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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 12:36 AM ET
Murphy's Law, you'd be seen and caught.
- BulliesPhan87

probably cause i'm not an bumhole like this dude

he literally hit my car and left a black scratch going the whole door like he hit it and said (frank) it and kept hitting my car
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 19 @ 12:40 AM ET
probably cause i'm not an bumhole like this dude

he literally hit my car and left a black scratch going the whole door like he hit it and said (frank) it and kept hitting my car

- 2Real

Whoever it was is a wiener. Like Joe said, I guess you have to trust karma to pay them back.

That is, unless you find a black car with that kind of damage and see the driver getting in. Then you can do your own hit and run, with your fists.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I didn't know that was an autocensored word on this site
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 12:42 AM ET
Whoever it was is a wiener. Like Joe said, I guess you have to trust karma to pay them back.

That is, unless you find a black car with that kind of damage and see the driver getting in. Then you can do your own hit and run, with your fists.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I didn't know that was an autocensored word on this site

- BulliesPhan87

What word?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 19 @ 12:43 AM ET
Whoever it was is a wiener. Like Joe said, I guess you have to trust karma to pay them back.

That is, unless you find a black car with that kind of damage and see the driver getting in. Then you can do your own hit and run, with your fists.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I didn't know that was an autocensored word on this site

- BulliesPhan87



yea i'll just be out 500 bucks cause i think this will cost in the thousands to fix
he didn't just hit 1 door he hit both my driver side doors
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 12:55 AM ET


yea i'll just be out 500 bucks cause i think this will cost in the thousands to fix
he didn't just hit 1 door he hit both my driver side doors

- 2Real

Just bust a few caps into it and you'll look gangster
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:00 AM ET
(frank)ing bullpoop what's to stop me from hitting a bunch of cars and just running away
- 2Real

just do it bro. in the name of justice

my car's been whacked before. it sucks
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 19 @ 7:16 AM ET
just do it bro. in the name of justice

my car's been whacked before. it sucks

- Crimsoninja


bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:32 AM ET
I love how Pens fans whine about Hartnell and how he is a dirty player while completely ignoring the slew foots and head shots by Malkin.
The fact that this guy never gets suspended speaks volumes about the whole disciplinary review process in the NHL.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:36 AM ET
I love how Pens fans whine about Hartnell and how he is a dirty player while completely ignoring the slew foots and head shots by Malkin.
The fact that this guy never gets suspended speaks volumes about the whole disciplinary review process in the NHL.

- bird_dog


That happens with a lot of fanbases. Hartnell does play a gritty game and sometimes he does cross the line in terms of being chippy, but at the same time there's guys like him on every single NHL roster.

In Malkin's case, when he gets angry, he gets nasty and dirty. A few years ago, Paul Mara got under his skin and Malkin slew footed him twice in one shift.

bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 19 @ 8:55 AM ET
That happens with a lot of fanbases. Hartnell does play a gritty game and sometimes he does cross the line in terms of being chippy, but at the same time there's guys like him on every single NHL roster.

In Malkin's case, when he gets angry, he gets nasty and dirty. A few years ago, Paul Mara got under his skin and Malkin slew footed him twice in one shift.

- Jsaquella


Exactly, that is the one weakness Malkin has. Play him hard and in his face he will take dumb penalties. Would I want him on the Flyers? Absolutely.
TBH I was on the ship Hartnell out the first couple weeks of the season. The crow was warm and gamy but I will take it. Hartnell has been way more good than bad this season so I don't mind the occasional over the top antics.
At the beginning of the year somebody would have said Hartnell would be our leading goal scorer at this point in the season I would have thought it was a non playoff year.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 19 @ 9:03 AM ET
Exactly, that is the one weakness Malkin has. Play him hard and in his face he will take dumb penalties. Would I want him on the Flyers? Absolutely.
TBH I was on the ship Hartnell out the first couple weeks of the season. The crow was warm and gamy but I will take it. Hartnell has been way more good than bad this season so I don't mind the occasional over the top antics.
At the beginning of the year somebody would have said Hartnell would be our leading goal scorer at this point in the season I would have thought it was a non playoff year.

- bird_dog

This is still the first incident that comes to mind when I think of Malkin playing dirty
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:12 AM ET
I love how Pens fans whine about Hartnell and how he is a dirty player while completely ignoring the slew foots and head shots by Malkin.
The fact that this guy never gets suspended speaks volumes about the whole disciplinary review process in the NHL.

- bird_dog


There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 19 @ 9:17 AM ET
There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Filonius



Sorry for the inconvenience
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 19 @ 9:22 AM ET
There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Filonius


I don't have a problem with what Kunitz did in the grand scheme of the game. Can Hartnell get nasty and dirty? Sure but he also gets it in return.
As far as Malkin goes, slew footing and elbowing guys in the head isn't playing with an edge, it's dangerous and dirty. See the above video, attempted cross check to the head after a few slashes. Giroux gets targeted and hit as well, I don't see him elbowing guys in the head.
Playing hard and with an edge is fine and expected but not the intent to injure stuff.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
(frank)ing bullpoop what's to stop me from hitting a bunch of cars and just running away
- 2Real

Well, if not your own sense of justice, the possibility there are security cameras and the likelihood that obvious vandalism would cause the police to look into them.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
probably cause i'm not an bumhole like this dude

he literally hit my car and left a black scratch going the whole door like he hit it and said (frank) it and kept hitting my car

- 2Real

You just play one on hockeybuzz?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:36 AM ET
There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Filonius


I love this whole "Hartnell runs around with a shield on and wont drop the gloves" BS... The guy has 51 career NHL fights.. Thats 20 more than Matt Cooke and Chris Kunitz combined.


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 19 @ 9:37 AM ET
There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Filonius


The problem most people have with Malkin isn't that he gets nasty, it's that he often escapes punishment for his actions. Look at the slew foot incident with Mara I spoke of earlier. Malkin got no suspension, and IIRC he didn't even get the token $2500 chump change fine.

I don't care about guys being chippy, whether it's Kunitz or Hartnell or whoever. You need guys like that to win Stanley Cups. Who was the last team to win a title without a chippy little bastard somewhere in their line-up? The problem fans have is when a guy isn't forced to answer for his actions.

I think a lot of the backlash from Flyers fans comes from people complaining about Hartnell. Look back at this thread, there's plenty of hate for Hartnell from yesterday. It boils down to what you said, about the Flyers and the Bully persona. If you want to complain about Hartnell, fine...but don't act like Kunitz, Cooke and Orpik are altar boys.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 19 @ 9:39 AM ET
I love this whole "Hartnell runs around with a shield on and wont drop the gloves" BS... The guy has 51 career NHL fights.. Thats 20 more than Matt Cooke and Chris Kunitz combined.
- jak521

As I've seen it, he gladly removes his helmet before fighting.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
I love this whole "Hartnell runs around with a shield on and wont drop the gloves" BS... The guy has 51 career NHL fights.. Thats 20 more than Matt Cooke and Chris Kunitz combined.
- jak521



Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
There are always players on other teams, particularly rivals that people love to hate. I think people around the league would say Malkin plays with an edge to his game, but isn't dirty...most of the "dirty" comments come out of Philly and NY. That's not coincidental. Teams try hitting Malkin and taking liberties to slow him down or get him off his game...so be it, but don't complain when that nasty streak of his surfaces in return. You guys look at Hartnell like some wacky loveable goofball who goes over the edge sometimes, but most people around the league consider him dirty. Its just the way it is.

There were people here yesterday griping about how dirty Kunitz is when he did what he did to Hartnell, but if the situations were reversed and Hartnell was on the bottom of that scrum, you wouldn't have even blinked. I have no issue with saying what Kunitz did was dirty, but considering he did it to Hartnell, it doesn't bother me in the least. Guys like Hartnell who run around taking liberties but rarely drop the gloves have to pay a price every once in a while in other ways. If Kunitz had done that to Giroux, different story...

The thing that amuses me about many Flyers fans here is your team has built its whole persona around playing with an edge aka "the Broad Street Bullies", yet many of you act so aggrieved when another team does it in return. Sometimes you need to punch the Bully in the nose or grind his face into the ice a little bit.

Aren't rivalries great?

Have a nice day.

- Emperor Filonius

Rarely drops the gloves? Sigh, if you are going to come in here and make claims about why Hartnell deserves to get his ass kicked then at least make them correct.

PS- Speaking of guys playing like (frank)tards and never dropping the gloves, does Malkin have an NHL fight yet?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
The problem most people have with Malkin isn't that he gets nasty, it's that he often escapes punishment for his actions. Look at the slew foot incident with Mara I spoke of earlier. Malkin got no suspension, and IIRC he didn't even get the token $2500 chump change fine.

I don't care about guys being chippy, whether it's Kunitz or Hartnell or whoever. You need guys like that to win Stanley Cups. Who was the last team to win a title without a chippy little bastard somewhere in their line-up?

I think a lot of the backlash from Flyers fans comes from people complaining about Hartnell. Look back at this thread, there's plenty of hate for Hartnell from yesterday. It boils down to what you said, about the Flyers and the Bully persona. If you want to complain about Hartnell, fine...but don't act like Kunitz, Cooke and Orpik are altar boys.

- Jsaquella

The one that stands out the most to me was the fight with Zetterberg in the cup a few years back. With a few seconds left in the game he dropped the gloves and started wailing on Zetterberg who had his gloves on and was being held by another penguin. By the rule book it should have been a instigator in the final minute of a game which would have resulted in a one game suspension IIRC. No call.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 19 @ 9:43 AM ET

- MBFlyerfan

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 19 @ 9:47 AM ET
As I've seen it, he gladly removes his helmet before fighting.
- BulliesPhan87

Not only that.. some of the names.

Phaneuf, Giordano, Brouwer, Gaustad, Winchester, Ruutu, Aulie, Bickell, Avery, Brookbank, Godard, Lappy, Dubinsky, Schenn, Komisarek, Clark...

Its not like he is picking little dudes to fight..
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
The one that stands out the most to me was the fight with Zetterberg in the cup a few years back. With a few seconds left in the game he dropped the gloves and started wailing on Zetterberg who had his gloves on and was being held by another penguin. By the rule book it should have been a instigator in the final minute of a game which would have resulted in a one game suspension IIRC. No call.
- jak521


So does that actually count as a fight for Malkin? In my above post I was curious if he actually has a fight. I mean, seriously, over the course of two days we have had Penguins fans in here calling Flyers fans bandwagoners (Are they mentally handicapped?) and female doging that Hartnell doesn't fight. Seriously?? SERIOUSLY? The team that doesn't fight, doesn't get punished for their actions, and nearly moved to kansas city and they come in to a Philly room, the team with the 4th most fights in the NHL, female doging about players running around and not standing up for their actions. Are they delusional? If you are going to troll, for the love of christ at least have a reasonable argument.
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