- burn

Yeah... thats awesome

Schneider is older (2 years) and hasn't done it. ..... again I don't see what you are talking about.
- burn

What you just said is exactly what I'm talking about.

Don't rely on Reimer anymore. It is just a repeat of Raycroft, Toskala, etc.

Get the real deal and put the goalie issue to rest once and for all.

People misreading that whole conversation that was caught on camera on draft day.

Burke wanted Kadri but OTT wanted to trade up.

Burke asked who they wanted and it was Kadri so Burke said no.

If OTT wanted somebody else then Burke might have made the swap and then selected Kadri but then they would have had to hope DAL didn't take him also.
- leafs93

Agree.... also In the LeafsTV "behind the draft" they showed a clip of the management & scouting discussing the draft order and their board specifically showed Kadri at 7...... coincidentally right where they drafted him.

That poop about the Leafs getting screwed into taking him is ridiculous nonsense.

Then keep him but I'm pretty confident that he'll just remain the backup year after year.

I just don't want him #1 anymore until he establishes himself the way many others have before him like Schneider for example.
- leafs93

o yea, it must be hard to play less then 30 games behind a team that went to the cup finals last year and a team whose 2nd in the west.

Dont think anyone is suggesting that Reimer be the #1...Most would agree it was a mistake to go with Reimer and Gus this season...

Bring in a vet/experienced goaltender and let Reimer be the backup..
- Fruitcakenipple

See bold above, I'm pretty sure Burke declared him number 1 going into the season and then still was reluctant to give up on him until he finally caved in a little at the trade deadline.

at least someone appreciates my rants. it really grinds my gears when people want to give up on our guys. all we need is a vet reimer can learn from and watch how different he will play next year. reimer can't learn anything from gusty. they should bring giggy back lol
- matt1337

I agree with you as well, mate

I can't imagine being a sophomore in a mess like this that's filled with injuries being very much fun for a guy like Reimer. I do think a veteran to work alongside would be better as I just don't think there are many young guys out there with the mental toughness to survive in this town.

That mental toughness is one of the reasons I think Price starts for Canada in 2014. To be that good in that city for that team is a sign that he'll have a helluva career.

If we are going to go nuts on a goaltender for the next couple of years to work alongside a developing 'tender like Reimer, then perhaps Mikka Kiprusoff would be willing to move on in the event CAL misses the playoffs again and actually thinks of starting a rebuild. I'd be willing to let go of 2013s 1st and Kadri if we can get Mikka back along with a guy like Glencross AND if they take a salary like Connolly. With Kipper in net and not working as many games as he's used to in CAL, we'll have the stability we need to ensure the first rounder doesn't turn out to be a top 10.

I know it seem like we'd be giving up on Kadri but to be honest I'm starting to think he doesn't have what it takes to survive in TOR let alone under Carlyle

This team is going to shape up very differently without RW behind the bench. God I hope Franson isn't moved, he's got the size of Komi but can actually move the puck and shoot. If we give up on him too then we'd regret it in no time.

Reimer for Price and 2 firsts
- robin_steele264

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What you just said is exactly what I'm talking about.

Don't rely on Reimer anymore. It is just a repeat of Raycroft, Toskala, etc.

Get the real deal and put the goalie issue to rest once and for all.
- leafs93

Your post said that you want him to establish himself before he gets the #1 like so many others before like Schnieder. that's not what's happening.

o yea, it must be hard to play less then 30 games behind a team that went to the cup finals last year and a team whose 2nd in the west.
- matt1337

But look at how many years he's been their backup and proven himself over and over again.

Nobody knocking down the door to get Reimer but I'm sure they will be for Schneider. If you can't see that then you have bigger problems.

Reimer thrown into the fire way too early and with little success.

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- Dgrdnr

We'll think about it.....

Your post said that you want him to establish himself before he gets the #1 like so many others before like Schnieder. that's not what's happening.
- burn

Establish himself as a backup.

But look at how many years he's been their backup and proven himself over and over again.

Nobody knocking down the door to get Reimer but I'm sure they will be for Schneider. If you can't see that then you have bigger problems.

Reimer thrown into the fire way too early and with little success.
- leafs93

He's 2 years older.... what happens when in 2 years Reimer is in the same spot as Schnieder and we dumped him and still are looking for a goalie?

He's 2 years older.... what happens when in 2 years Reimer is in the same spot as Schnieder and we dumped him and still are looking for a goalie?
- burn

I'm saying get a bonafide #1 and then dump him. If we have a great goalie then who cares what he does somewhere else.

Best case scenario he does what Schneider is doing and lands us something good.

Agree.... also In the LeafsTV "behind the draft" they showed a clip of the management & scouting discussing the draft order and their board specifically showed Kadri at 7...... coincidentally right where they drafted him.

That poop about the Leafs getting screwed into taking him is ridiculous nonsense.
- burn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwxqO6dQIPc

i dont know, i think he was waiting for murray to be like, wait, i want that kid lets make a deal but he didnt so burke had to stick with his guns or he would've looked stupid.

i've never seen the board that showed kadri at 7 but thats just what it seems like to me

See bold above, I'm pretty sure Burke declared him number 1 going into the season and then still was reluctant to give up on him until he finally caved in a little at the trade deadline.
- leafs93

I meant next season...

LOL...So Burke made a mistake declaring him #1... That Doesn't mean Reimer should be taken out back and shot....

I'm saying get a bonafide #1 and then dump him. If we have a great goalie then who cares what he does somewhere else.

Best case scenario he does what Schneider is doing and lands us something good.
- leafs93

but you are talking about dumping hims and we don't have that #1 so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwxqO6dQIPc

i dont know, i think he was waiting for murray to be like, wait, i want that kid lets make a deal but he didnt so burke had to stick with his guns or he would've looked stupid.

i've never seen the board that showed kadri at 7 but thats just what it seems like to me
- matt1337

Nope.

But look at how many years he's been their backup and proven himself over and over again.

Nobody knocking down the door to get Reimer but I'm sure they will be for Schneider. If you can't see that then you have bigger problems.

Reimer thrown into the fire way too early and with little success.
- leafs93

i think you should look at how many years hes been the back up. whats your guess? 5 years? no, its only been 2 years only when vancouver had a legit team

I meant next season...

LOL...So Burke made a mistake declaring him #1... That Doesn't mean Reimer should be taken out back and shot....
- Fruitcakenipple

Never said they should do that.

But if Reimer goes 6-0 the rest of the way with 3 shutouts and totally stands on his head, what happens next season?

That is what scares me.

Nope.
- burn

thats just my perspective. if you show me that board i will def change my opinion

Never said they should do that.

But if Reimer goes 6-0 the rest of the way with 3 shutouts and totally stands on his head, what happens next season?

That is what scares me.
- leafs93

the only way he wins 6 in a row is if he completely stands on his head cause this team has nothing going for them especially with more injuries. the slump will continue

Never said they should do that.

But if Reimer goes 6-0 the rest of the way with 3 shutouts and totally stands on his head, what happens next season?

That is what scares me.
- leafs93

LOL...I dont think u have anything to worry about...

i think you should look at how many years hes been the back up. whats your guess? 5 years? no, its only been 2 years only when vancouver had a legit team
- matt1337

Well its basically been 2 years for Reimer, guess he isn't working out.

Well its basically been 2 years for Reimer, guess he isn't working out.
- leafs93

lol behind a team not nearly as good as vancouvers. plus he started off good but had a serious injury like miller did. look how long it took miller to get back his confidence after he came back from his concussion. same applies with reimer

The great ones come in and are lights out before 24. And usually they are ranked quite high before then unlike Reimer.

I'm just saying that we need a big time goalie, not a glorified backup.

Sounds like we are hoping that Reimer is one of those guys who was never going to amount to much and then suddenly figures things out a la Tim Thomas.

The question is how many guys turn it around like Tim Thomas? A heck of a lot less than the number of goalies who light it up before 24.
- leafs93

Who are these great ones that have come in prior to age 24 .. and been ranked (read drafted higher)? Please do tell.