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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
Question: Who would you rather have for $51 Million Dollars-- Desean Jackson if you are the Eagles or Bryz if you are the Flyers??

My vote (even before this amazing shutout streak) would be for Universe.

- FlyersFirst


Not sure how anyone can compare the two:

DeSean's only getting $15 million guaranteed and can be cut

Bryz is guaranteed all $51 million spread over 9 seasons
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
I can't Bear to deal with all these Delawareans
- BulliesPhan87


You should be del-aware of them, that is for sure.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'm not a fan of Jackson. He whined and cried about his contract and didn't play as hard as he could have. Bryzgalov struggled, but he also worked hard to correct his issues.
- Jsaquella


I dont mind how Jackson handled the situation. He held out a camp a few days to show he wasnt happy about his contract. He posted huge numbers at WR and won big games for us while making 500k. I cant stand how NFL players always want to renegotiate thier contracts, but I can see Jacksons side... He sat there and watched his fellow team-mates get extension after extension... Players that havent been here as long, and werent as important to the team... If anyone was due a raise... he was... and he didnt get it. He only missed a few days of camp as a quite protest, and didnt make a big deal about it at all...(see TO). He deserves his money. I cant be mad with him...
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
I can't Bear to deal with all these Delawareans
- BulliesPhan87


I was once chatting from some chick from Philly and I told her I live in Delaware... She said... Oh I live right outside Delaware County... I said... "No the State." She said.. "Oh. Where is that?" I ended the converstaion right there...
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:02 AM ET




LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky

bout (frank)ing time you fraud
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
I dont mind how Jackson handled the situation. He held out a camp a few days to show he wasnt happy about his contract. He posted huge numbers at WR and won big games for us while making 500k. I cant stand how NFL players always want to renegotiate thier contracts, but I can see Jacksons side... He sat there and watched his fellow team-mates get extension after extension... Players that havent been here as long, and werent as important to the team... If anyone was due a raise... he was... and he didnt get it. He only missed a few days of camp as a quite protest, and didnt make a big deal about it at all...(see TO). He deserves his money. I cant be mad with him...
- RooNosHockey


What I don't like is how he loafed through the season. To me, all his 5 year deal tells me is that he will play hard for the first 4....maybe.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
I dont mind how Jackson handled the situation. He held out a camp a few days to show he wasnt happy about his contract. He posted huge numbers at WR and won big games for us while making 500k. I cant stand how NFL players always want to renegotiate thier contracts, but I can see Jacksons side... He sat there and watched his fellow team-mates get extension after extension... Players that havent been here as long, and werent as important to the team... If anyone was due a raise... he was... and he didnt get it. He only missed a few days of camp as a quite protest, and didnt make a big deal about it at all...(see TO). He deserves his money. I cant be mad with him...
- RooNosHockey


He took games off and didn't play hard for big chunks of the season. He even admitted as much. I see his side, too, but there's still a need to play hard to justify a renegotiation. You go out and give a half ass effort because you think you're underpaid, you give me no reason to want to renegotiate your deal.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
bout (frank)ing time you fraud
- jak521



sigh.

I know. Stupid work!



RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:09 AM ET
He took games off and didn't play hard for big chunks of the season. He even admitted as much. I see his side, too, but there's still a need to play hard to justify a renegotiation. You go out and give a half ass effort because you think you're underpaid, you give me no reason to want to renegotiate your deal.
- Jsaquella


Yea, maybe he did take some games off, but he was trying to protect himself too. If he got hurt, he wouldnt have been paid. He should have got his contract the same time Vick got his. Then it wouldnt have been a problem.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
I was once chatting from some chick from Philly and I told her I live in Delaware... She said... Oh I live right outside Delaware County... I said... "No the State." She said.. "Oh. Where is that?" I ended the converstaion right there...
- RooNosHockey


Well, if Delco and Delaware are the same I guess Iamdelawarean too
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:14 AM ET

Well, if Delco and Delaware are the same I guess Iamdelawarean too

- BulliesPhan87

poop me too.. where in Delco do you hail?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:15 AM ET

Well, if Delco and Delaware are the same I guess Iamdelawarean too

- BulliesPhan87


Stand tall. Be Proud. You are the County named after the First State in American History. If you cant be the best, might as well be named after the best...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Yea, maybe he did take some games off, but he was trying to protect himself too. If he got hurt, he wouldnt have been paid. He should have got his contract the same time Vick got his. Then it wouldnt have been a problem.
- RooNosHockey


What happens next year, when he realizes that he's only got about $4mm guaranteed? Is he going to alligator arm a pass to avoid being hurt and losing out on his money?

Sorry. You feel underpaid? Then sit out. Don't half ass it on the field.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
poop me too.. where in Delco do you hail?
- jak521

The uniquely named town of Springfield. How's about you?
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
I'm not a fan of Jackson. He whined and cried about his contract and didn't play as hard as he could have. Bryzgalov struggled, but he also worked hard to correct his issues.
- Jsaquella


Agreed there. Bryz is 1000x more likable. I was rooting for him when he was down (not just as a rabid Flyers fan wanting to win, but for him as a player).

DJax is fun (ala comeback mircale game), but certainly not a person that is likable.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
I can't Bear to deal with all these Delawareans
- BulliesPhan87



okay minus 1.

I'm moving to Philly, I'm basically living there now but in the process of selling my home.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
bout (frank)ing time you fraud
- jak521


totally. they dude needs to set his alarm clock before 10:00am
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
okay minus 1.

I'm moving to Philly, I'm basically living there now but in the process of selling my home.

- phi1671


Where, and how much?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
Stand tall. Be Proud. You are the County named after the First State in American History. If you cant be the best, might as well be named after the best...
- RooNosHockey

Now if only I could get your lack of sales tax
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
Agreed there. Bryz is 1000x more likable. I was rooting for him when he was down (not just as a rabid Flyers fan wanting to win, but for him as a player).

DJax is fun (ala comeback mircale game), but certainly not a person that is likable.

- FlyersFirst


Not even a matter of likability. Bryz worked his ass off to correct his play. He wasn't playing poorly because he felt underpaid. Hell, he was probably playing poorly in part to live up to his salary.

Jackson played poorly because he was upset about his contract. I understand that he had concerns about getting hurt and missing his payday. That's why he could have purchased insurance to protect him from injury. Lot of athletes do that sort of thing now. Teams certainly insure contracts.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
The uniquely named town of Springfield. How's about you?
- BulliesPhan87

Grew up in Glenolden and now reside in lovely Wallingford. My family is from 19064. My cousin played lacrosse at Springfield.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
I don't think it was Lavi just starting to emphasize Defense as much as it was the players realizing that now they MUST play defense.
- RooNosHockey

+1
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 15 @ 10:28 AM ET
Not even a matter of likability. Bryz worked his ass off to correct his play. He wasn't playing poorly because he felt underpaid. Hell, he was probably playing poorly in part to live up to his salary.

Jackson played poorly because he was upset about his contract. I understand that he had concerns about getting hurt and missing his payday. That's why he could have purchased insurance to protect him from injury. Lot of athletes do that sort of thing now. Teams certainly insure contracts.

- Jsaquella


Good point. Agreed.
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