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GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:42 AM ET
Both turned out to be solid NHL players.
- imsorry66


Not "bad" picks, but not "home runs" which you really need to hit in the top 5.

There are not nearly as many top 5 misses now as their used to be. I think the younger players are bigger, stronger, better prepared and coached and it takes away *some* of the guessing game.

I think if I was a scout I would be looking at size, speed, mental toughness and grit over scoring touch and points...

Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:42 AM ET

- AdamFrench




The only girl I would marry and take her last name... then I would be Byron Byron
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
Wow .... I will believe it when I see it.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.co...4pmkK2TSisAYJNXF1hkAJfwM6

- imsorry66


Nope...wont happen...hell pot 15 goals to finish the season and you guys will keep him
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
The best you can HOPE for from a top 3 pick is for someone like Getzlaf

Therefore, you give up the HOPE plus a Colborne, who is also HOPE, plus a useful plug like Kuli

Do that deal every single day

I will always take the sure thing over HOPE

- faceto27



i doubt ANA is gonna take a high 1st round pick, a B level prospect and a winger who can't score goals for their star center.

ANA would ask for the leafs gave up in the kessel deal, at least.

...and that's my point. they're better off to just draft the next 'getzlaf' than sell the farm to acquire one (at this point!). if the leafs had a team that was 1 impact player away, sure, you don't pass up on a player as talented as getzlaf. but they're not. the leafs are a rebuilding team who's GM refuses to admit and follow through with it.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
For all the advocates of tanking and retanking to get high draft pics

The Leafs in the 80's had a top 7 pick each and EVERY single year that decade, including a first overall and two 3rd overall picks

The draft is no sure fire way to build......... you need to get lucky too

- faceto27


Drafting has improved.. I dont think you can use draft 25-30 years ago as examples... maybe in the past 10-15 tops. See who are the top 5 picks... a high % shot at being a great player
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
Pacioretty was a solid pick as well.
- Pecafan Fan


Where was he picked.

I would say he would be an average top 10, a good 10-20 pick, a very good 20-30 pick and an excellent pick later than that...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 21 @ 9:45 AM ET

- AdamFrench


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wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
Just use the (frank)ing draft pick to draft a center !!!

Gally, Grig's Gaunce just (frank)ing pick one and wait it out. We have more problems than just a center so save our trades for a goalie etc...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
Where was he picked.

I would say he would be an average top 10, a good 10-20 pick, a very good 20-30 pick and an excellent pick later than that...

- GoneFullRetard

round 1 #22 overall
Colin Dambrauskas
Location: Office Chair - @ColinDJD
Joined: 08.04.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:47 AM ET
Just use the (frank)ing draft pick to draft a center !!!

Gally, Grig's Gaunce just (frank)ing pick one and wait it out. We have more problems than just a center so save our trades for a goalie etc...

- wolfos412


what does this mean...draft?....
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:49 AM ET
what does this mean...draft?....
- noename09


A Leaf quote if I've ever heard one.
13LEAFS01
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 06.01.2007

Mar 21 @ 9:50 AM ET
Carlyle is worse than Wilson IMO. He's killing the one thing the Leafs had going for them, which was offense. Now, they have no offense, to go along with bad defense and average (?) goaltending.

Hope he gets fired.

- TheSabresTaco


Dallas Eakins has and will always be the right man for the job.
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:51 AM ET
Dallas Eakins has and will always be the right man for the job.
- 13LEAFS01


I think he want's to win the cup with the marlies right now than take the poop storm up with the Leafs
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 21 @ 9:52 AM ET
I still think my prediction is better.

The Leafs get in a bidding war for for Parise's negotiating rights. They end up winning and giving up their 1st to New Jersey.

Parise signs with the Habs after July 1.

THAT is a typical Leafs scenario.

They are quite possibly the most incompetent and snakebitten organization in pro sports. Everything the Leafs touch turns to sh1t.

- GoneFullRetard



well said!
GoneFull
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.31.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
round 1 #22 overall
- Pecafan Fan


So yeah, I would say that makes him a "very good" pick, which I think is a fair assessment.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:54 AM ET
Just use the (frank)ing draft pick to draft a center !!!
- wolfos412


this.

I don't think it would be hard to trade up with the Oilers. Say we're picking 4th-6th, Franson + a later round pick could get us there. I don't see the Oilers being upset with Franson & Dumba/Trouba/Reinhart in the 1st round. They get a very good prospect and someone ready to step in.

Thoughts?

I just hope we keep our 2nd rounder too, drafting a goalie in Vasilevski
or Dansk would be sick.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 21 @ 9:56 AM ET
this.

I don't think it would be hard to trade up with the Oilers. Say we're picking 4th-6th, Franson + a later round pick could get us there. I don't see the Oilers being upset with Franson & Dumba/Trouba/Reinhart in the 1st round. They get a very good prospect and someone ready to step in.

Thoughts?

I just hope we keep our 2nd rounder too, drafting a goalie in Viselinski or Dansk would be sick.

- Boosinicka



It will take more than a RFA bottom pairing D-man and a late pick to move up....The Oilers wont move out of that draft position..
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:56 AM ET
this.

I don't think it would be hard to trade up with the Oilers. Say we're picking 4th-6th, Franson + a later round pick could get us there. I don't see the Oilers being upset with Franson & Dumba/Trouba/Reinhart in the 1st round. They get a very good prospect and someone ready to step in.

Thoughts?

I just hope we keep our 2nd rounder too, drafting a goalie in Viselinski or Dansk would be sick.

- Boosinicka


This is the only one I will accept. Rumour has it he will go at the end of the 1st round though.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 21 @ 9:56 AM ET
The next 5 games NJ, NYR, Car, Phi, Buff

I see 1 win..maybe throw in a OTL/SOL they go 1-3-1
wolfos412
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Get Real - JDJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 21 @ 9:59 AM ET
The next 5 games NJ, NYR, Car, Phi, Buff

I see 1 win..maybe throw in a OTL/SOL they go 1-3-1

- senstroll


Yes, thats what should happen... but the Leafs will probably win if they get too close to that top 3 spot.
Leafsfan9329
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Largo, FL
Joined: 07.28.2010

Mar 21 @ 10:00 AM ET
The next 5 games NJ, NYR, Car, Phi, Buff

I see 1 win..maybe throw in a OTL/SOL they go 1-3-1

- senstroll



I don't see any wins, NJ is battling for playoff position with Ottawa and maybe a couple other teams, The Rangers trying to hold off Pitts and Philly for 1st in that division.

Philly is battling for top spot or 4th spot with pitts. Carolina is looking to play spoiler and hopefully they win tonight to increase there lead on us to 3 points so we just need to lose against them.

And Buffalo is battling for 8th spot, possibly 7th spot if Ottawa keeps losing.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 21 @ 10:01 AM ET
This is the only one I will accept. Rumour has it he will go at the end of the 1st round though.
- wolfos412


I'm a huge fan but Dansk is going to be the real deal too
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 21 @ 10:02 AM ET
The next 5 games NJ, NYR, Car, Phi, Buff

I see 1 win..maybe throw in a OTL/SOL they go 1-3-1

- senstroll


Generous!
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 21 @ 10:03 AM ET
It will take more than a RFA bottom pairing D-man and a late pick to move up....The Oilers wont move out of that draft position..
- Fruitcakenipple


I wouldn't be surprised if they did, a lot of buzz in the city about trying to acquire Franson previously, and this city is absolutely in love with Reinhart.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 21 @ 10:04 AM ET
Trade the pick! Trade the pick!
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