thank you, but I was saying more like... They should keep them out there until they score.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...2f542-getty-141733926%3A1

In this photo (which I cannot link as a photo for some reason), the Simmons subtext is, "Yeah. You wish you were me!"
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
Think Forsberg could be named Sweden's GM for Sochi, Bill?

If the Rangers beat the Sabres in regulation and the Capitals beat the Jets in any way shape or form, the Flyers clinch a playoff spot tonight.

- Jsaquella



Forsberg
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Well thank you, but I was saying more like... They should keep them out there until they score.
- RooNosHockey

I think they'll find net. There's too much untapped clutchness on that line for them not to.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:30 AM ET
Forsberg
- nastyflyergirl

He's gonna be a daddy in June.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
I thought it was more like.... "OMG there is a white guy in stripes chasing me..."
- RooNosHockey

He's not wearing a hoodie.

And before you hurt me, I realize that it's probably too soon.

I am hoping to get out of here tonight in time for the "Million Hoodie March" from 30th St Station to LOVE Park. But I don't have a good feeling about this distribution I'm doing. I did wear a hoodie today, though, just in case.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
He's gonna be a daddy in June.
- bodiva88

he is adopting me and flyerstime
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
He's not wearing a hoodie.

And before you hurt me, I realize that it's probably too soon.

I am hoping to get out of here tonight in time for the "Million Hoodie March" from 30th St Station to LOVE Park. But I don't have a good feeling about this distribution I'm doing. I did wear a hoodie today, though, just in case.

- bodiva88


I am so confused.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
he is adopting me and flyerstime
- Crimsoninja


Forsberg must have never seen the movies Problem Child or Problem Child 2....
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
I certainly don't want them tanking. Hate the mindset. And I'd prefer they be hot going into the playoffs. at 7-2-1 in the last 10 they are second to P'burgh in the east in hotness. (but HOTness is sadly lacking with Meszy out recuperating. )
- bodiva88

I dont think its tanking as much as it is being smart...I mean I still dont get why charlie didnt throw the game to the braves But thats a topic for another day......

I do not want to play the pens in the first round...if it comes down to loosing the last 2-3 games of the season to let jersey get a head.. then im all for it, reduce our main guys minutes to give them some rest and give the young guys some more time.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
He's gonna be a daddy in June.
- bodiva88



Oh really? had no idea. who is the mommy?
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
+1, it's a losing mentality. Fight for the points, finish with momentum, and whoever we get bring em on!
- BulliesPhan87

how did that work for the phillies? no one is saying they cant beat the pens, but its silly to play them first round when we can let jersey wear them out (maybe even beat them you never know)
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
I dont think its tanking as much as it is being smart...I mean I still dont get why charlie didnt throw the game to the braves But thats a topic for another day......

I do not want to play the pens in the first round...if it comes down to loosing the last 2-3 games of the season to let jersey get a head.. then im all for it, reduce our main guys minutes to give them some rest and give the young guys some more time.

- flyers4487

Lava has tried to be much better this season than last about limiting veteran minutes and giving days off/optional skates to keep guys fresh. He clearly learned from last year that his idea that you have to spend the last month playing hard minutes to get them used to it backfired in leaving him with a spent team when the playoffs started. But winning is important. Putting in a team's mind that they're better off playing such and such an opponent can backfire with either them not getting that opponent and being prepared to fail against a "tougher" opponent or having them enter a series with the "easier" opponent and being complacent.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
Oh really? had no idea. who is the mommy?
- nastyflyergirl

He didn't say. Just was talking about what he's been up to now that he's done playing and said he's starting a family, will be a dad in June. It was on Sports Night.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
how did that work for the phillies? no one is saying they cant beat the pens, but its silly to play them first round when we can let jersey wear them out (maybe even beat them you never know)
- flyers4487

The Phillies had worse problems than match up. If they couldn't beat the Cardinals, they wouldn't succeed either way. That's not how a champion plays.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
He didn't say. Just was talking about what he's been up to now that he's done playing and said he's starting a family, will be a dad in June. It was on Sports Night.
- bodiva88



ah missed that. good for him. I really loved watching the healthy Forsberg play. and those blue eyes
flyerfan48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IL
Joined: 12.26.2008

Mar 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
I would change the Power Play for starters. I understand the numbers say we're 7th in the NHL, bluh bluh bluh but this is all based on the entire season up to this point. There are a lot of players slumping on this team and are barely involved on the PP. If we can't get Briere going now and if he's a non factor in the playoffs, I don't think anyone should be surprised. You want a balanced Power Play but we have time to find balance. I think it's time to push the players who need to be pushed.
- roenick97


I think a fully loaded first unit like the one they use for a 5 on 3 might not be a bad idea rather than spreading the wealth among two.

Hartnell - Giroux - Jagr
Briere - Kubina/Timonen

Simmonds - Schenn - Voracek
Read - Carle/Kubina
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