Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Ken Beckett: Clean Up on Isle Five - Leafs Fall 5-2 to Visiting Islanders
Author Message
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
He just said "great" for (frank)'s sake.
- Jayden


Illiterate.
Jhockley
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Port Perry, ON
Joined: 03.05.2012

Mar 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Ok. Let me get this straight with you. It'll be the last time I explain this to you...

He's OUR NUMBER ONE GOALTENDER. The fact that he's elite or not is irrelevant. He probably never will be.

He needs to be consistant. We saw last year that he could. Giving up on a goalie based on a bad year is wrong.

- thomas81


calling a goaltender a #1 based on half a season of good play is wrong
Leafsfan9329
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Largo, FL
Joined: 07.28.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
You're going to base this on what, 20 games?

He was great last year and was solid before he was seriously injured. You don't think he can bounce back next season? Boy oh boy do you guys give up on players fast. Schenn, Reimer, Kadri... Who else can we trade for next to nothing in the summer?

- thomas81



Dude stop, WE don't agree with your opinion plain and simple. You can say what ever you want It definetly won't change my mind that the Leafs need a goaltender. Yeah Reimer was injured and perhaps that affected his play this year.

However Burke is in no position to go forward into next year on What ifs or the fact Reimer had a concussion, His job is on the line whether he realizes it or not because if he doesn't change this roster for the better people will want him gone.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Hi Dozzer,

please never, ever ban thomas81.


thanks,
dt
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
The same amount of games that you're basing his suckness on.
- thomas81


Verdict's still out on Reimer in my opinion. That doesn't mean a proven #1 shouldn't be a top priority for next year. I would start Reimer in the AHL next year to see if he can get his head straight before giving him another shot at the dance.

You're the one claiming he's the real deal based on 20 starts and chastising people for saying he's a pretender based on 20 starts.
PootieTang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
I think giving up two for Kessel was enough, if history shows anything he will more than likely try to move up in the draft then give it away. As I mentioned earlier trading with the Oilers could be possible, as they could land their D man still and have one step in to the NHL right away from the Leafs, plus another pick later on. They really don't need another forward, and if they did I think Gaunce would be more to what they want up there.
- Boosinicka

The only Russian guy I want in this draft is Yakupov. The other has questionable work ethic and the other seems too risky (just from what I have read). The rest seem to be D-men going early.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
But you don't think he can work on all of that in the summer and get back to that level?

It's basically a wash. Throw another young player out the door based a poor second half season by the whole team.

- thomas81

All anyone meant was that #1 on your team does not mean he's an actual #1 goaltender.

(frank) sakes..
Timeforsoup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON
Joined: 10.15.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
I'll never call for ''Tank Nation''. What a mockery. What an absolute joke.

You guys call yourselves fans? Wanting a team to lose is as pathetic as it gets.

- thomas81


Time to jump down off of the high horse chump. Settling for mediocrity doesn't make you a true fan.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Yet, he needs to sign or become a FA just like Blake Wheeler did to the Yotes
- AdamFrench

I hope he signs with the Canucks being from Kelowna!
Jayden
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Time to jump down off of the high horse chump. Settling for mediocrity doesn't make you a true fan.
- Timeforsoup


Exactly. There's a difference between 'fan' and "delusional fanatic".
leafs_wingp
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.29.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Kessel is elite people. Stop with the nonsense.

Last 82 games played.

Malkin - 98 points
Giroux - 93 points
Stamkos - 92 points
Spezza - 88 points
Kessel - 86 points


Crosby... 106 points.

So stop saying Kessel is just a complimentary player.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
The only Russian guy I want in this draft is Yakupov. The other has questionable work ethic and the other seems too risky (just from what I have read). The rest seem to be D-men going early.
- PootieTang


So you're talking about Yakupov and Grigorenko, right? Galchenyuk's an Amurrikan.
PootieTang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Agreed. Kessel isn't anything great.
- thomas81

And you're calling other people illiterate? I am a big Kessel fan but have reasonable expectations for him. Get a grip brah.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
I hope he signs with the Canucks being from Kelowna!
- LeftCoaster

Stop trying to get all these good young FA's
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
But you don't think he can work on all of that in the summer and get back to that level?

It's basically a wash. Throw another young player out the door based a poor second half season by the whole team.

- thomas81


when did i say throw him out the door?

i didnt thats when.

how about do things properly and sign a veteran to mentor him for a couple years?

wait til he is 100% ready and there are no question marks surrounding his game.. ya know.. like most teams do.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
The Ducks don't own Schultz?
- 1979AD

still unsigned....will be a ufa july 1st
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
Kessel is elite people. Stop with the nonsense.

Last 82 games played.

Malkin - 98 points
Giroux - 93 points
Stamkos - 92 points
Spezza - 88 points
Kessel - 86 points


Crosby... 106 points.

So stop saying Kessel is just a complimentary player.

- leafs_wingp


In terms of scoring only, sure. Look at the rest of that list - how many would you not trade Kessel for?
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
still unsigned....will be a ufa july 1st
- Barx


Beauty. Gardiner and Schultz would be unreal.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hi Dozzer,

please never, ever ban thomas81.


thanks,
dt

- dt99999


he's more than fine. he just has an opinion and he is entitled to it

leafs93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
absurd.. sure he has playmaking abilities but to build a team around the guy is just plain stupid

and you dismiss lupul before kessel?

it wouldnt have to do with him playing a wing he was more comfortable with?

or him being finally healthy after two injury plagued seasons?

no no.. wouldnt have anything to do with that at all.

- Dozzer


I never said build the team around him. I just said he makes players around him better when it was said he doesn't.

Look at Lupul's stats before his injury. I don't care what wing he plays on. That makes him one dimensional anyways. Kessel scored before Lupul came and he'll keep scoring long after Lupul leaves.

Kessel is 24 years old. He sneezes 30 goal seasons. Won't be 25 until the beginning of next season.

Many other roster spots available for bringing in a leader type that the team can be built around.

Leafsfan9329
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Largo, FL
Joined: 07.28.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
Kessel is elite people. Stop with the nonsense.

Last 82 games played.

Malkin - 98 points
Giroux - 93 points
Stamkos - 92 points
Spezza - 88 points
Kessel - 86 points


Crosby... 106 points.

So stop saying Kessel is just a complimentary player.

- leafs_wingp



Now compare those players +/-
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
Now compare those players +/-
- Leafsfan9329











It was a joke, right?
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
Dude stop, WE don't agree with your opinion plain and simple. You can say what ever you want It definetly won't change my mind that the Leafs need a goaltender. Yeah Reimer was injured and perhaps that affected his play this year.

However Burke is in no position to go forward into next year on What ifs or the fact Reimer had a concussion, His job is on the line whether he realizes it or not because if he doesn't change this roster for the better people will want him gone.

- Leafsfan9329


The fact of the matter is that teams don't trade #1 goaltenders. The simplest way (although most frustrating) is to develop them.

Keep Reimer and Gus. This team does NOT have to make the playoffs next year. Clearly we are not a contender yet and that will tkae a few years. In the mean time, why not try and develop the talent we have already?

Colborne, Kadri, Blacker, Ross, Mckegg, Scrivens etc.. Plus our upcoming picks will all start to look nice.

What I want from this team is to ship out guys like Connolly, Komi, Army, Lombo, etc.. and give some of the young guys time to play in the big leagues.

I'm hoping at least 3 of the current Marlies are on the Leafs roster come next season
leafs93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
Now compare those players +/-
- Leafsfan9329


First compare their goalie situations, then throw +/- out the window.

Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
Beauty. Gardiner and Schultz would be unreal.
- 1979AD

..yeah....cept, what are the chances he wants to join up for a voyage on the titanic?
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44  Next