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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
Their reasoning was that since the shootout is so important in the regular season and decides so much, it is stupid that it is not in the playoffs. He stated that when they are at a bar and all the games are on, when one goes to a shootout all the attention goes to that game and people cheer and get interested. Rhea The Idiot chimed in that it would be good for the casual fan blah blah blah.

They decided it should be one full overtime then the shootout.

Screw you Jonesy.

- MBFlyerfan

I'm fine with the shootout during the regular season but I would be less then impressed to have the shootout during the playoffs. The playoffs pushes teams to it's absolute limits and continuous OT is apart of that.

I'm fine with an extra 5 minute OT and the shootout because I'd rather not have ties in the regular season and I'd rather teams not tire themselves out for 2 points, especially in a back to back night situation.

I believe things are fine the way they are right now and the biggest joke to me is changing the rules every year.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
I wish. It's brilliant.
- Jsaquella


he is pretty good, i follow both
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
I'm completely against the shootout in a playoff game. I think it would be a lousy way to decide a game. But I will say one thing. Based on being a STH for a few years. The overwhelming majority of fans, love the shootout. They all stand and there is definite excitement to it. For the regular Season, I think it's good for the game, because it's good for the fans.
- MJL


I look at shootout the same way as fighting. Fans easily take notice in both and all eyes are on it when it happens. I'm fine with the shootout and I'm fine with enforcers in the league. I'd prefer enforcers could actually play the game of hockey but overall, I'm okay with it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
I'm fine with the shootout during the regular season but I would be less then impressed to have the shootout during the playoffs. The playoffs pushes teams to it's absolute limits and continuous OT is apart of that.

I'm fine with an extra 5 minute OT and the shootout because I'd rather not have ties in the regular season and I'd rather teams not tire themselves out for 2 points, especially in a back to back night situation.

I believe things are fine the way they are right now and the biggest joke to me is changing the rules every year.

- roenick97


Problem is, you still have ties. The hockey game ended in a tie. One team won a skills competition and got rewarded as if they won a real game.

I hate that they decide a winner without playing the sport.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Imagine Lindros and Foppa on the same team for 15 years. Holy (frank) they would have won 5 cups.
- Flyers Time

15 years of Eric Lindros and Peter Forsberg playing NHL Hockey adds up to them playing 5 seasons worth of games a piece. They'd have their own Hospital Room that would look a lot like a Hotel Room because they'd rarely ever leave.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
Problem is, you still have ties. The hockey game ended in a tie. One team won a skills competition and got rewarded as if they won a real game.

I hate that they decide a winner without playing the sport.

- Jsaquella


it's a catch 22. do you want ties, shootouts or continuous overtime in the regular season? i think shootouts is a nice compromise for the regular season.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM ET
i just got a kitten and i named him holmer after paul holmgren
- flyerscup2011

that would make YOU fake Panotch!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:05 PM ET
it's a catch 22. do you want ties, shootouts or continuous overtime in the regular season? i think shootouts is a nice compromise for the regular season.
- flyerscup2011

To me it's almost like a football game ending on a field goal in OT.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
15 years of Eric Lindros and Peter Forsberg playing NHL Hockey adds up to them playing 5 seasons worth of games a piece. They'd have their own Hospital Room that would look a lot like a Hotel Room because they'd rarely ever leave.
- roenick97

Each of them missed about 25% of their teams' games in the first 10 years of their careers.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM ET
that would make YOU fake Panotch!
- bodiva88


is that true? oh man i've been calling him that for like 2 weeks. oh well i'm commited to the name now
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 9:07 PM ET
You really have to feel for Giroux. He's having a breakout season, which has been inches away from leading the league in scoring but he's always been second place to someone. Malkin had a slow start to his season but blew up. Phil Kessel had a strong start to his season but has died off. Giroux has pretty much played second fiddle to both of these guys. I'd say the only player who's been truly consistent all season long ahead of Giroux is Hank Lundqvist with the Rangers. Congrats to Malkin and everything but it's really going to suck if Giroux finishes second in scoring this season and still manages to walk away with no hardware for this year.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:09 PM ET
To me it's almost like a football game ending on a field goal in OT.
- JoeRussomanno


they need a way to settle ties, they got overwhelming feedback that sports shouldn't end in ties. i think it's the most effective and efficient way to settle a tie game. hockey is the truest of team sports and i see the objection to them. but they are entertaining and i just hate ties.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:10 PM ET
You really have to feel for Giroux. He's having a breakout season, which has been inches away from leading the league in scoring but he's always been second place to someone. Malkin had a slow start to his season but blew up. Phil Kessel had a strong start to his season but has died off. Giroux has pretty much played second fiddle to both of these guys. I'd say the only player who's been truly consistent all season long ahead of Giroux is Hank Lundqvist with the Rangers. Congrats to Malkin and everything but it's really going to suck if Giroux finishes second in scoring this season and still manages to walk away with no hardware for this year.
- roenick97


i don't feel so bad for him. wait til you see his next contract. my guess 7 years 49 million.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 9:12 PM ET
Each of them missed about 25% of their teams' games in the first 10 years of their careers.
- bodiva88

Oh, well pardon me. I guess I should have checked the numbers before making such a ridiculous statement.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:13 PM ET
You really have to feel for Giroux. He's having a breakout season, which has been inches away from leading the league in scoring but he's always been second place to someone. Malkin had a slow start to his season but blew up. Phil Kessel had a strong start to his season but has died off. Giroux has pretty much played second fiddle to both of these guys. I'd say the only player who's been truly consistent all season long ahead of Giroux is Hank Lundqvist with the Rangers. Congrats to Malkin and everything but it's really going to suck if Giroux finishes second in scoring this season and still manages to walk away with no hardware for this year.
- roenick97

I think Giroux should still be ahead of Malking for the heart. Yes Malkin is beating him out for points, fine give him the art ross. But Giroux is hitting more, blocking more shots and winning more faceoffs. Giroux does more for his team other than just score. But as long as he helps the team win the trophy that matters most to me he'll be a Hart winner every year in my mind!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:15 PM ET
they need a way to settle ties, they got overwhelming feedback that sports shouldn't end in ties. i think it's the most effective and efficient way to settle a tie game. hockey is the truest of team sports and i see the objection to them. but they are entertaining and i just hate ties.
- flyerscup2011

I don't mind it that bad. Maybe go to a different point system then I don't know I never liked ties either but when it got down to the playoffs you couldn't duck and cover in OT you still have to go out and win. I'm lukewarm with it I guess. Don't get too up when my team wins one and don't get too down when they lose one.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM ET
i don't feel so bad for him. wait til you see his next contract. my guess 7 years 49 million.
- flyerscup2011


I know it always comes back to money for some fans but for me, pride of knowing one of our own is the best at what he does is a pretty a good feeling, especially if our Flyers haven't won a Stanley Cup that season.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:18 PM ET
I know it always comes back to money for some fans but for me, pride of knowing one of our own is the best at what he does is a pretty a good feeling, especially if our Flyers haven't won a Stanley Cup that season.
- roenick97


he's had an unbelieveable season if he can keep up this kind of production eventually he'll win a major award
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 23 @ 9:20 PM ET
I think Giroux should still be ahead of Malking for the heart. Yes Malkin is beating him out for points, fine give him the art ross. But Giroux is hitting more, blocking more shots and winning more faceoffs. Giroux does more for his team other than just score. But as long as he helps the team win the trophy that matters most to me he'll be a Hart winner every year in my mind!
- JoeRussomanno

Well said. Giroux is Mr. Everything for this team. I also believe he should be ahead of Malkin. Giroux is on the top PP unit and top PK unit. He's important for us in every area of Hockey.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 23 @ 9:21 PM ET
i don't feel so bad for him. wait til you see his next contract. my guess 7 years 49 million.
- flyerscup2011


He's going to take a hometown discount. He'll still be making bank like a bro, but he'll do it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:22 PM ET
He's going to take a hometown discount. He'll still be making bank like a bro, but he'll do it.
- KGBflyers10

That might actually be the hometown discount though
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
Oh, well pardon me. I guess I should have checked the numbers before making such a ridiculous statement.
- roenick97


We take the "what if..." a little further and imagine drafting Jagr instead of Ricci the draft before...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
We take the "what if..." a little further and imagine drafting Jagr instead of Ricci the draft before...
- 77rams

THat might be the single biggest screw up on draft day this team ever made.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
You really have to feel for Giroux. He's having a breakout season, which has been inches away from leading the league in scoring but he's always been second place to someone. Malkin had a slow start to his season but blew up. Phil Kessel had a strong start to his season but has died off. Giroux has pretty much played second fiddle to both of these guys. I'd say the only player who's been truly consistent all season long ahead of Giroux is Hank Lundqvist with the Rangers. Congrats to Malkin and everything but it's really going to suck if Giroux finishes second in scoring this season and still manages to walk away with no hardware for this year.
- roenick97



Funny you said this today. Lundqvuist gave up 3 bad goals in the loss today. Not horrendous, but certainly bad by his standards. All on odd man rushes, but they were not tap-ins. He had time to get set and all were unscreened shots.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
Well said. Giroux is Mr. Everything for this team. I also believe he should be ahead of Malkin. Giroux is on the top PP unit and top PK unit. He's important for us in every area of Hockey.
- roenick97



Unfortunately, I don't think that's how it going to go. Malkin and possibly Lundqvist are ahead of Giroux for the Hart in my opinion right now.
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