I would do that just because hes a 34 year old player who is one dimensional and this team has a lot of young talent that I would rather keep. So I would have no problem if that was the choice the Flyers made.
- stveshdy

IF there's an amnesty, Briere's a serious consideration given his age versus years and cap hit remaining. I still don't think we should be expecting an amnesty.

I was lukewarm with the signing when it happened. That's got nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying going forward you need to move that contact otherwise you're gonna be in a pinch with free agent signings, maybe not. I suppose it is personal preference but in my preference he would not be commanding such a cap-hit. There's no double standard as I keep reading from Boom and MJL. I said over and over goalies and forwards are apples and oranges. Also if you must know I don't like the length and NMC on Bryzgalov's contract. That one is likely to bite us in the butt in 6-7 years just like Briere's might in the next year or so.
- JoeRussomanno

Here's where the double standard is. You keep referencing Briere's contract and that his play doesn't justify it. And please correct me if I'm wrong there. And I'll agree that certainly right now Briere isn't giving us the bang for the buck. The question is, did Bryzgalov's play in the first half of the Season, support his contract? It certainly did not. Yet you steadfastly defended and beleived in Bryzgalov. As did I. And I backed you on that. Because I thought that he was going to turn it around, and he has done so. But why not the same benefit of the doubt given to Briere. Who has no doubt proven that he is a big game player? And in my opinion up to this point has earned his money. Due to his regular Season and playoff performance as a whole.

All of these long term deals to UFA's as they get older, have the potential to bite us in the but. Including Pringer, Timonen, Briere, Bryzgalov, etc. That goes without saying.

It was a guestimate... Is he amoung the top 24 in points over the last 5 years? Or is he now? Someone asked how many points he should put up a season...

Well I still say for a 6.5 million contract in which the player does not play defense or PK, and his game is all about what he does offensively... then he should be putting up numbers similiar to the top 10-15 in the league... Otherwise, learn to back-check, stop taking stupid penalities as a way to earn that money...
- RooNosHockey

Ovechkin, Nash, Lecavlier, Heatley, Gomez, Vanek, Semin, Richards, Stastney, Briere, Thornton and Kane are not in the top 10 in the league in scoring. Their all being paid because of their offensive ability. How is Briere any different?

All I'm saying is sometimes a player can still be successful on a team even if he isnt in the top 10 in scoring. Other teams deal with the same issues with players who are not getting full production out of their contract.

IF there's an amnesty, Briere's a serious consideration given his age versus years and cap hit remaining. I still don't think we should be expecting an amnesty.
- BulliesPhan87

We shouldn't in my opinion. The CBA isn't going to be negotiated and signed until mid September at the earliest. Teams will have already made their moves and built their team. What good would a Amnesty buyout do then? What would they do with the Cap space gained? In my opinion what's going to happen is a percentage of salary reduction across the board for every player. To bring the player's share down closer to the 50% mark.

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- bmeltzer

Awesome News on Talbot, Kubina and Lilja. These defensive pairs may even be for the best.

We shouldn't in my opinion. The CBA isn't going to be negotiated and signed until mid September at the earliest. Teams will have already made their moves and built their team. What good would a Amnesty buyout do then? What would they do with the Cap space gained? In my opinion what's going to happen is a percentage of salary reduction across the board for every player. To bring the player's share down closer to the 50% mark.
- MJL

They could still add it in for future seasons correct? It's not pointless to add it even if in September as teams would still be interested in it for the future, no?

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- ggunky

Bump!

We shouldn't in my opinion. The CBA isn't going to be negotiated and signed until mid September at the earliest. Teams will have already made their moves and built their team. What good would a Amnesty buyout do then? What would they do with the Cap space gained? In my opinion what's going to happen is a percentage of salary reduction across the board for every player. To bring the player's share down closer to the 50% mark.
- MJL

Is it true that the league might add a "Get out of jail free card" for one contract per team this summer?

Awesome News on Talbot, Kubina and Lilja. These defensive pairs may even be for the best.
- roenick97

honestly not crazy about carle/kimmo

IF there's an amnesty, Briere's a serious consideration given his age versus years and cap hit remaining. I still don't think we should be expecting an amnesty.
- BulliesPhan87

Seriously?? We all know the leading candidate to be bought out is JShell

honestly not crazy about carle/kimmo
- Crimsoninja

It's good 2b honest

They could still add it in for future seasons correct? It's not pointless to add it even if in September as teams would still be interested in it for the future, no?
- funmaster18

If you go by the last CBA, the Compliance buyout was only available for the first year. I highly doubt the Players Association is going to go for one every year for each team. That's 30 players a year.

Is it true that the league might add a "Get out of jail free card" for one contract per team this summer?
- roenick97

I don't know that anything is true with regards to the new CBA. Negotiations haven't even started. It's all speculation, including statements I made previously.

honestly not crazy about carle/kimmo
- Crimsoninja

I'm not either but I'm not sure what to expect from Kubina from one night to the next. He's been good so far but he does look sorta slow out there at times. I'm crazy impressed with Grossmann and Coburn together though.

Seriously?? We all know the leading candidate to be bought out is JShell
- funmaster18

His contract can always be amnestied down to the AHL, in a manner of speaking

If you go by the last CBA, the Compliance buyout was only available for the first year. I highly doubt the Players Association is going to go for one every year for each team. That's 30 players a year.
- MJL

Yeah, I don't see the NHLPA going for that.

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I don't know that anything is true with regards to the new CBA. Negotiations haven't even started. It's all speculation, including statements I made previously.
- MJL

Gotcha. Well if you had to choose a contract to be the "get out of jail free" contract, who's would it be? At first though, I figured Pronger because he's pretty much done but then I thought of a pricy active player like Briere. I mean, with Pronger, he can still go on LTIR for next season, while Briere could struggle with the weight of that contract on his shoulders.

Ovechkin, Nash, Lecavlier, Heatley, Gomez, Vanek, Semin, Richards, Stastney, Briere, Thornton and Kane are not in the top 10 in the league in scoring. Their all being paid because of their offensive ability. How is Briere any different?

All I'm saying is sometimes a player can still be successful on a team even if he isnt in the top 10 in scoring. Other teams deal with the same issues with players who are not getting full production out of their contract.
- stveshdy

For the expection of Ovechkin who has bettered his defensive game, Vanek, and Kane all the other have either been invloved in trade discussion, traded to a different team, or let go to UFA in the last season... So it does appear that if players arent playing up to thier contracts... Gms try and move them.

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- flyfan1212

bryz with a softee

Here's where the double standard is. You keep referencing Briere's contract and that his play doesn't justify it. And please correct me if I'm wrong there. And I'll agree that certainly right now Briere isn't giving us the bang for the buck. The question is, did Bryzgalov's play in the first half of the Season, support his contract? It certainly did not. Yet you steadfastly defended and beleived in Bryzgalov. As did I. And I backed you on that. Because I thought that he was going to turn it around, and he has done so. But why not the same benefit of the doubt given to Briere. Who has no doubt proven that he is a big game player? And in my opinion up to this point has earned his money. Due to his regular Season and playoff performance as a whole.

All of these long term deals to UFA's as they get older, have the potential to bite us in the but. Including Pringer, Timonen, Briere, Bryzgalov, etc. That goes without saying.
- MJL

Look you wanna continue to pay top dollar for one dimensional player that struggles to exhibit that one dimension through the year be my guest. THe money could be spent much more frugally.

For the expection of Ovechkin who has bettered his defensive game, Vanek, and Kane all the other have either been invloved in trade discussion, traded to a different team, or let go to UFA in the last season... So it does appear that if players arent playing up to thier contracts... Gms try and move them.
- RooNosHockey

Briere has a NMC. How are they going to have discussions about trading him? Why would they want to trade him when he has been worth his contract every single year up till now? He has produced in the playoffs more than any current Flyer on the roster.

We shouldn't in my opinion. The CBA isn't going to be negotiated and signed until mid September at the earliest. Teams will have already made their moves and built their team. What good would a Amnesty buyout do then? What would they do with the Cap space gained? In my opinion what's going to happen is a percentage of salary reduction across the board for every player. To bring the player's share down closer to the 50% mark.
- MJL

If there is an amnesty buyout, Briere wont be the only player bought out, so it will open new players for a second round of UFA... DiPietro, Gomez, I dont feel like making an entire list.... but you get the idea... They Flyers could pick up a decent player without a NMC and maybe at a cheaper price.

If you go by the last CBA, the Compliance buyout was only available for the first year. I highly doubt the Players Association is going to go for one every year for each team. That's 30 players a year.
- MJL

I think each team should get one for the life of the cba but not every year.

If you go by the last CBA, the Compliance buyout was only available for the first year. I highly doubt the Players Association is going to go for one every year for each team. That's 30 players a year.
- MJL

I think he meant 1 free buyout over the life of the CBA. The last Complinace Buy-out was completely different as teams had to get under a cap.