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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
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- bodiva88


does he need a restraining order against you?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
The value in the deal is not what the Caps failed to do with the picks, but what the Flyers might have done with them.
- bodiva88


Well, they would have likely wasted the second rounder

But what I mean is, the deal didn't turn out as badly as it could have because Washington(and Dallas, where the 1st rounder ended up) didn't do much with the picks.

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
Esche was the starter. Burke was brought in to be the back-up, not to compete for the starting job. I also never thought Niittymaki would be more than a back-up, although Esche's behavior could have been better.

Esche had some definite attitude issues at times, but he played very solid for the Flyers. I have no problem with him.

- Jsaquella

He was in his own universe when he made those comments
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
- Jsaquella

Uh yea I'd say that's for him until september.

Edit: That sucks
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
He was in his own universe when he made those comments
- JoeRussomanno


Well, Esche did act like an immature jerk during the thing with Niittymaki...Unfortunately, I was never that infatuated with Niittymaki. Never expected him to be much more than a decent time splitter or good back-up.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
- Jsaquella

what a mess
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
Well, Esche did act like an immature jerk during the thing with Niittymaki...Unfortunately, I was never that infatuated with Niittymaki. Never expected him to be much more than a decent time splitter or good back-up.
- Jsaquella

My memory of the mid oughty Flyers is a bit hazy Cassius, I worked 2-10 from 02-09 I'll take your word on it.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
what a mess
- Crimsoninja


It's OK, we got Manndog

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
My memory of the mid oughty Flyers is a bit hazy Cassius, I worked 2-10 from 02-09 I'll take your word on it.


- JoeRussomanno


I'm serious. I never understood the Niittymaki love.
thenighttrain17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.22.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:01 PM ET
mesz getting surgery for herniated disk per Eskin

EDIT: Leight
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
- Jsaquella


so now we know who sits when pronger comes back for the ECF against the pens






JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
I'm serious. I never understood the Niittymaki love.
- Jsaquella

Me too I have more memories of the Legion of Doom than I do the Ritchie Carter era unfortunately
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
so now we know who sits when pronger comes back for the ECF against the pens







- FlyerMike18

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
It's OK, we got Manndog


- Jsaquella

I think the Flyers are just doomed to never have a full defensive rotation.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:04 PM ET
The problem is, the Rangers were the team they were because of inept ownership and management. The Isles were killed by a combination of bad ownership, bad building and awful management.

Who knows, if a couple defensemen stay healthy in 2004 or if Leighton hadn't faltered in 2010, maybe the Flyers win Stanley Cups in those years, too. You can't just guarantee a one off championship season.

Teams that tank, like the Pens did, didn't tank on purpose. Their financial situation prevented them from being able to compete and retain star players. Stuff like would you rather is kind of pointless. I want a team that competes every year and a Stanley Cup.

- Jsaquella


DUH! But that wasnt the question....
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
- Jsaquella


uuuuuuuuuuugh. any chance he could be back for the later rounds??
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 19 @ 5:08 PM ET

- Crimsoninja


pm
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
uuuuuuuuuuugh. any chance he could be back for the later rounds??
- FlyersFirst

Doubt it. Pronger had the samething happen last year earlier in the season too I believe and we didn't see him until september. Back surgery isn't like getting your knee scoped. Depending on what they are doing, if the disc is protruding into the spine itself or just a nerve steming out dictates the nature of the surgery. Best case scenario he'll be back by June and then he'll need time to get his legs back.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
Eskin just tweeted that Meszaros will have surgery this week for a herniated disk...that could be a season ender.
- Jsaquella


Doesnt mean anything yet. He could just be getting cortizon shots in his back, but because its on the spine its called a surgical procedure...
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
what a mess
- Crimsoninja


What i hate about these things is the first thing i wonder is---could he have gotten surgery earlier and had shot at coming back for the playoffs instead of waiting a month before making the decision??
thenighttrain17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.22.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
uuuuuuuuuuugh. any chance he could be back for the later rounds??
- FlyersFirst


judging by how long it took prongs this offseason id say no... but i guess it is possible hockey players are crazy tough. kubina should be back soon though
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:10 PM ET
Doubt it. Pronger had the samething happen last year earlier in the season too I believe and we didn't see him until september. Back surgery isn't like getting your knee scoped. Depending on what they are doing, if the disc is protruding into the spine itself or just a nerve steming out dictates the nature of the surgery. Best case scenario he'll be back by June and then he'll need time to get his legs back.
- JoeRussomanno


Best case senario is he is getting a shot in the spine to kill the pain, and will be back in a week or 2....
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
Best case senario is he is getting a shot in the spine to kill the pain, and will be back in a week or 2....
- RooNosHockey

I don't think a shot in the spine is what they meant when they said surgery.

Edi: I have had those and seriously you aren't supposed to go and play NHL hockey afterwards or the pain is going to come right back.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
DUH! But that wasnt the question....
- RooNosHockey


The question was theoretical...I don't play fantasy sports. I try to deal with reality.
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