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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hey all, long time ghost decided to join, since there's very few people I can actually talk to about this crappy team
- Danformo


Welcome aboard. Same here...hard enough to find hockey fans, and where I live north of the City, anyone who does watch hockey is a Rangers fan.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
I agree that there are players that can make the jump right from the draft to the NHL and some that take time to develop and should not be rushed. Nino was done with juniors and cou ldn't play in the AHL bcs of his age, I understand having him play in the NHL but to use (or misuse rather) a young player the way he was by Snow/Capuano was absurd. Having him play on that line with as little minutes as he was given could've only had a negative effect on his development.
- Cptmjl

Why do you say that? What exactly were his numbers in his last season in Portland? Just because he was possible developed beyond the WHL does not mean he was ready for the NHL. The team should have erred on the side of caution. Nino shouldn't be sent to the NHL just because that's the only place he's age-eligible to play in besides juniors. He should have only been put on the team if he was ready to play and contribute at that level, which he obviously was not.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 11:00 AM ET
Why do you say that? What exactly were his numbers in his last season in Portland? Just because he was possible developed beyond the WHL does not mean he was ready for the NHL. The team should have erred on the side of caution. Nino shouldn't be sent to the NHL just because that's the only place he's age-eligible to play in besides juniors. He should have only been put on the team if he was ready to play and contribute at that level, which he obviously was not.
- Jethro09




We go over this ground a lot...people talk like Nino was lighting the world on fire putting up Tavares-esque numbers down there and getting bored with the lack of competition. He put up good numbers, but certainly nothing superhuman where you'd say he's just toying with people down there.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:01 AM ET
Why do you say that? What exactly were his numbers in his last season in Portland? Just because he was possible developed beyond the WHL does not mean he was ready for the NHL. The team should have erred on the side of caution. Nino shouldn't be sent to the NHL just because that's the only place he's age-eligible to play in besides juniors. He should have only been put on the team if he was ready to play and contribute at that level, which he obviously was not.
- Jethro09

I personally did not see him play in juniors but from what I read he outgrow his junior team as well as competition. You can look up his numbers if you like, from what I remember they were impressive as were his numbers in the playoffs. In retrospect he should've stayed with them, anything is better than playing seven minutes a game on a line with Reasoner. Personally I think the age rule in the AHL is moronic, he obviously would've been better suited there but I honestly wonder whether he would've been sent there anyway?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:10 AM ET


We go over this ground a lot...people talk like Nino was lighting the world on fire putting up Tavares-esque numbers down there and getting bored with the lack of competition. He put up good numbers, but certainly nothing superhuman where you'd say he's just toying with people down there.

- UIF

I really don't think 44 goals and 70 pts in 55 games is too shabby, add to that 27 points in 21 playoff games. Add to that playing in a more physical league than the OHL, I believe thats where alot of the "lack of competition" comments were coming from that I read at least. I remember hearing "a man playing amongst boys" on a few different occaisions. Its not relevant, he would've been better served playing in juniors then the way he was utilized by Snow/Capuano.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
Hello Danformo I am Kasperrko. Let me just say I hate DP and JAck and few others on this team. You will get used to it and end up chewing me out soon enough.
ovi8isles
New York Islanders
Location: barry melrose house, NY
Joined: 12.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
Hello Danformo I am Kasperrko. Let me just say I hate DP and JAck and few others on this team. You will get used to it and end up chewing me out soon enough.
- kasperrko


do you think the isles let you trade in your dp jeresy at the game for a nabby jeresy?
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
do you think the isles let you trade in your dp jeresy at the game for a nabby jeresy?
- ovi8isles


I think they are going to have all the fans come down to ice and throw all there DP jerseys, bobbleheads and anything else associated with him and throw it into a big pit of fire and make beleive he never existed. I mean did he really exist? Seriously? The kids are like who is DP? Was he any good? Well that was a long conversation needless to say
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
Because the islanders already have the same type of players who are signed to contracts already. So unless they move someone, there is no reason to resign PA for what he is going to get. If you think he's a first line player, then by all means, your argument makes sense. But, to me, they arent winning and are in need of physical play. Call him the odd man out, but I dont think he fits on this team unless he is signed for a reasonable amount. IF, he was going to sign for a reasonable amount then yes, he'd be perfect for a 2nd line but he's going to test the waters, and he will get paid.
- kindlyrick



i agree with everything you said about him being the odd man out and the isles need to be more physical but than you say if he signs for a reasonable amount than he is a perfect fit? i dont get it....
ovi8isles
New York Islanders
Location: barry melrose house, NY
Joined: 12.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:23 AM ET
I think they are going to have all the fans come down to ice and throw all there DP jerseys, bobbleheads and anything else associated with him and throw it into a big pit of fire and make beleive he never existed. I mean did he really exist? Seriously? The kids are like who is DP? Was he any good? Well that was a long conversation needless to say
- kasperrko


they did tht in columbus when jeff carter left everybod got jack johnson jeresy instead
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't think P.A. is soft. I think he gives you more on that front than his size tells you he should. It's not like it's a lot but in a big game, I trust Parenteau to be more physically engaged and and into the game then Okposo and Grabner
- Isles316



compared to the players on the team, pa is one of the more tough guys. if comparing to the rest of the league, he is soft.

you cant say just because he is physically more engaging compared to KO and MG therefore he is tough....thats like trying to decide who is the richest between 3 homeless guys
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
I personally did not see him play in juniors but from what I read he outgrow his junior team as well as competition. You can look up his numbers if you like, from what I remember they were impressive as were his numbers in the playoffs. In retrospect he should've stayed with them, anything is better than playing seven minutes a game on a line with Reasoner. Personally I think the age rule in the AHL is moronic, he obviously would've been better suited there but I honestly wonder whether he would've been sent there anyway?
- Cptmjl


His numbers were not even tops on his team, let alone the WHL. 70 points in 55 games. Very good, but it's not like he was shattering records down there. Just to put it in context, if he put up 70 points on this year's Portland Winterhawks team, he'd be fourth behind Rattie (121 points), Bartschi (94) and Ross (82).

Last season, his 70 points did not crack the top 20 scorers in the WHL. In fact, not the top 40 either, as he was 43rd. And Isles' 2011 5th round draft pick Brenden Kichton, a defenseman, put up more points than Nino last year (81).

In fairness, a lot of players on the scoring chart played mid-60s games rather than mid-50s like Nino since he did the nine-game NHL stint, but my point stands...the guy only played two seasons of hockey in North America before the Isles decided he had "nothing left to learn" (or that they needed his $3m cap hit to reach the floor...). I don't think I'm alone in thinking he still could have learned a thing or two in juniors playing major minutes. Certainly he could have worked on his skating and defensive game down there, since they were definitely not NHL-ready this year.

Edit -- just one more thing to point out. Josh Bailey, who everyone agrees should have went back to juniors after he was drafted, put up 96 points in his last year at Windsor.
ovi8isles
New York Islanders
Location: barry melrose house, NY
Joined: 12.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
compared to the players on the team, pa is one of the more tough guys. if comparing to the rest of the league, he is soft.

you cant say just because he is physically more engaging compared to KO and MG therefore he is tough....thats like trying to decide who is the richest between 3 homeless guys

- LetsGoIsles


homeless guy number 3 is the richest because he just became poor.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:30 AM ET
His numbers were not even tops on his team, let alone the WHL. 70 points in 55 games. Very good, but it's not like he was shattering records down there. Just to put it in context, if he put up 70 points on this year's Portland Winterhawks team, he'd be fourth behind Rattie (121 points), Bartschi (94) and Ross (82).

Last season, his 70 points did not crack the top 20 scorers in the WHL. In fact, not the top 40 either, as he was 43rd. And Isles' 2011 5th round draft pick Brenden Kichton, a defenseman, put up more points than Nino last year (81).

In fairness, a lot of players on the scoring chart played mid-60s games rather than mid-50s like Nino since he did the nine-game NHL stint, but my point stands...the guy only played two seasons of hockey in North America before the Isles decided he had "nothing left to learn" (or that they needed his $3m cap hit to reach the floor...). I don't think I'm alone in thinking he still could have learned a thing or two in juniors playing major minutes. Certainly he could have worked on his skating and defensive game down there, since they were definitely not NHL-ready this year.

- UIF


Correct a Mondo Mr.C!

XxNYIxX
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:32 AM ET
I personally did not see him play in juniors but from what I read he outgrow his junior team as well as competition. You can look up his numbers if you like, from what I remember they were impressive as were his numbers in the playoffs. In retrospect he should've stayed with them, anything is better than playing seven minutes a game on a line with Reasoner. Personally I think the age rule in the AHL is moronic, he obviously would've been better suited there but I honestly wonder whether he would've been sent there anyway?
- Cptmjl

It is, I think they put it in place to help the vets who are barely hanging onto a hockey career keep jobs that teams would rather give to 19 year olds. But it doesn't make sense.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
It is, I think they put it in place to help the vets who are barely hanging onto a hockey career keep jobs that teams would rather give to 19 year olds. But it doesn't make sense.
- Jethro09


I'm pretty sure it's there at the request of the CHL teams. They have tickets to sell too, and if everyone pulled out their 18 and 19 year old prospects, there'd be a serious talent drain.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
nabby
- ovi8isles



pretty sure the "who" was a joke in reference to DP
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
His quote about his contract.
“I am thrilled to continue what we started,” “Obviously the goal is to make the playoffs. I think this year it will be tough to accomplish that, but next year we’ll start from scratch. I’m happy to be a part of it. I want to be a part of it.”

Even after last year, im happy with how things turned out.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



ovi8isles
New York Islanders
Location: barry melrose house, NY
Joined: 12.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
pretty sure the "who" was a joke in reference to DP
- LetsGoIsles


what?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:53 AM ET

- LetsGoIsles


Hey the playoff push started last game.... it will be tough... but Nabby likes to keep things in perspective!

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 22 @ 11:56 AM ET
what?
- ovi8isles



Where?

XxNYIxX
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 11:57 AM ET
prob was nervous
- ovi8isles

He wasn't a jerk about it... He was very nice considering he was a 300 game winner at a table with no one near him and DP had about 5000 people on a line.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 22 @ 12:01 PM ET
do you think the isles let you trade in your dp jeresy at the game for a nabby jeresy?
- ovi8isles


no.. b/c DP never did anything wrong. He got injured... kept trying to rehab and got injured again... 5 or 6 surgeries later he was still trying to come back. He killed the islanders but unlike Kasperko I can't hate the man for injuries and the Islanders would never do anything that disrespectful to a guy who was the face of the franchise for a while.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
no.. b/c DP never did anything wrong. He got injured... kept trying to rehab and got injured again... 5 or 6 surgeries later he was still trying to come back. He killed the islanders but unlike Kasperko I can't hate the man for injuries and the Islanders would never do anything that disrespectful to a guy who was the face of the franchise for a while.
- niteislander


He was teh face for like 3 years till his body gave out on him. It was sad but I disliked DP from teh moment his name was mentioned at the draft. I am glad to see that he turned out to be a bust. I knew it from teh get go
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 22 @ 12:05 PM ET
Where?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


How??
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