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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
But that's okay if the guy scores in the playoffs did I miss something?
- JoeRussomanno


You conveniently avoid the fact that Gomez doesn't produce to a level even close to Brière.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
But that's okay if the guy scores in the playoffs did I miss something?
- JoeRussomanno


So Briere is the opposite of Jeff Carter when he was here. People blasted Carter (including myself) who averaged 35 goals a game during the regular season but didnt produce in the playoffs (for whateva reason). What good is that when you cant get it done when it matters most? Goes both ways imo.

I completely understand that you feel like Briere hasnt lived up to his contract. I'm not going to change your mind on that. For that type of money your expecting 40 goals and 80 points (at minimum).
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:25 PM ET
You conveniently avoid the fact that Gomez doesn't produce to a level even close to Brière.
- Pecafan Fan


Briere has 258 points in 323 games as a flyer in the regular season or .8 points a game. In the playoffs he has 59 points in 57 games.

Yeah, he's worth it.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
Mood?

6.5 or 7.3

Over 60 or under 60?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
You conveniently avoid the fact that Gomez doesn't produce to a level even close to Brière.
- Pecafan Fan


Joey Kocur has three cup rings. Raymond Bourque only has one.

Kocur>Bourque
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Mood?

6.5 or 7.3

Over 60 or under 60?

- hockeylover


Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
Briere has 258 points in 323 games as a flyer in the regular season or .8 points a game. In the playoffs he has 59 points in 57 games.

Yeah, he's worth it.

- funmaster18


Isn't he also "mentoring" the younger guys like Giroux and more recently Couturier by having them live with him and poop like that?

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
You conveniently avoid the fact that Gomez doesn't produce to a level even close to Brière.
- Pecafan Fan

in the playoffs? cause that's what we are talking about here? right?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
Joey Kocur has three cup rings. Raymond Bourque only has one.

Kocur>Bourque

- OrangeBlack27


Kaberle = Bourque
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
in the playoffs? cause that's what we are talking about here? right?
- JoeRussomanno


Gomez is not over a point per game in the playoffs.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:31 PM ET
So Briere is the opposite of Jeff Carter when he was here. People blasted Carter (including myself) who averaged 35 goals a game during the regular season but didnt produce in the playoffs (for whateva reason). What good is that when you cant get it done when it matters most? Goes both ways imo.

I completely understand that you feel like Briere hasnt lived up to his contract. I'm not going to change your mind on that. For that type of money your expecting 40 goals and 80 points (at minimum).

- stveshdy

Problem with all that is Carter can still mature into a dominant playoff point producer. I doubt it but still. Also no I would like 70 point minimum a season
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:31 PM ET
Gomez is not over a point per game in the playoffs.
- Pecafan Fan


What's his + / - ?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
What's his + / - ?
- hockeylover


Really?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Really?
- Pecafan Fan


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Really?
- Pecafan Fan


Sarcasm
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Really?
- Pecafan Fan


Very important stat on these boards to some....
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Isn't he also "mentoring" the younger guys like Giroux and more recently Couturier by having them live with him and poop like that?
- Pecafan Fan

Sure is
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
Gomez is not over a point per game in the playoffs.
- Pecafan Fan

Briere is a pure scorer that's it. Gomez brings other aspects to the table like this thing called checking but we conveniently forget that. However Gomez has never been a big goal scorer yet he does find ways to produce points in the playoffs. 99 points in 140 playoff games as a mostly defensive forward isn't too shabby either.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Problem with all that is Carter can still mature into a dominant playoff point producer. I doubt it but still. Also no I would like 70 point minimum a season
- JoeRussomanno


He's basically a point per game player in the regular season and over a point per game in the playoffs. You don't think that's a good player to keep around? You may still want to shed that salary, but you can't deny his success and contributions to the team. He's done it consistently.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Briere is a pure scorer that's it. Gomez brings other aspects to the table like this thing called checking but we conveniently forget that. However Gomez has never been a big goal scorer yet he does find ways to produce points in the playoffs. 99 points in 140 playoff games as a mostly defensive forward isn't too shabby either.
- JoeRussomanno


So would you rather Gomez at 7.3 over Briere at 6.5?
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Nope second year. The second year he was big in the playoffs so he got a pass.
Ok so what I've learned today is a player can do jack squat all year as long as his team gets into the playoffs then he can perform. Got it.

- JoeRussomanno


Briere's second season here was injury riddled; he only played in 29 games - yet was still on a 30+ goal pace.

As I stated before, Briere is an exceptional playoff player. A player who plays better when it counts, which is exceedingly rare.

His career PPG in the playoffs is .99 - good for 36th all-time in the history of the league. With the Flyers, he produces at a 1.04 clip, which would be good for 26th all-time - right behind stiffs Phil Esposito and Guy Lafleur.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Isn't he also "mentoring" the younger guys like Giroux and more recently Couturier by having them live with him and poop like that?
- Pecafan Fan


Oh, stop. The guy's obviously a stiff. The only reason Couturier is staying with Briere is Flyers' brass hopes that Briere will somehow become infused with Couts' defensive responsibility.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 20 @ 3:37 PM ET


(frank)er
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
He's basically a point perform player in the regular season and over a point per game in the playoffs. You don't think that's a good player to keep around? You may still want to shed that salary, but you can't deny his success and contributions to the team. He's done it consistently.
- funmaster18


OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
So Briere is the opposite of Jeff Carter when he was here. People blasted Carter (including myself) who averaged 35 goals a game during the regular season but didnt produce in the playoffs (for whateva reason). What good is that when you cant get it done when it matters most? Goes both ways imo.

I completely understand that you feel like Briere hasnt lived up to his contract. I'm not going to change your mind on that. For that type of money your expecting 40 goals and 80 points (at minimum).

- stveshdy


the one playoff season where carter was actually healthy (08), he produced at the exact same rate he did during the regular season. just sayin'...

lol can o worms
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