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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
Well, I got to get to work, but one update:
Per Mike Morreale of NHL.com, Talbot and Lilja are skating today

And Kubina

- Jsaquella

I still think its an AC strain for Talbot.. falling on an outstretched are will do that.. If not tonight.. I could see a Thursday return for Talbot. Probably get it injected nice and good.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:36 AM ET
As for number 2... I hope we last long enough he can come back

number 3... the devil always wants more blood...

- RooNosHockey


6 to 8 weeks puts him at mid may. And after doing no skating or working out for that long, especially given it's a back injury, doubt he be able to play at all this year. His conditioning will be nowhere near where it needs to be.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
Carcillo had more talent than I gave him credit for, but he's still never been able to fins the line. Rinaldo works hard at toeing the line and for the most part hasn't hurt the team with bad penalties. His rep from the AHL and juniors has hurt him a bit, but if he keeps himself under control, he'll be a solid grinder
- Jsaquella

I think Rinaldo is a bit more focused on the game than Carcillo. Not to say Rinaldo isn't a dangerous little son of a female dog, but I like his competitive drive more than Carcillo's. That said, Carcillo had some awesome moments:

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
I'm just saying, yes it sucks to lose Meszaros, but with our depth it isnt a big blow. Just means a couple extra minutes for the top 2 pairings, and Lilja or Gus get some playoff time...
- RooNosHockey



And I'm just saying it is a blow. Other injuries can still happen.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
Even though I liked him a little more after 24/7, I still despise Torts. He is such a whiny wiener.

EDIT:
Didnt know that would be edited, but it makes it much better ahahahahha

- jak521

Yeah, I just found out about that autocensor the other day. It definitely worked out here though
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sounds like Talbot, Kubina and Lilja could all be back tonight.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:40 AM ET
6 to 8 weeks puts him at mid may. And after doing no skating or working out for that long, especially given it's a back injury, doubt he be able to play at all this year. His conditioning will be nowhere near where it needs to be.
- funmaster18

It be a miracle if he skated again at any point in this season.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
I Rinaldo is a bit more focused on the game than Carcillo. Not to say Rinaldo isn't a dangerous little son of a female dog, but I like his competitive drive more than Carcillo's. That said, Carcillo had some awesome moments:


- BulliesPhan87



Rinaldo has more of a game plan. Carcillo -- who has a better demonstrated scoring touch when he sets his mind to it -- goes by emotion only.

RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 20 @ 10:42 AM ET
Uh its already been announced he's done for the year, I don't know what else to tell you.
- JoeRussomanno


I heard 6-8 weeks....
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
It be a miracle if he skated again at any point in this season.
- JoeRussomanno


Agreed. If it wasn't a back injury, I'd say maybe he can push it of we made it that far, but back injuries are the worst thing to rush.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think Rinaldo is a bit more focused on the game than Carcillo. Not to say Rinaldo isn't a dangerous little son of a female dog, but I like his competitive drive more than Carcillo's. That said, Carcillo had some awesome moments:


- BulliesPhan87


I disliked Carcillo from the moment he came here. The dislike was only cemented by his performance in Game 6 of the ECQF against the Pens.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:46 AM ET
I heard 6-8 weeks....
- RooNosHockey

Here is the thing with a 6-8 week diagnosis (or any for that matter). That is a round about estimate.. its not exact science. This does not account for any setbacks or unexpected events. Also, what it means is that around weeks 6-8 he would be eligible to start "light activity". Probably basic PT. He likely wont skate till week 9-10 or start hitting till week 11-12. Put a fork in him.


EDIT: It is also important to note that this in not an extremity injury. If this were a shoulder or knee injury.. i wouldnt be saying put a fork in him. Back is a beast of a different nature.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
I disliked Carcillo from the moment he came here. The dislike was only cemented by his performance in Game 6 of the ECQF against the Pens.
- KGBflyers10

Thats a crock to me. He won a fight.. clear as day. I dont care what the score was that the time. It didnt deflate our team.. We should have been able to hold that lead regardless of him fighting.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
Carcillo had his moments, but he was too much of a loose canon. If Carcillo is a street thug, Rinaldo is like a trained assassin. Sneaky on the ice and out of nowhere catches you with a big hit. Carcillo was loud and attracted too much attention sometimes. At least when Rinaldo gets a penalty, he tends to get his money's worth. I also think Rinaldo has much better hands than Carcillo.

Would be great to see them go toe to toe sometime

- funmaster18


The big positive that Rinaldo has over Carcillo is the lack of dumb penalties.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Rinaldo has more of a game plan. Carcillo -- who has a better demonstrated scoring touch when he sets his mind to it -- goes by emotion only.
- bmeltzer

Better than I could've put it. I'm happy to have Rinaldo take his place, but I often really enjoyed watching Carcillo. It sounds like the Blackhawks like him too, what with the two year extension.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 10:48 AM ET
Sounds like Talbot, Kubina and Lilja could all be back tonight.
- bmeltzer


Nice.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
Better than I could've put it. I'm happy to have Rinaldo take his place, but I often really enjoyed watching Carcillo. It sounds like the Blackhawks like him too, what with the two year extension.
- BulliesPhan87


still found that kinda funny tbh.
pyromantic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Greetings, cretins! Give us th, PA
Joined: 02.28.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
Thats a crock to me. He won a fight.. clear as day. I dont care what the score was that the time. It didnt deflate our team.. We should have been able to hold that lead regardless of him fighting.
- jak521

It didn't deflate us, it woke them up. There is no reason to give them that boost when we are spanking them.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
Thats a crock to me. He won a fight.. clear as day. I dont care what the score was that the time. It didnt deflate our team.. We should have been able to hold that lead regardless of him fighting.
- jak521

Yeah, Carcillo's probably the last person I blame for that flop.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
It didn't deflate us, it woke them up. There is no reason to give them that boost when we are spanking them.
- pyromantic

it was what 4-0 at the time?

i dont care if you gave that whole team crack.. a 4 goal lead in the playoffs doesnt get blown because of a fight.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:51 AM ET
http://tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=390862

Interesting...

- phi1671



hmmm.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Not much reaction to losing Mezzy for the rest of the year...

Is he that out of favor? Or does the collective HB conscience just feel its not that important given the way Gusty and others (i.e. MAB / Manning) have filled in?

- dcflyerfan71



we had a tearful photo montage yesterday.

i for one am super bummed. it just seems like it never stops.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
it was what 4-0 at the time?

i dont care if you gave that whole team crack.. a 4 goal lead in the playoffs doesnt get blown because of a fight.

- jak521


I think 3 0, but I agree. Flyers just rolled over and the pens woke up, but it wasn't carcillos fault. The pens just wanted to close out a series.
pyromantic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Greetings, cretins! Give us th, PA
Joined: 02.28.2006

Mar 20 @ 10:53 AM ET
it was what 4-0 at the time?

i dont care if you gave that whole team crack.. a 4 goal lead in the playoffs doesnt get blown because of a fight.

- jak521

I believe it ws a 3 goal lead, and I agree with that point. Still, there was no reason for him to even get involved. Only something bad could have come from it, and it did.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 20 @ 10:57 AM ET
Grossmann thumped Cody McCormick in this fight...


- bmeltzer



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