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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Your logic is flawed....sorry but it is. It depends when the games were played, beginning middle end of the season. Were they meaningful games, as in did teams need the two points to get into the playoff picture. Were they during a long long road trip for a Western team which travels a lot more. Etc etc...

Most or at least half of the out of Conference games don't mean as much. The two points are still important, but not like an inter-conference game.

- LeftCoaster


Same logic applies for the eastern teams
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
If you aren't amazed by a machine that can turn regular bread into Canucks toast... then you need to check yourself into an insane asylum immediately.
- kneughter


*checks in to sanitarium*
bonzo11
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.16.2010

Mar 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
I'm willing to bet this is the only one you've ever seen me use
- Rayven

I can't even remember your previous avatar.
MattyIce9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MI
Joined: 02.18.2011

Mar 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
Now you need to do the west record because it is not as simple as adding the east losses and ot/so losses together. You will find that some of the east wins were in ot/so and therefore it is possible (I haven't done any research) that the west is actually more games over .500 than the east.
waitforawhistle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: manteno, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
Interesting, so the east doesn't use backups versus the west but the west does use backups versus the east?
- Eklund


not my point at all...just saying that even if both teams used back ups your just proving that the east has better back ups than the west. Also why use a two year sample? look how much changed with just the blues in one year so using last years records is pointless.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
The west gained 104 points
- Eklund


57 wins 50 losses 13 OT
127 points

54 wins 40 losses 18 OT
126 points

This is just from this year.... East vs West... 7th seed to 13th seed.

Not vs eachother... but vs the respective conferences....
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Mar 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
This is stupid, I wanna talk about vaginas!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
Same logic applies for the eastern teams
- Eklund

Exactly....you can't just look at the end result say W Conf teams are better than E Conf teams or visey versey.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
I can't even remember your previous avatar.
- bonzo11


damn, I was hoping you could tell me what it was
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
This is stupid, I wanna talk about vaginas!
- Oilfan19


wrong thread
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
damn, I was hoping you could tell me what it was
- Rayven


It was probably a picture of your toyota prius... you smug bastard!

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Mar 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Is anyone really surprised by WSH? They're a paper tiger and have been for the past 3-4 season since this group has been playing together. Poor defense, poor goal-tending and lazy play from guys like Semin. Ovechkin looks like he is quitting on them at times and Green is constantly injured. Their cap management is also a disgrace like the previous Calgary GM.

Why the hype machine (NBC) constantly running on this putrid team? Look at what PIT and NYR have accomplished this season. PIT almost never has Staal, Malkin and Crosby healthy together and they won a cup! Look what Boston pulled off last year. I know it's a bit off subject but I'm tired of the hype around the WSH and really really bored at work today.

If someone picks WSH to win the cup next year, I will seriously fill my cubicle with puke.
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
57 wins 50 losses 13 OT
127 points

54 wins 40 losses 18 OT
126 points

This is just from this year.... East vs West... 7th seed to 13th seed.

Not vs eachother... but vs the respective conferences....

- kneughter


The point of the blog was about the conference with the better teams on the bubble
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:02 PM ET
west > east
- keithward


Sabres 11-2-2
vs Phoenix 1-1
vs LA 2-0
vs Colorado 0-0-2
vs San Jose 3-0
vs. Calgary 1-1
vs. Anaheim 3-0
vs. Wild 1-0

You're right.
bonzo11
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.16.2010

Mar 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
damn, I was hoping you could tell me what it was
- Rayven

bonzo11
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.16.2010

Mar 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
Sabres 11-2-2
vs Phoenix 1-1
vs LA 2-0
vs Colorado 0-0-2
vs San Jose 3-0
vs. Calgary 1-1
vs. Anaheim 3-0
vs. Wild 1-0

You're right.

- TheSabresTaco

Yep, 3 games over 2 seasons really shows who the better team is.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
It was probably a picture of your toyota prius... you smug bastard!


- kneughter


Nope couldn't be, I drive a Hummer
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Mar 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
I actually agree with Eklund on this one. Who would you rather possibly face in the first round of the playoffs? The Kings, Sharks, Avalanche or Flames? Or the Sabres, Jets, Caps, or Leafs? Personally, the Jets, Caps and Sabres scare the hell out of me. And none of the West bubble teams really scare me other than the Avs.
Nerko77
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.15.2010

Mar 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
I actually agree with Eklund on this one. Who would you rather possibly face in the first round of the playoffs? The Kings, Sharks, Avalanche or Flames? Or the Sabres, Jets, Caps, or Leafs? Personally, the Jets, Caps and Sabres scare the hell out of me. And none of the West bubble teams really scare me other than the Avs.
- GOODPLAYA20


LA beats any of the East bubble teams in a 7-game series (ditto for PHX)...
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
The point of the blog was about the conference with the better teams on the bubble
- Eklund


Well why didn't you just say so... thats a horse of a different color!


-120 is the goal differential for the 7-13th seed in the east... and -60 is the wests.

The 11th place team in the west would be 7th in the east.

I think this speaks volumes to which bubble teams are better...
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
I actually agree with Eklund on this one. Who would you rather possibly face in the first round of the playoffs? The Kings, Sharks, Avalanche or Flames? Or the Sabres, Jets, Caps, or Leafs? Personally, the Jets, Caps and Sabres scare the hell out of me. And none of the West bubble teams really scare me other than the Avs.
- GOODPLAYA20


Uhhhh... what.... kings... sharks.. would probably be in 4th/5th if they were in the east.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
Nope couldn't be, I drive a Hummer
- Rayven


My cars running right now.... and I'm not going out for another hour
GOODPLAYA20
New York Rangers
Location: "Are you gonna bark all day, l
Joined: 01.30.2012

Mar 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
Uhhhh... what.... kings... sharks.. would probably be in 4th/5th if they were in the east.
- kneughter


The Kings can't score to save their lives and when they do score they end up blowing leads. And the Sharks don't understand the concept of team defense and have far less depth than they've had in years past.
Stalemate
Joined: 04.17.2008

Mar 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
The East is the better conference by far. Look at last years playoff's, Boston went to game 7 OT against the Habs (a team that just got in the playoffs) and had to fight tooth and nail just to get out the 1st round.

In conference finals they were again pushed to the limit against Tampa having to play 7 hard fought games to get into the finals.

In the finals? That was the easiest series Boston had to play other than the Philly series they played in the 2nd round. After losing the 1st 2 games in BC Boston comes back and easily wins 4 of 5 from Vancouver. The final 5 games of that series were so easy for Boston it showed just how much better the East is when compared with the West.

East is better than West and it's not even close.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
Yep, 3 games over 2 seasons really shows who the better team is.
- bonzo11


Replying to the San Jose fan. But if you're displeased with the past 2 seasons Ekland posted, here's a wider breakdown. Since 2004 against the Sharks.

Sabres are 7-2. That's a pretty good sample size.
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