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bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
The math has to be wrong.

The East has 152 total points.
The West has at least 120 points(44 regulation wins, 16 extra-time wins), plus any loser points they picked up over the course of the year. With this math, we don't know the total.

Assuming that losses are comparably equal, we can rationalize that the West picked up roughly ~ 16 PTS through SOL. If that's the case, they're looking at 136 total points.

Again, about an eight-win difference. In a small sample size, I'd be reluctant to draw correlation. Need to see data in years past.

- Travis Yost

the 16 ot and shoot out wins would be included in the 44 wins, they don't keep a stat for overtime and shoot out wins.
they go straight to the win column
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
in a universe far far away ?
- Rayven

Somewhere revolving around Uranus...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
the 16 ot and shoot out wins would be included in the 44 wins, they don't keep a stat for overtime and shoot out wins.
they go straight to the win column

- bobbyisno1

Damn, you're smart...
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
Compared to Canadians it's not even a discussion.
- Boinker


You're generalizing a nation who idolizes hockey as its sport to a nation who doesnt idolize hockey as a sport.

If you singled out Canadians who knew hockey and Americans who knew hockey, you wouldnt find much of a difference. There would be Americans who are smarter than most Canadians and Canadians who are smarter than most Americans, but a lot of middle ground.

The fact that you actually believe that statement and are willing to use it in an argument because another person doesnt see eye to eye with you is absolutely pathetic.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
Damn, you're smart...
- Flyfreaky

my brain wouldn't fit in that box
puckhog
Joined: 08.29.2008

Mar 20 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yup. Ek finally does research, just doesn't realize no one cares.
- rmdevil313


No he didn't. He stole it from another site, as usual
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:16 PM ET
You're generalizing a nation who idolizes hockey as its sport to a nation who doesnt idolize hockey as a sport.

If you singled out Canadians who knew hockey and Americans who knew hockey, you wouldnt find much of a difference. There would be Americans who are smarter than most Canadians and Canadians who are smarter than most Americans, but a lot of middle ground.

The fact that you actually believe that statement and are willing to use it in an argument because another person doesnt see eye to eye with you is absolutely pathetic.

- theblueandgold

did he mean Canadians or Canadiens?
Stalemate
Joined: 04.17.2008

Mar 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ek, why couldn't PIT, NYR, WSH and PHI beat the Oilers? Oilers beat them by a combined score of 8-2. Domination right?
- oilersfanatic


Obvioulsy the Oilers suck so damn much that every team gets drunk the night before and throws the back up in the net against them.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
Well that's one player. Backlund and Brodie are nothing to be excited about. The Flames are aging as well. All San Jose has to do is trade Thronton, Marleau and Boyle and they dominate the Flamers in terms of prospects. What could the Flames get for any of there players besides Iginla?
- Boinker

Marleau Thornton and Boyle wouldn't fetch much of a return. We don't have on prospect that would be in Calgary's top 5. The only bright spot we have looking forward is Couture
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
west > east
- keithward

Thanks for not reading and simply stating your biased opinion!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 20 @ 4:26 PM ET
did he mean Canadians or Canadiens?
- bobbyisno1


British English or American English?
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:37 PM ET
British English or American English?
- theblueandgold



not sure why you posted before the sabres record vs the west, its not like you guys will make it to the playoffs let alone make it to the finals

the players were too busy looking at their gold plated lockers, watches and parking lines
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
So therefore the west is weak because the sabres can beat the sharks?
- keithward


Clearly.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
Somewhere revolving around Uranus...
- Flyfreaky


Humangus Big!
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Mar 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
if my aunt had a cock she'd be my uncle
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:40 PM ET
Whats a mute point?

The west is far stronger, and has been for years.
If u cant see that, you're either delusional or clueless

- hugefemale dog77


ahhahhahahhahhahahha SHHHHHH he has MUTE point but nobody can here it. Priceless!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:42 PM ET
No they weren't. Chicago and Nashville have way better defenses. The Canucks played the best defenseman in pretty much the league. Keith, Seabrook, Weber, Suter, Boyle, Chara goalies Rinne and Thomas. Also Crawford payed on his head for Chicago. I'd way rather the Canucks gone up against Montreal and Tampa. They wouldnt have had the injuries they had going into the finals. Your a moron if you think Montreal and Tampa are harder to play against.
- Boinker


Doubt that. Especially before Oduya and w/o Hammer.
mage23
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.16.2007

Mar 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
Replying to the San Jose fan. But if you're displeased with the past 2 seasons Ekland posted, here's a wider breakdown. Since 2004 against the Sharks.

Sabres are 7-2. That's a pretty good sample size.

- TheSabresTaco


Thanks for picking on the Sharks to illustrate the East dominating the West, but that probably wasn't the best idea. This might also give you an idea why that Sharks fan you were replying to has the opinion of west > east...

The Sharks have always, for some reason, had trouble beating the Sabres... however, on the flip side, here's the Sharks record against the east since the lockout:

2005/06: 9-1-0
2006/07: 8-2-0
2007/08: 5-5-0
2008/09: 12-3-3
2009/10: 12-4-2
2010/11: 9-8-1 (horrible year, in contrast to the rest)
2011/12: 11-5-1

So, two years of .500 mixed in with 5 years of pure dominance... just sayin'.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
Americans don't know hockey.
- Boinker


You're right, they just have won the cup since '94.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
Thr sabres have been a better team then the sharks???!

Ok bud.

- hugefemale dog77


In the Sabres Sharks series, the Sabres are clearly better. As far as being a better team overall..no, the Sharks are probably better.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
Ya I would have liked to have seen what Boston would have looked like with Chara out and their entire top 4 defense playing with injuries. Not to mention Kesler playing on a torn hip. Henrik with a bulging disc. The Canucks went through three rounds of war. They limped into Boston facing a healthy hungry team. The only defenseman on the Canucks that was't injured was Bieksa. Our top 2 centers had serious injuries which required surgery right game seven. Columbus would have had a chance to beat Vancouver at their state.
- Boinker


Yep, and the Sabres were a shoe in for the Stanley Cup in '99, but Hull cheated, and a shoe in for the Stanley Cup in '06, but we had two healthy NHL defenders.
Sabreshark
Location: WA
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
Great job Ek, thi will get u quite a bit of hits bud
sliprock65
Joined: 08.20.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:52 PM ET
Who cares about 7-13 teams, bottom line is last year the Nucks were the top team in the West and they got female dog slapped by the Bruins in the finals when it counted.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
Thanks for picking on the Sharks to illustrate the East dominating the West, but that probably wasn't the best idea. This might also give you an idea why that Sharks fan you were replying to has the opinion of west > east...

The Sharks have always, for some reason, had trouble beating the Sabres... however, on the flip side, here's the Sharks record against the east since the lockout:

2005/06: 9-1-0
2006/07: 8-2-0
2007/08: 5-5-0
2008/09: 12-3-3
2009/10: 12-4-2
2010/11: 9-8-1 (horrible year, in contrast to the rest)
2011/12: 11-5-1

So, two years of .500 mixed in with 5 years of pure dominance... just sayin'.

- mage23


This all started from like the first or second post. So..start from there.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 20 @ 4:55 PM ET
Who cares about 7-13 teams, bottom line is last year the Nucks were the top team in the West and they got female dog slapped by the Bruins in the finals when it counted.
- sliprock65

I like the female dog slapped better... b*tch is so personal...
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