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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
Only downside is he'll be 37 next year and may have gotten quite a bit for him at the deadline (certainly more than he'd get next year).

I bet Detroit wishes they had him right now.

- stormeyAlterEgo



the advantage of the one year deal is that garth could (hopefully the isles will be in the hunt next year) be in the same exact position at the deadline and actually pull the trigger on a deal...if necessary.
NYIsles16
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 08.19.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Now with Nabokov resigned, we can cross one thing off the offseason checklist before it's even the offseason. Now, there are a few other things we need to get done:

1. Sign Zach Parise to a 5-year, $50-$55 million deal. Front-load the first year of the contract for the league max salary so that he is not concerned about any CBA issues. Plus, with all of our backloaded contracts, we should have the financial means. It would be hard to turn down that kind of money, and maybe his father's history here on LI will help bring him. Plus, it wouldn't hurt playing next to Tavares and Moulson.

2. Try to sign Ryan Suter for 5 years, $40-$45 million. Again, front-load the contract. It is doubtful that he is going to get $8 million per year from any other team, and we have to spend such a large amount of money before we even get to the salary floor that it seems like a no-brainer.

3. Re-sign PA Parenteau to a 3 to 4 year deal worth $3.5 to $4 million per year. I do think he is a 65 point player per season, but I'm still wary of his size and his susceptibility to bad penalties and bad turnovers. However, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals, so we do have to cough up some money.

4. Last, but most important, we must let Jack Capuano go, and it must be done before July 1st comes. We need to sign a legitimate coach, someone who we can advertise to players on July 1st when we're trying to sign them. It's much easier to try to sign a player and say that you have Bob Hartley or Craig MacTavish coaching than it is with Capuano.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
Whether or not trading him for any sort of value was ever on the table or not is something none of us know. All I do know is that the reality of signing him to a 1 year extension is a good move for the team.
- Lohaus

Sure. I'd agree with that. But if Isles fans are saying the no-trade thing is a good thing and the plan is to try and move him next year then my only point was that his value would have been higher this year.

niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:09 PM ET

- HotSauceBlueChs

Scott Norwood.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
A good guess is not a report.
- isles10289



this!!....

well, he did say he is the next eklund....look where guessing got him....
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Mar 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
Now with Nabokov resigned, we can cross one thing off the offseason checklist before it's even the offseason. Now, there are a few other things we need to get done:

1. Sign Zach Parise to a 5-year, $50-$55 million deal. Front-load the first year of the contract for the league max salary so that he is not concerned about any CBA issues. Plus, with all of our backloaded contracts, we should have the financial means. It would be hard to turn down that kind of money, and maybe his father's history here on LI will help bring him. Plus, it wouldn't hurt playing next to Tavares and Moulson.

2. Try to sign Ryan Suter for 5 years, $40-$45 million. Again, front-load the contract. It is doubtful that he is going to get $8 million per year from any other team, and we have to spend such a large amount of money before we even get to the salary floor that it seems like a no-brainer.

3. Re-sign PA Parenteau to a 3 to 4 year deal worth $3.5 to $4 million per year. I do think he is a 65 point player per season, but I'm still wary of his size and his susceptibility to bad penalties and bad turnovers. However, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals, so we do have to cough up some money.

4. Last, but most important, we must let Jack Capuano go, and it must be done before July 1st comes. We need to sign a legitimate coach, someone who we can advertise to players on July 1st when we're trying to sign them. It's much easier to try to sign a player and say that you have Bob Hartley or Craig MacTavish coaching than it is with Capuano.

- NYIsles16
Why the Isles never drafted Parise will always bother me. He was the pick, similar to when Ottawa picked Brian frickin Lee over marc Staal. The pick was there, it was obvious and both teams went off the board. Hell Parise even said he wanted to play for the Isles and they still went overseas. I hope the Isles do sign Parise. He should have been an Islander anyways.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
hello stormey
- jsr1034

Hey Jsr. Been a while....not that this is a bad thing.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
Sure. I'd agree with that. But if Isles fans are saying the no-trade thing is a good thing and the plan is to try and move him next year then my only point was that his value would have been higher this year.
- stormeyAlterEgo


Isles have 2 very good goalie prospects in Nillson and Poulin. This signing tells me a few things. 1. DP is done b/c Nabby would not have signed if he wasn't (i-bob was right). 2. If they are comfortable with Nillson of Poulin next year at trade deadline they will move Nabby. His value will not be any worse or better than this year. .. more than likely a 3rd round pick.. maybe a second.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
Sure. I'd agree with that. But if Isles fans are saying the no-trade thing is a good thing and the plan is to try and move him next year then my only point was that his value would have been higher this year.
- stormeyAlterEgo



true!!!!....unless of course he has a better season next year.....
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
Now with Nabokov resigned, we can cross one thing off the offseason checklist before it's even the offseason. Now, there are a few other things we need to get done:

1. Sign Zach Parise to a 5-year, $50-$55 million deal. Front-load the first year of the contract for the league max salary so that he is not concerned about any CBA issues. Plus, with all of our backloaded contracts, we should have the financial means. It would be hard to turn down that kind of money, and maybe his father's history here on LI will help bring him. Plus, it wouldn't hurt playing next to Tavares and Moulson.

2. Try to sign Ryan Suter for 5 years, $40-$45 million. Again, front-load the contract. It is doubtful that he is going to get $8 million per year from any other team, and we have to spend such a large amount of money before we even get to the salary floor that it seems like a no-brainer.

3. Re-sign PA Parenteau to a 3 to 4 year deal worth $3.5 to $4 million per year. I do think he is a 65 point player per season, but I'm still wary of his size and his susceptibility to bad penalties and bad turnovers. However, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals, so we do have to cough up some money.

4. Last, but most important, we must let Jack Capuano go, and it must be done before July 1st comes. We need to sign a legitimate coach, someone who we can advertise to players on July 1st when we're trying to sign them. It's much easier to try to sign a player and say that you have Bob Hartley or Craig MacTavish coaching than it is with Capuano.

- NYIsles16


Lol. Where are the Islanders getting all this money? Just because they have cap space doesn't mean they have actual money to spend to the cap. Wang is in the process of another season where he's losing money. Stop expecting Parise and Suter; it's not happening. There are winning teams that can offer them big money.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
Now with Nabokov resigned, we can cross one thing off the offseason checklist before it's even the offseason. Now, there are a few other things we need to get done:

1. Sign Zach Parise to a 5-year, $50-$55 million deal. Front-load the first year of the contract for the league max salary so that he is not concerned about any CBA issues. Plus, with all of our backloaded contracts, we should have the financial means. It would be hard to turn down that kind of money, and maybe his father's history here on LI will help bring him. Plus, it wouldn't hurt playing next to Tavares and Moulson.

2. Try to sign Ryan Suter for 5 years, $40-$45 million. Again, front-load the contract. It is doubtful that he is going to get $8 million per year from any other team, and we have to spend such a large amount of money before we even get to the salary floor that it seems like a no-brainer.

3. Re-sign PA Parenteau to a 3 to 4 year deal worth $3.5 to $4 million per year. I do think he is a 65 point player per season, but I'm still wary of his size and his susceptibility to bad penalties and bad turnovers. However, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals, so we do have to cough up some money.

4. Last, but most important, we must let Jack Capuano go, and it must be done before July 1st comes. We need to sign a legitimate coach, someone who we can advertise to players on July 1st when we're trying to sign them. It's much easier to try to sign a player and say that you have Bob Hartley or Craig MacTavish coaching than it is with Capuano.

- NYIsles16



interesting list. i agree for the most part obviously but you kind of contradict yourself when you say "we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals" and then 2 paragraphs prior to that comment you say, sign parise.

having said that i obviously agree with 1,2 and 4, its just a matter of if 1 and 2 want to sign here and 4 should be a shoo-in.

as for 3, id swap PAP for a bigger body that will stick up for his teammates while putting up solid points and doing the intangibles.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
true!!!!....unless of course he has a better season next year.....
- LetsGoIsles

Possible....relatively unlikely....but possible.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
A good guess is not a report.
- isles10289


Hey my friend it was not a guess at all it was fact. Just took longer then everyone thought
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
Lol. Where are the Islanders getting all this money? Just because they have cap space doesn't mean they have actual money to spend to the cap. Wang is in the process of another season where he's losing money. Stop expecting Parise and Suter; it's not happening. There are winning teams that can offer them big money.
- isles10289



no said anything about cap space....reaching the cap floor, thats a different story...and there is a LOT of money that needs to be spent to get there....
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
It also helps show the league...

"I did NOT want to goto Long Island.. I did NOT want my contract held over to the next year... But I got there.. and.. well.. They have a good bunch of kids, they have a solid core for the future, the Island is a great place to live.. im really happy here & i want to be here to turn it all around.
*Of course this wasn't said by him, but his actions have*

This signing is a very important message to the rest of the league.. Long Island is a great place to play!

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

once again a player gets to the Island and loves it. happens every time. Great schools, great neighborhoods, close to 3 major airports, great food, train into Manhattan, great beaches, etc. etc. etc.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
this!!....

well, he did say he is the next eklund....look where guessing got him....

- LetsGoIsles


Well at least one thing I said is right so I am actually ahead of him
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Mar 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Sure. I'd agree with that. But if Isles fans are saying the no-trade thing is a good thing and the plan is to try and move him next year then my only point was that his value would have been higher this year.
- stormeyAlterEgo

Not necessarily though. You are only looking at age in your equation and I suppose an arguement that his ability to play the game is on a steady decline.

Probably the main factor why he wasn't traded was because of the possible suitor's offers. We'll assume they were no acceptable since he was traded and the question is why were they low? There weren't any major goaltending injuries at the time, at least not the long term variety. No one is going to trade a 1st for a backup, might not even trade a second, but hyptothetically, if there were four teams in the top 10 of the NHL standings who saw injury issues arise with their goalies, the urgency to make the move would be there and prices rise by supply and demnd.

Bottom line... if no one really needed a goalie, to the point where they needed a starter or they had no shot of competing (similar to TBay last season) then there wouldn't have been a sellers market, regardless of whether or not Nabby was 34 or 37.

For that reason, signing him to another 1 year deal is perfect as the same scenario occurs for the Isles next year and they'll probably be in the same boat but maybe the market will be more in their favor.
jsr1034
New York Islanders
Location: Doo wacko!, NY
Joined: 06.19.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Hey Jsr. Been a while....not that this is a bad thing.
- stormeyAlterEgo


good to see you too
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Now with Nabokov resigned, we can cross one thing off the offseason checklist before it's even the offseason. Now, there are a few other things we need to get done:

1. Sign Zach Parise to a 5-year, $50-$55 million deal. Front-load the first year of the contract for the league max salary so that he is not concerned about any CBA issues. Plus, with all of our backloaded contracts, we should have the financial means. It would be hard to turn down that kind of money, and maybe his father's history here on LI will help bring him. Plus, it wouldn't hurt playing next to Tavares and Moulson.

2. Try to sign Ryan Suter for 5 years, $40-$45 million. Again, front-load the contract. It is doubtful that he is going to get $8 million per year from any other team, and we have to spend such a large amount of money before we even get to the salary floor that it seems like a no-brainer.

3. Re-sign PA Parenteau to a 3 to 4 year deal worth $3.5 to $4 million per year. I do think he is a 65 point player per season, but I'm still wary of his size and his susceptibility to bad penalties and bad turnovers. However, we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals, so we do have to cough up some money.

4. Last, but most important, we must let Jack Capuano go, and it must be done before July 1st comes. We need to sign a legitimate coach, someone who we can advertise to players on July 1st when we're trying to sign them. It's much easier to try to sign a player and say that you have Bob Hartley or Craig MacTavish coaching than it is with Capuano.

- NYIsles16



you had me at Parise
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
once again a player gets to the Island and loves it. happens every time. Great schools, great neighborhoods, close to 3 major airports, great food, train into Manhattan, great beaches, etc. etc. etc.
- niteislander


Plus Kasperrko lives here what is there not to like??
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
you had me at Parise
- niteislander


Great list unfortunatly none of that is going to happen. Garth alredy made his moves now for the offseason so there is no pressure. WE signed a goalie and made a trade with Boston he is done until at least 2014
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:21 PM ET
interesting list. i agree for the most part obviously but you kind of contradict yourself when you say "we'd be hard-pressed to find anyone willing to sign here to replace his point totals" and then 2 paragraphs prior to that comment you say, sign parise.

having said that i obviously agree with 1,2 and 4, its just a matter of if 1 and 2 want to sign here and 4 should be a shoo-in.

as for 3, id swap PAP for a bigger body that will stick up for his teammates while putting up solid points and doing the intangibles.

- LetsGoIsles


Who? It's not that hard to pull up a free agents list; there's no one close to as good as Parenteau available with the characteristics you require.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
Plus Kasperrko lives here what is there not to like??
- kasperrko


isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
no said anything about cap space....reaching the cap floor, thats a different story...and there is a LOT of money that needs to be spent to get there....
- LetsGoIsles


Not really. They aren't signing Parise to a $10M per year deal AND Suter to an $8M per year deal. That brings them way over the cap floor, closer to the cap ceiling. They are a couple of million under, if that. Once they re-sign PAP, they will easily be over the floor. Wang is losing $20M a year on the Islanders; he's not spending much past the floor. Please get Parise and Suter out of your heads; winning teams can offer them similar money. Detroit and Los Angeles have been waiting for Parise; big spending teams always look for defense.
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
Hey my friend it was not a guess at all it was fact. Just took longer then everyone thought
- kasperrko


It wasn't a fact because he signed today.
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