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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
I'm willing to bet that the news isn't positive.
- stveshdy


That would be about the safest bet you could make unfortunately.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:05 PM ET
Seems like there have been lots of comments today on the merits of having the division winner be guaranteed a top seed in the playoffs. I have to say I hate this idea in every sport, but especially in hockey.

At the same time, I understand the need for divisions, the travel issues that would result from doing away with them, as well as the uneven/unfair schedule argument (although less so since that situation still exists with divisions today).

I would like to see the system modified as follows. The winner of each division is guaranteed a playoff spot (just a spot, not a top seed). The actual spot is determined by the conference standings. If the weakest division winner is so bad they would not otherwise make the playoffs, then they get the eighth seed, and the would-be 8th seed is dropped. Otherwise, points determine the seeding.

So the reward for winning your division is guaranteed playoffs, regardless of point total. However the final seedings are still done according to points earned, unless there is a division winner that would otherwise not qualify for the playoffs. This system isn't perfect either, but I think it's better than anything in use today, as well as more fair.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:05 PM ET
SF won the world series with good pitching and suspect hitting all year long. They got hot hitting at the right time and made the most of their opportunities.
- stveshdy


Exactly. That would have to be the Phillies formula for success, at least until they get some reinforcements back.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
Exactly. That would have to be the Phillies formula for success, at least until they get some reinforcement back.
- PLindbergh31


So do you think the Penguins win the division? I'm hoping that they do bc I want to play the Rags in the first round. I want the team that has given us the most problems all season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
Wooo...No OT in New York
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Mar 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
I wouldn't be surprised if Utley's career is just about over.
- MJL


That may be alarmist speech. Even if his knees are messed up, he has another year on the deal and I 'm sure he'll either grit through the pain this year, or take the year off and get ready for 2013.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:11 PM ET
SF won the world series with good pitching and suspect hitting all year long. They got hot hitting at the right time and made the most of their opportunities.
- stveshdy

i wouldn't want to rely on getting hot at the right time
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 10:12 PM ET
i wouldn't want to rely on getting hot at the right time
- 2Real


Thats who seems to win every single year. St. Louis just did the same exact thing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:13 PM ET
Oh, and the Rangers clinch a playoff spot with the win
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 10:13 PM ET
Oh, and the Rangers clinch a playoff spot with the win
- Jsaquella

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:14 PM ET
So do you think the Penguins win the division? I'm hoping that they do bc I want to play the Rags in the first round. I want the team that has given us the most problems all season.
- stveshdy


I have to look at the schedules. Rangers are 3 points up on Pittsburgh now with a game in hand I believe.

Unless the Flyers fall behind the Devils in the standings, they are going to play Pittsburgh or the NYR in the first round.

Looking at the schedules the Rangers might hold them off, after their game with Detroit (who is crippled with injuries) Wednesday, the Rags play 5 straight games against non playoff teams.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:18 PM ET
Thats who seems to win every single year. St. Louis just did the same exact thing.
- stveshdy

i suppose so but that puts your fate in luck and not really skill

but then again against the giants the phils bats were ice cold
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:18 PM ET
Oh, and the Rangers clinch a playoff spot with the win
- Jsaquella

it was inevitable
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:24 PM ET
it was inevitable
- 2Real


Yup. It would have been nice to see the Devils win and delay it, but as long as it didn't go to OT, I can live with it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:26 PM ET
Oh, and the Rangers clinch a playoff spot with the win
- Jsaquella


i've never seen a team score as much garbage, deflection, lucky goals as that one.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:28 PM ET
i've never seen a team score as much garbage, deflection, lucky goals as that one.
- hammarby31


They go to the net, get their noses dirty and work hard.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:29 PM ET
I have to look at the schedules. Rangers are 3 points up on Pittsburgh now with a game in hand I believe.

Unless the Flyers fall behind the Devils in the standings, they are going to play Pittsburgh or the NYR in the first round.

Looking at the schedules the Rangers might hold them off, after their game with Detroit (who is crippled with injuries) Wednesday, the Rags play 5 straight games against non playoff teams.

- PLindbergh31


non playoff teams can often be dangerous. nothing to play for...except some guys are playing for jobs next season.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:29 PM ET
Holy crap. Jonas Hiller had started 32 straight games for Anaheim. That's insanity.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:30 PM ET
non playoff teams can often be dangerous. nothing to play for...except some guys are playing for jobs next season.
- hammarby31


True. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Wouldn't surprise me either way.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 19 @ 10:32 PM ET
They go to the net, get their noses dirty and work hard.
- Jsaquella


they do. definitely a hard working group. their 3rd goal was a perfect example of what i was talking about. volchenkov does a poor job of shot blocking and it goes right to del zotto (i think) standing wide open in the crease and he taps in an empty net while brodeur thinks the puck is in the corner. every goal they score seems derivative of that one.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 19 @ 10:32 PM ET
Holy crap. Jonas Hiller had started 32 straight games for Anaheim. That's insanity.
- PLindbergh31


He's built for it. Plus he wont have to worry about playing come playoff time.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:34 PM ET
Holy crap. Jonas Hiller had started 32 straight games for Anaheim. That's insanity.
- PLindbergh31



Their back-up isn't that quick
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:34 PM ET
He's built for it. Plus he wont have to worry about playing come playoff time.
- stveshdy


He missed a bunch of games last year with Vertigo, I guess they figure he's fresh. 32 in a row is a ton tho.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 10:35 PM ET
they do. definitely a hard working group. their 3rd goal was a perfect example of what i was talking about. volchenkov does a poor job of shot blocking and it goes right to del zotto (i think) standing wide open in the crease and he taps in an empty net while brodeur thinks the puck is in the corner. every goal they score seems derivative of that one.
- hammarby31


They had a couple like that tonight. 4th goal was a flukey rebound, too
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 19 @ 10:37 PM ET
I was curious to see if the Winter Classic was the only two goal game of Rupp's career. He's actually had four other 2 goal games, as well as a hat trick as a Penguin against the Rags. That surprised the hell out of me.
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